A Best 22 for 2016

[silloc]

giles is a good ruckman, dunno why you haven't been playing him.

Because he wasn't competing enough around the ground or play the way we wanted, but he had his best game last week so he'd be a certainty next game

*cough*

giles is good as a ruckman, and can go up forward as well to a reasonable effect. McKernan is going to get slaughtered against Lobbe/ Ryder

and frankly nobody at essendon has been competing enough in general, and the way you're playing your game clearly isn't working, so those are pretty average excuses :P

I'm assuming when your rucks get destroyed again giles will probably be in.

I'm just telling you what the coaches say

*but there is probably more to it than that

[Holz]

giles is a good ruckman, dunno why you haven't been playing him.

Because he wasn't competing enough around the ground or play the way we wanted, but he had his best game last week so he'd be a certainty next game

*cough*

giles is good as a ruckman, and can go up forward as well to a reasonable effect. McKernan is going to get slaughtered against Lobbe/ Ryder

and frankly nobody at essendon has been competing enough in general, and the way you're playing your game clearly isn't working, so those are pretty average excuses :P

I'm assuming when your rucks get destroyed again giles will probably be in.

Its got to the point that shouldn't we look into tanking?

they arguably could have won last week with giles and they will probably lose this week easy. I can't comprehend how they are choosing to go in with no ruck. They might as well drop Mckernan pick up another mid and try and rove the opponent ruck with 4 mids to 3.

[silloc]

that would be an interesting strat, but we kind of try it with Ambrose he "contests" the ruck then just tackles people. He is only 185cm.

[plumdog millionaire]

that would be an interesting strat, but we kind of try it with Ambrose he "contests" the ruck then just tackles people. He is only 185cm.

Hird seems to legitimately think he can pinch hit in the ruck along with Daniher, who gets outmuscled every time

[Big Mac]

Giles has been terrible in the VFL. Hasn't even been winning the hit outs against VFL standard rucks

The last time he was named in the bests before last week was round 6

And in the game prior to last week Giles only had something like 3 effective disposals, 0 marks and lost the hitouts

[LF]

Really doesn't matter it's not working for them now so you would think trying Giles in the ruck isn't going to harm them.
Honestly was a waste of time getting him in as ruck backup if you're not going to use him.

[Nige]

Yeah, you'd think there's no harm at least giving him one game considering the way things are going.

[H1bb3i2d]

O'Brien impressive, looking like building into something. And with Browne getting gametime, it puts some serious pressure on Kav to keep his spot on the list. Demspey played a big role (4 goals) in the VFL comeback from 42 points down. We know how good he can be at his best so I'm sure we'll stick with him.

[silloc]

O'Brien impressive, looking like building into something. And with Browne getting gametime, it puts some serious pressure on Kav to keep his spot on the list. Demspey played a big role (4 goals) in the VFL comeback from 42 points down. We know how good he can be at his best so I'm sure we'll stick with him.

Always rated Obrien, good to see him finally getting a decent go. Improving every week.

[Nige]

Really thought guys like O'Brien, Browne and Laverde were all really good on the weekend, they should be great for you guys in the long term.

[H1bb3i2d]

Can't wait for the 2016 season already, both SC and the Bombers! :P

It's been a terrible season, but I think there's so much room for improvement, I can't see why we couldn't make finals:

Defence - Ariel to develop into a Fletch replacement. An in-form Demspey or a naturally improved Gleeson off the HBF.

Mids - full fit years from the following: Hocking, Myers, Zaharakis, Colyer, Watson. A lot of quality midfield games lost there. A full year from ZMerrett and O'Brien in there too. Oh, and an in-form big man please, Belly!

Forwards - a fit an in form Carlisle who can kick straight. Plus the natural improvement from Daniher who also kicks straight. Edwards a real X-factor. Then just someone who can crumb the big men, and chase, and harrass. A fit Kommer, please.

[silloc]

Can't wait for the 2016 season already, both SC and the Bombers! :P

It's been a terrible season, but I think there's so much room for improvement, I can't see why we couldn't make finals:

Defence - Ariel to develop into a Fletch replacement. An in-form Demspey or a naturally improved Gleeson off the HBF.

Mids - full fit years from the following: Hocking, Myers, Zaharakis, Colyer, Watson. A lot of quality midfield games lost there. A full year from ZMerrett and O'Brien in there too. Oh, and an in-form big man please, Belly!

Forwards - a fit an in form Carlisle who can kick straight. Plus the natural improvement from Daniher who also kicks straight. Edwards a real X-factor. Then just someone who can crumb the big men, and chase, and harrass. A fit Kommer, please.

Carlisle will play down back if hooker keeps his consistency up forward

[silloc]

We need to play pears, he is 25 191cm and a solid 92kg, great disposal and able to play on talls and smalls. But we've also got Steinberg, Aylett, Gwilt, not to mention hooker/hurley/Carlisle. We play pears for the rest of 2015 to get his currency up then put him on the draft table.

[H1bb3i2d]

And when Hooker experiences a quiet patch, "put him back in defence, where he belongs, and put Carlisle back forward!" as people did with Carlisle's quiet patch and Hurley's ability to go back to FF? Hooker has great hands, so does Jake!

Hooker's an AA defender. Sure, he can take plenty of marks, but in defence, he can chip it to Hibberd/Hurley etc to attack. What about when he marks 60m out and doesn't have these outlets that have been closed up closer to goal? He can't hit a target like a Roughy/Riewoldt/Buddy can.

And when he starts getting double teamed? He can outmark 2 forwards going for the ball, but two defenders trying to spoil is a different matter.

He's been great at filling in and providing a marking option, I'm just not sure it's the best long-term.

[silloc]

And when Hooker experiences a quiet patch, "put him back in defence, where he belongs, and put Carlisle back forward!" as people did with Carlisle's quiet patch and Hurley's ability to go back to FF? Hooker has great hands, so does Jake!

Hooker's an AA defender. Sure, he can take plenty of marks, but in defence, he can chip it to Hibberd/Hurley etc to attack. What about when he marks 60m out and doesn't have these outlets that have been closed up closer to goal? He can't hit a target like a Roughy/Riewoldt/Buddy can.

And when he starts getting double teamed? He can outmark 2 forwards going for the ball, but two defenders trying to spoil is a different matter.

He's been great at filling in and providing a marking option, I'm just not sure it's the best long-term.

Problem I find is that these guys have a harder time playing themselves into form in the forward line. Especially when they've had interrupted season/preseasons. I think it's reasonable to play them into form in their natural position then swing them forward.