WXV Trade Talk

[Nige]

New York
2   Cloke   Travis
14   Black   Aaron
18   Kommer   Nicholas
20   Siposs   Arryn
23   McKernan   Shaun
24   Crozier   Hayden
28   Hoskin-Elliott   Will
29   McGinnity   Patrick
31   Griffiths   Ben
33   Menzel   Daniel
35   Young   Aaron
36   Elton   Todd
N035   Apeness   Michael

Took the list from 2014 list lodgements and had a bit of a guess as to who their forwards would have been in 2014 (personally can't remember all the positions). I may have cut a few guys who were forwards from the list, but eh, still a decent indication.

Apart from the forward line, it was actually a pretty solid young team (which was what AFEV wanted) and personally, I don't think the list needed to be overhauled just to remedy the forward line, but I guess RD and AK didn't want such a young team and desired more immediate success.

[RaisyDaisy]

No doubt Libba Treloar and Macrae is juicy, but as AK said and Nige confirmed our forward line was flowered and our backs were not great too.

Our team is much more balanced now, so although I wish we still had those kids were actually better off now as a team

Were not the best at much, but I reckon our backine might be. Something to hold our hats on lol.

[Ricochet]

Roberton 95, Picken 100, Dempster 80, Gilbert 80
Mitchell 210, Gibbs 85, Boyd 105, Shuey 95
Sandi 105
Zorko 100, Stringer 80, Elliott 80, Dickson 75
Hartlett 100, Scully 85

1475

Boyd 105, Griff 90, McVeigh 95, Gilbert 80
Mitchell 210, Gibbs 100, Watson 105, Hartlett 100
Sandi 105
Stringer 85, Breust 85, Dickson 75, Reid 75
Montagna 105, Stevens 85

1500

Guessing the gap would be bigger if you added in the 1-2 bench players from each line


I'll need to have a look at NDT. We only averaged 1075 last year  :'(

Rich 85, Howe 80, Wellingham 75, Oxley/Kraks 75
KJack 100, Wallis 100, Conigs 95, Scully 85
Crouch 85, Heeney 80
SMartin 220
Darling 80, Cloke 80, JMartin 80, JCameron 75

1395

Some are a little generous, others could go higher so balances out i guess


Cloke, Jack, SMartin the oldest there at 28



Still a fair way off the top end boys

[Purple 77]

Have talked it over with the relevant teams in this trade:

Trade 75
Toronto trade: Kieran Jack, Andrejs Everitt, Shane Biggs, Alan Toovey, Tendai Mzungu + Pick 31
Toronto receive: Jack Ziebell + Pick 3

New Dehli trade: Jamie Elliott
New Dehli receive: Kieran Jack

Buenos Aires trade: Jack Ziebell + Pick 3
Buenos Aires receive: Jamie Elliott, Andrejs Everitt, Shane Biggs, Alan Toovey, Tendai Mzungu + Pick 31

... that sees Toronto go 1124 points below the minimum cap. Buenos Aires have agreed to send Rhyce Shaw (1130) points to Toronto so there is no cap issues preventing the trade. Seeing as Rhyce Shaw has retired and has absolutely zero value, I don't see a problem with letting this trade pass without it having to go through the process again.

Although I'm not a huge fan of this way to go about jumping through the cap hoops (as this is kinda against what the cap is for), but it's technically not against the rules and it's also almost the end of the trade period anyway, so will just let it slide. If anyone has any major objections, let me know.

[RaisyDaisy]

Fair call about immediate success Nige, but I do think youth is probably the most overrated thing in world's.

Yeah we've got a couple of 29-30 year olds but they provide scoring power, and 2-3 years is a lot of time for youngsters to develop and that's 2-3 more trade periods to stay on top of things too.

Besides Gibson, and to a lesser extent Mundy and Shaw there's no reason why we can't continue to develop our youth and use each trade period to keep things in check

I think getting the right balance and framework in place is very important, and that's what we've done to our best ability

[kilbluff1985]

nobody cares about Seoul

:'(

[upthemaidens]

Def: R Laird, M Hurley, M Suckling, C Hampton  - L Spurr, A Tomlinson, J Kolodjashnij

Mid: A Gaff, T Mitchell, M Barlow, M Bontempelli, C Guthrie, M Rischitelli - S Gibson, L Duggan

Ruck: J Witts, R Stanley

Fwd: S Motlop, D Smith, M Leuenberger(R/F), A Fasolo - B Howlett, M Grigg, M de Boer

..Finals bound, young squad ready to give the big boys a run for their money.  :)

[Purple 77]

nobody cares about Seoul

:'(

Any team that has Hogan, Brayshaw, Pettraccatack or Salem, is a team that I like  ;)

[Nige]

but I do think youth is probably the most overrated thing in world's.

I honestly couldn't agree more. I've always said this myself. I've never agreed with the whole "they won't be in our team when we're challenging for the premiership" notion, but I do understand the logic behind it.

In our case, we've got a fairly young-ish team and don't have too many superstars, but I still think we're a competitive side that is capable of being a top 8 side and was extremely unlucky in how badly we were savaged by injuries this season.

There are surprises every season though and I think that's what makes the comp so fun and exciting.

[T Dog]

As  an unbiased outsider I often wonder why fantasy scoring potential is secondary  8)

[Vinny]

I've got us at about 1420 give or take, having the captain in Pendles obviously helps. Defence and forward line still not up to scratch and depth needs work.

[RaisyDaisy]

I've got us at about 1420 give or take, having the captain in Pendles obviously helps. Defence and forward line still not up to scratch and depth needs work.

And I reckon Dublin would be around the 1600 mark with the ceiling to push 1700+ when things click

Pretty exciting year coming up if most teams are capable of scoring 1350-1550 most weeks. Depth will be tested at stages and upsets will occur. Should be a really good season next year :)

[Hellopplz]

Being conservative got PNL averaging less than 1500. Probably could get another top back, midfielder and a better ruck to help out but too hard :P.

[Memphistopheles]

Although Cape Town has gone through a mini rebuild this season I think we will be very competitive next year.

We won't be making the Top 4 but, watch out in a couple of seasons time...

Def: B Smith, Savage, Geary, T McKenzie (Gwilt)
Mid: JP Kennedy, Prestia, Tyson, S Selwood (Nat 1, Nat 4, Acres)
Ruc: Blicavs (Longer)
Fwd: Hawkins, Bird, Crameri, Broomhead (S Reid)
Uti: L Hunter, N Graham

Then we have a host of young talent who I think are on the very of turning into consistent players or are getting new opportunities this year including: Rohan, Plowman, Jake Kelly, Toumpas, Horlin-Smith, Lang, Nankervis, Honeychurch, Kent, P Wright, B Jack, J Freeman.

At the very least another season should see these guys develop to the point where we can see if they could be best XV material.

And, then we have Picks 11, 22 & 23 as well which we should get good players with.

[DazBurg]

in the last week of trade week
still keen for any trades talks
that is if you dare put up with HP & I :P