2015 Ashes Thread

[Kellogscrunchynut]

Marsh again  8)

[PowerBug]

flower me that was out. Really poor decision.

Umpire made a benefit of the doubt to the batsman call. Can't blame him for that. If there was no DRS we would all be saying 50/50 call he makes a decision to favour the batter. DRS and video reviews change things and now we all say "he stuffed it up" because of what the video says which everyone bows down to like gods.


Jim Maxwell: "Cook has 4 Ashes tons but none in England"
Boycott: "until now"

YOU JINXED HIM YOU YORKY flower

Cooks 7th test 90.

[Grazz]

flower me that was out. Really poor decision.

Umpire made a benefit of the doubt to the batsman call. Can't blame him for that. If there was no DRS we would all be saying 50/50 call he makes a decision to favour the batter. DRS and video reviews change things and now we all say "he stuffed it up" because of what the video says which everyone bows down to like gods.


Jim Maxwell: "Cook has 4 Ashes tons but none in England"
Boycott: "until now"

YOU JINXED HIM YOU YORKY flower

Cooks 7th test 90.

Didn't we adopt DRS to get rid of the bad decisions, whats the point of having it if we still follow the umpires decision when it's clearly wrong PB. Wasn't a howler from the ump but none the less it was out. I don't get it may aswell not have it.

[Jay]

flower me that was out. Really poor decision.

Umpire made a benefit of the doubt to the batsman call. Can't blame him for that. If there was no DRS we would all be saying 50/50 call he makes a decision to favour the batter. DRS and video reviews change things and now we all say "he stuffed it up" because of what the video says which everyone bows down to like gods.

It's one of those ones which you can tell should have been give out. Unlike the Smith one in the first innings ::)

[Kellogscrunchynut]

YEESSSS

[Kellogscrunchynut]

Review level Shane Watson.

[Ringo]

flower me that was out. Really poor decision.

Umpire made a benefit of the doubt to the batsman call. Can't blame him for that. If there was no DRS we would all be saying 50/50 call he makes a decision to favour the batter. DRS and video reviews change things and now we all say "he stuffed it up" because of what the video says which everyone bows down to like gods.


Jim Maxwell: "Cook has 4 Ashes tons but none in England"
Boycott: "until now"

YOU JINXED HIM YOU YORKY flower

Cooks 7th test 90.

Didn't we adopt DRS to get rid of the bad decisions, whats the point of having it if we still follow the umpires decision when it's clearly wrong PB. Wasn't a howler from the ump but none the less it was out. I don't get it may aswell not have it.

Still do not know why 50% of the ball or more has to hit the stumps to be out. If it is shown to be hitting the wickets should be out regardless. 

[henry]

flower me that was out. Really poor decision.

Umpire made a benefit of the doubt to the batsman call. Can't blame him for that. If there was no DRS we would all be saying 50/50 call he makes a decision to favour the batter. DRS and video reviews change things and now we all say "he stuffed it up" because of what the video says which everyone bows down to like gods.


Jim Maxwell: "Cook has 4 Ashes tons but none in England"
Boycott: "until now"

YOU JINXED HIM YOU YORKY flower

Cooks 7th test 90.

Didn't we adopt DRS to get rid of the bad decisions, whats the point of having it if we still follow the umpires decision when it's clearly wrong PB. Wasn't a howler from the ump but none the less it was out. I don't get it may aswell not have it.

Still do not know why 50% of the ball or more has to hit the stumps to be out. If it is shown to be hitting the wickets should be out regardless.

Pretty sure its to allow for error in the technology, its an admission that like the umpires it is not perfect. Tbh never a huge fan of the system at all, I really think it should only be used for absolute howlers e.g. Given out lbw when you hit it or not given caught behind when smashed the cover off it. I dont like its strategic use in lbws that might just be clipping leg, happy with the umpires on field to have the final say on that, as  has always been the case till now.

Back to the cricket though, wow. Australia absolutely in control. Marsh has already justified his place imo with 2 crucial wickets, cant remember the last time Watson got 2 wickets. I reckon we bat till a bit after lunch, making another 150 odd then declare, although if we score at a decent rate reckon there's a fair chance we will declare to give the poms a tricky few overs before lunch. Say we score 100 in 20 overs or so giving us a lead of 490 then have 3 or 4 overs to bowl at them before the main break.

[The_Captain]

At the end of the day Drs or no Drs, is was a shower decision from Kumar. Was absolutely plum on watching live and the batsman should of been sent packing for missing that ball.

Kumar has been woeful all serious.... Surely there is someone better to umpire with Erasmus. He's not even great, but Kumar makes him look good

[PowerBug]

Didn't we adopt DRS to get rid of the bad decisions, whats the point of having it if we still follow the umpires decision when it's clearly wrong PB. Wasn't a howler from the ump but none the less it was out. I don't get it may aswell not have it.

Technology said he made a decision that was not entirely incorrect. We adopted DRS to get rid of the howler as mentioned below. He didn't hit and it wasn't hitting the middle of middle so clearly not a howler. A poor decision? Probably, I would say 70/30 in favour of out when watching from the TV cameras. Umpires need to be 100/0 when giving something out though, that hasn't changed since ever.

Still do not know why 50% of the ball or more has to hit the stumps to be out. If it is shown to be hitting the wickets should be out regardless. 

I don't know about this either. Who's to say that the error in DRS meant that the whole ball was going to hit the stumps, as opposed to miss the stumps

It's one of those ones which you can tell should have been give out. Unlike the Smith one in the first innings ::)

From the view of the camera man yes. Until the umpires put cameras on their heads we can't say for sure.

Pretty sure its to allow for error in the technology, its an admission that like the umpires it is not perfect. Tbh never a huge fan of the system at all, I really think it should only be used for absolute howlers e.g. Given out lbw when you hit it or not given caught behind when smashed the cover off it. I dont like its strategic use in lbws that might just be clipping leg, happy with the umpires on field to have the final say on that, as  has always been the case till now.

People seem to forget this but the current system allows for the loophole that the teams use which is where the debates come about.

At the end of the day Drs or no Drs, is was a shower decision from Kumar. Was absolutely plum on watching live and the batsman should of been sent packing for missing that ball.

Kumar has been woeful all serious.... Surely there is someone better to umpire with Erasmus. He's not even great, but Kumar makes him look good

These guys have been umpiring for a long time, they know what they are doing (Most of the time :P). Are we dropping Michael Clarke because he made two mistakes and he is a captain so he should be perfect all the time? No, didn't think so. DRS is just highlighting these "errors". Watching it live I also thought that was closer to out than not out, but umpires are told to give the benefit of the doubt to the batsman, and umpires will always umpire this way. Dharmesena obviously thought there was enough doubt to not give it out, and well the technology (and the way it is currently implemented) says he was correct.


In closing, the system needs to change, and I agree with India in not wanting to use it because I am starting to think they are correct in saying that the LBW system has too many flaws.

[Kellogscrunchynut]

I reckon if the pitch and impact are in line and it hits the stumps it should be out, if they aren't in line then umpires call.

[Grazz]

I agree with pretty much everything you said there PB but that was out everyday of the week and if umpires aren't going to give them out then bowlers may aswell give up, wasn't a howler but was a very poor decision.

[Bill Manspeaker]

Rogers looks extremely wobbly atm. no idea why  :-\

looks to be a result of being hit on the helmet earlier in the test

hope he's okay

[TomK]

shower, hope he's all good

[Ringo]

Does not look good at all - No idea what brought it on.