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meow meow

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2015, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2015, 02:57:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2015, 02:32:24 PM
Can't tell if you're serious or just taking the absolute piss. I'd hope it's the latter

I didn't mean 4 years each haha. Grundy is signed until the end of 2018, SJ has 2 years left in him. That's 5 ~ 80 seasons from a fwd and defender vs 2 for Mundy at 105 (won't keep it up).

I said Holz gave up JOM > Fyfe > Buddy
                                             > TMac > Libba

and then he said he gave up Mundy too. Pretty sure it was TMac for Libba in your trade so must have been SJ & Grundy for Mundy, which is irrelevant to what I was saying but Holz felt the need to say Mundy + Fyfe for Buddy + Libba, which is actually wrong.

I wasn't actually referring to this (was more so the d!ck waving) but seeing as you're mentioning it you do realize we got Andrew Boston in that deal too right?

Congratulations, you got a player who only gets games when his team is down to 23 fit players on the entire list and who'll be delisted in 2 years time.

Torpedo10

I cried after that Fyfe trade.

elephants

Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 17, 2015, 03:33:52 PM
I cried after that Fyfe trade.

I still cry when I look at what NDT did before we took over :P

Holz

Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2015, 03:14:35 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2015, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2015, 02:57:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2015, 02:32:24 PM
Can't tell if you're serious or just taking the absolute piss. I'd hope it's the latter

I didn't mean 4 years each haha. Grundy is signed until the end of 2018, SJ has 2 years left in him. That's 5 ~ 80 seasons from a fwd and defender vs 2 for Mundy at 105 (won't keep it up).

I said Holz gave up JOM > Fyfe > Buddy
                                             > TMac > Libba

and then he said he gave up Mundy too. Pretty sure it was TMac for Libba in your trade so must have been SJ & Grundy for Mundy, which is irrelevant to what I was saying but Holz felt the need to say Mundy + Fyfe for Buddy + Libba, which is actually wrong.

I wasn't actually referring to this (was more so the d!ck waving) but seeing as you're mentioning it you do realize we got Andrew Boston in that deal too right?

Congratulations, you got a player who only gets games when his team is down to 23 fit players on the entire list and who'll be delisted in 2 years time.

in before Boston > Gibbs

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2015, 03:14:35 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2015, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2015, 02:57:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2015, 02:32:24 PM
Can't tell if you're serious or just taking the absolute piss. I'd hope it's the latter

I didn't mean 4 years each haha. Grundy is signed until the end of 2018, SJ has 2 years left in him. That's 5 ~ 80 seasons from a fwd and defender vs 2 for Mundy at 105 (won't keep it up).

I said Holz gave up JOM > Fyfe > Buddy
                                             > TMac > Libba

and then he said he gave up Mundy too. Pretty sure it was TMac for Libba in your trade so must have been SJ & Grundy for Mundy, which is irrelevant to what I was saying but Holz felt the need to say Mundy + Fyfe for Buddy + Libba, which is actually wrong.

I wasn't actually referring to this (was more so the d!ck waving) but seeing as you're mentioning it you do realize we got Andrew Boston in that deal too right?

Congratulations, you got a player who only gets games when his team is down to 23 fit players on the entire list and who'll be delisted in 2 years time.

We'll see, and tbh who cares? Libba, Mundy, TMac and SJ were the factors in that deal. Grundy and Boston are just fluff.

You can get back to your d!ck waving contest with Holz now  :P


meow meow

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2015, 04:07:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2015, 03:14:35 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2015, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2015, 02:57:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2015, 02:32:24 PM
Can't tell if you're serious or just taking the absolute piss. I'd hope it's the latter

I didn't mean 4 years each haha. Grundy is signed until the end of 2018, SJ has 2 years left in him. That's 5 ~ 80 seasons from a fwd and defender vs 2 for Mundy at 105 (won't keep it up).

I said Holz gave up JOM > Fyfe > Buddy
                                             > TMac > Libba

and then he said he gave up Mundy too. Pretty sure it was TMac for Libba in your trade so must have been SJ & Grundy for Mundy, which is irrelevant to what I was saying but Holz felt the need to say Mundy + Fyfe for Buddy + Libba, which is actually wrong.

I wasn't actually referring to this (was more so the d!ck waving) but seeing as you're mentioning it you do realize we got Andrew Boston in that deal too right?

Congratulations, you got a player who only gets games when his team is down to 23 fit players on the entire list and who'll be delisted in 2 years time.

We'll see, and tbh who cares? Libba, Mundy, TMac and SJ were the factors in that deal. Grundy and Boston are just fluff.

You can get back to your d!ck waving contest with Holz now  :P

Pretty sure I don't care about Boston at all, that's why I didn't mention him. Grundy isn't fluff. He's an 80 ave defender with 3 seasons left. He's probably good enough to be a starter at D4 for Dublin.

What are you talking about? I said Holz is the best trader by a mile so I can't understand why people think they're going to do well when trading with him. It was a question to teams like yours who think you can break even or win trades with him. History suggests otherwise.

Jay

Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2015, 04:52:38 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2015, 04:07:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2015, 03:14:35 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2015, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2015, 02:57:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2015, 02:32:24 PM
Can't tell if you're serious or just taking the absolute piss. I'd hope it's the latter

I didn't mean 4 years each haha. Grundy is signed until the end of 2018, SJ has 2 years left in him. That's 5 ~ 80 seasons from a fwd and defender vs 2 for Mundy at 105 (won't keep it up).

I said Holz gave up JOM > Fyfe > Buddy
                                             > TMac > Libba

and then he said he gave up Mundy too. Pretty sure it was TMac for Libba in your trade so must have been SJ & Grundy for Mundy, which is irrelevant to what I was saying but Holz felt the need to say Mundy + Fyfe for Buddy + Libba, which is actually wrong.

I wasn't actually referring to this (was more so the d!ck waving) but seeing as you're mentioning it you do realize we got Andrew Boston in that deal too right?

Congratulations, you got a player who only gets games when his team is down to 23 fit players on the entire list and who'll be delisted in 2 years time.

We'll see, and tbh who cares? Libba, Mundy, TMac and SJ were the factors in that deal. Grundy and Boston are just fluff.

You can get back to your d!ck waving contest with Holz now  :P

Pretty sure I don't care about Boston at all, that's why I didn't mention him. Grundy isn't fluff. He's an 80 ave defender with 3 seasons left. He's probably good enough to be a starter at D4 for Dublin.

What are you talking about? I said Holz is the best trader by a mile so I can't understand why people think they're going to do well when trading with him. It was a question to teams like yours who think you can break even or win trades with him. History suggests otherwise.
Yeah if you really wanted to have a chance at winning the flag, what you'd do is just not trade with Dublin. Ever. Force them to stick with the list they have and replenish it through the draft (not saying Holz can't do it but he's obviously much more effective in trading).

Instead, you've given the best team in the comp by a mile another young premium to help extend their dominance. Not sure how that helps New York at all really.

Nige

Quote from: Jayman on September 17, 2015, 05:01:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2015, 04:52:38 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2015, 04:07:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2015, 03:14:35 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2015, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2015, 02:57:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2015, 02:32:24 PM
Can't tell if you're serious or just taking the absolute piss. I'd hope it's the latter

I didn't mean 4 years each haha. Grundy is signed until the end of 2018, SJ has 2 years left in him. That's 5 ~ 80 seasons from a fwd and defender vs 2 for Mundy at 105 (won't keep it up).

I said Holz gave up JOM > Fyfe > Buddy
                                             > TMac > Libba

and then he said he gave up Mundy too. Pretty sure it was TMac for Libba in your trade so must have been SJ & Grundy for Mundy, which is irrelevant to what I was saying but Holz felt the need to say Mundy + Fyfe for Buddy + Libba, which is actually wrong.

I wasn't actually referring to this (was more so the d!ck waving) but seeing as you're mentioning it you do realize we got Andrew Boston in that deal too right?

Congratulations, you got a player who only gets games when his team is down to 23 fit players on the entire list and who'll be delisted in 2 years time.

We'll see, and tbh who cares? Libba, Mundy, TMac and SJ were the factors in that deal. Grundy and Boston are just fluff.

You can get back to your d!ck waving contest with Holz now  :P

Pretty sure I don't care about Boston at all, that's why I didn't mention him. Grundy isn't fluff. He's an 80 ave defender with 3 seasons left. He's probably good enough to be a starter at D4 for Dublin.

What are you talking about? I said Holz is the best trader by a mile so I can't understand why people think they're going to do well when trading with him. It was a question to teams like yours who think you can break even or win trades with him. History suggests otherwise.
Yeah if you really wanted to have a chance at winning the flag, what you'd do is just not trade with Dublin. Ever. Force them to stick with the list they have and replenish it through the draft (not saying Holz can't do it but he's obviously much more effective in trading).

Instead, you've given the best team in the comp by a mile another young premium to help extend their dominance. Not sure how that helps New York at all really.

DazBurg

Quote from: Nige on September 17, 2015, 05:05:14 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 17, 2015, 05:01:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2015, 04:52:38 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2015, 04:07:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2015, 03:14:35 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2015, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2015, 02:57:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2015, 02:32:24 PM
Can't tell if you're serious or just taking the absolute piss. I'd hope it's the latter

I didn't mean 4 years each haha. Grundy is signed until the end of 2018, SJ has 2 years left in him. That's 5 ~ 80 seasons from a fwd and defender vs 2 for Mundy at 105 (won't keep it up).

I said Holz gave up JOM > Fyfe > Buddy
                                             > TMac > Libba

and then he said he gave up Mundy too. Pretty sure it was TMac for Libba in your trade so must have been SJ & Grundy for Mundy, which is irrelevant to what I was saying but Holz felt the need to say Mundy + Fyfe for Buddy + Libba, which is actually wrong.

I wasn't actually referring to this (was more so the d!ck waving) but seeing as you're mentioning it you do realize we got Andrew Boston in that deal too right?

Congratulations, you got a player who only gets games when his team is down to 23 fit players on the entire list and who'll be delisted in 2 years time.

We'll see, and tbh who cares? Libba, Mundy, TMac and SJ were the factors in that deal. Grundy and Boston are just fluff.

You can get back to your d!ck waving contest with Holz now  :P

Pretty sure I don't care about Boston at all, that's why I didn't mention him. Grundy isn't fluff. He's an 80 ave defender with 3 seasons left. He's probably good enough to be a starter at D4 for Dublin.

What are you talking about? I said Holz is the best trader by a mile so I can't understand why people think they're going to do well when trading with him. It was a question to teams like yours who think you can break even or win trades with him. History suggests otherwise.
Yeah if you really wanted to have a chance at winning the flag, what you'd do is just not trade with Dublin. Ever. Force them to stick with the list they have and replenish it through the draft (not saying Holz can't do it but he's obviously much more effective in trading).

Instead, you've given the best team in the comp by a mile another young premium to help extend their dominance. Not sure how that helps New York at all really.


yeah but if that is your view as Holz says better stop trading with mexico city what is it 2 flags now and bennell?


Holz

More then happy to show my drafting skills. I havent had many picks but think I have gone alright, since the first two drafts i really havent had any picks so didnt do much research but I went ok in the first two when I had picks.

2011:
J O'Meara (4)
B.Hill (33)

D.Markworth (40)
L.Neale (69)
S.Frost (R16)




2012:
Jesse Hogan (10)
Lachy Plowman (24)
Jed Anderson (30)
Andrew Boston (PSD15)
Matthew Taberner (R1)


plowman and marksworth the only picks you could say didnt pan out. Marksworth been unlucky with his body.

AaronKirk

#1015
Again the comments saying we should not trade to improve our total list are ignorant.

Holz offers us more for our players than anyone else. So we should take lesser offers from lower teams so our list stays mediocre?

If you don't offer big trading chips you do not improve your list.

We were offered peanuts by other teams who expect the world to come their way.

I could not give 2 showers about other teams lists. I only care about making our list better which we clearly have.



DazBurg

Quote from: AaronKirk on September 17, 2015, 05:47:25 PM
Again the comments saying we should not trade to improve our total list are ignorant.

If you don't offer big trading chips you do not improve your list.

I could not give 2 showers about other teams lists. I only care about making our list better which we clearly have.
mate what a load of BS all you have done is take your team and turned it to crap




























































gotcha :P...lol

meow meow

I haven't seen anyone say you shouldn't trade. But making Mexico City and Dublin stronger kind of defeats the purpose of making your own team better.

Wouldn't you not caring what impact your trades have on the rest of the competition make you the ignorant ones?

RaisyDaisy

Nice little bandwagon you've got there meow.

It gets really tiring having to listen to everyone take their cheap shots at us and continually question our trades. Clearly you wouldn't, but I bet if meow did the same trades we did he wouldn't cop the shower we do. It's blatantly personal, not by everyone but by some

As for trading with Holz, I enjoy having discussions with him and we actually both spend a lot of time on here so we're able to go back and forth and with in depth discussions so it's no surprise we eventually come to deals.

Some of you need to seriously move on and stop digging into us. You think we're gifting teams like Dublin and Mexico and it's making it harder for everyone else. Well we went from 14th to 7th in a year and will push the top 4 next year.

As for Libba and Bennell, it's not like they don't have off field issues. Stevie J has a year left in him, probably averaging 80-90 and being rested and it's funny how all of a sudden Grundy is rated when for ages we couldn't give him away and nobody was interested in him. You may have noticed that as soon as we traded him we got in Scott D Thompson to replace him.

Speaking of which we traded out troubled Harley who could be gone for ever in a year or twos time who knows, and added on Duffield who can't even get into the 22 and Whiley who is nothing but a prospect, and got 3 starters in return.

Anyway, none of this is personal, I'm just blowing off a little steam because it's ridiculous how often cheap shots are made at us when our team is only getting stronger and stronger. The whole making Dublin and Mexico stronger argument is ludicrous too. If you want to wait around for 5 years for their players to age then good luck

You gotta spend money to make money



DazBurg

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2015, 06:03:22 PM
Nice little bandwagon you've got there meow.

It gets really tiring having to listen to everyone take their cheap shots at us and continually question our trades. Clearly you wouldn't, but I bet if meow did the same trades we did he wouldn't cop the shower we do. It's blatantly personal, not by everyone but by some

As for trading with Holz, I enjoy having discussions with him and we actually both spend a lot of time on here so we're able to go back and forth and with in depth discussions so it's no surprise we eventually come to deals.

Some of you need to seriously move on and stop digging into us. You think we're gifting teams like Dublin and Mexico and it's making it harder for everyone else. Well we went from 14th to 7th in a year and will push the top 4 next year.

As for Libba and Bennell, it's not like they don't have off field issues. Stevie J has a year left in him, probably averaging 80-90 and being rested and it's funny how all of a sudden Grundy is rated when for ages we couldn't give him away and nobody was interested in him. You may have noticed that as soon as we traded him we got in Scott D Thompson to replace him.

Speaking of which we traded out troubled Harley who could be gone for ever in a year or twos time who knows, and added on Duffield who can't even get into the 22 and Whiley who is nothing but a prospect, and got 3 starters in return.

Anyway, none of this is personal, I'm just blowing off a little steam because it's ridiculous how often cheap shots are made at us when our team is only getting stronger and stronger. The whole making Dublin and Mexico stronger argument is ludicrous too. If you want to wait around for 5 years for their players to age then good luck

You gotta spend money to make money

just pointing out i wasn't having a dig about the bennell part was simply saying how everyone says don't trade with dublin

as holz would of said the exact same thing


btw did i post fool ya or did you catch it before posting?.....come on truth now it got ya huh?..lol