2015-2016 NBA Draft Game

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RiOtChEsS

Kyrie
Irving (knee) will be brought back slowly from a fractured kneecap suffered during the Eastern Conference Finals, and he could remain out until January, Cleveland.com reports.

Korver coming off Ankle and Elbow (shooting arm) surgeries, things that could affect his efficiency and production

Like the Thompson pick if he gets out of Cleveland, if not he wont see 30 minutes a games behind Love

Dirk
After averaging 37.7 minutes per game during the ’08-09 season, Nowitzki saw his playing time steadily take a dip seeing his minutes cut under 30 for the first time since his rookie season last year, Nowitzki may again have his time on the court shortened in order to preserve the 7-footer throughout the course of the grueling 82-game schedule.

Rose has only played 100 games in 4 seasons, huge injury concern...

Great Team on paper though


Holz

Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 24, 2015, 12:48:32 PM
Kyrie
Irving (knee) will be brought back slowly from a fractured kneecap suffered during the Eastern Conference Finals, and he could remain out until January, Cleveland.com reports.

Korver coming off Ankle and Elbow (shooting arm) surgeries, things that could affect his efficiency and production

Like the Thompson pick if he gets out of Cleveland, if not he wont see 30 minutes a games behind Love

Dirk
After averaging 37.7 minutes per game during the ’08-09 season, Nowitzki saw his playing time steadily take a dip seeing his minutes cut under 30 for the first time since his rookie season last year, Nowitzki may again have his time on the court shortened in order to preserve the 7-footer throughout the course of the grueling 82-game schedule.

Rose has only played 100 games in 4 seasons, huge injury concern...

Great Team on paper though

yeah certainly injury risks

Rose Irving Korver can all rotate around the one spot. Leonard and james are work horses and can stay out there most of the game.


with the thompson thing its about what we think he can do in this team not cleveland he wont get more thaen 30 minutes in this lineup either though.


jvalles69

Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 24, 2015, 11:57:41 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 24, 2015, 01:19:57 AM
Have you guys actually thought about this line up though?

PG: Lillard/Bledsoe
SG: Matthews/Oladipo
SF: Durant/Gay
PF: Millsap/Favors
C: Jordan/Whiteside

Scoring AND defence on the 1st team and the 2nd team! Durant will be unstoppable this year!  8)

1 injury though to any team and it's downhill.
its a great team on paper

things i noticed in research pertaining to two of your players:

Matthews
Matthews (Achilles) will not be available at the start of training camp, ESPN Dallas reports.
Spin: Matthews is making his way back from a torn Achilles suffered in March of last season. He will be brought along gradually to insure he's 100 percent when he resumes playing
achilles are usually a 12 month injury also rumors that Dallas will tank this season scared me off him and Chandler Parsons

Whiteside
Whiteside's workload may not increase much from the 2014-15 season, when he logged 24 minutes per game, the Miami Herald reports. "You might see his minutes jump up when we're playing Andre Drummond or DeAndre Jordan. But if we're playing a team that likes to play small ball, you'll probably see his minutes around 20 or 25," said Heat assistant coach Dan Craig.
This guy could be a monster but as you know being a fantasy guy, 30 minutes per game at least is what is needed

If you believe Cuban will let his team tank you're dreaming!  Matthews is a risk coming off hat horrific injury, but the guy has such a high level of determination I don't doubt his ability to come back to 100% even though history suggests otherwise...although we all know how Dominic Wilkins came back after an achilles injury!  ;)  A bit risky for fantasy, but here I'll take it, might even turn into a stop and pop player this season.

Whiteside only needs 20mins to put up a double double.

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: Holz on September 24, 2015, 01:15:26 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 24, 2015, 12:48:32 PM
Kyrie
Irving (knee) will be brought back slowly from a fractured kneecap suffered during the Eastern Conference Finals, and he could remain out until January, Cleveland.com reports.

Korver coming off Ankle and Elbow (shooting arm) surgeries, things that could affect his efficiency and production

Like the Thompson pick if he gets out of Cleveland, if not he wont see 30 minutes a games behind Love

Dirk
After averaging 37.7 minutes per game during the ’08-09 season, Nowitzki saw his playing time steadily take a dip seeing his minutes cut under 30 for the first time since his rookie season last year, Nowitzki may again have his time on the court shortened in order to preserve the 7-footer throughout the course of the grueling 82-game schedule.

Rose has only played 100 games in 4 seasons, huge injury concern...

Great Team on paper though

yeah certainly injury risks

Rose Irving Korver can all rotate around the one spot. Leonard and james are work horses and can stay out there most of the game.


with the thompson thing its about what we think he can do in this team not cleveland he wont get more thaen 30 minutes in this lineup either though.
wont he be getting the exact production he produces in this coming NBA season ???

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: jvalles69 on September 24, 2015, 01:22:52 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 24, 2015, 11:57:41 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 24, 2015, 01:19:57 AM
Have you guys actually thought about this line up though?

PG: Lillard/Bledsoe
SG: Matthews/Oladipo
SF: Durant/Gay
PF: Millsap/Favors
C: Jordan/Whiteside

Scoring AND defence on the 1st team and the 2nd team! Durant will be unstoppable this year!  8)

1 injury though to any team and it's downhill.
its a great team on paper

things i noticed in research pertaining to two of your players:

Matthews
Matthews (Achilles) will not be available at the start of training camp, ESPN Dallas reports.
Spin: Matthews is making his way back from a torn Achilles suffered in March of last season. He will be brought along gradually to insure he's 100 percent when he resumes playing
achilles are usually a 12 month injury also rumors that Dallas will tank this season scared me off him and Chandler Parsons

Whiteside
Whiteside's workload may not increase much from the 2014-15 season, when he logged 24 minutes per game, the Miami Herald reports. "You might see his minutes jump up when we're playing Andre Drummond or DeAndre Jordan. But if we're playing a team that likes to play small ball, you'll probably see his minutes around 20 or 25," said Heat assistant coach Dan Craig.
This guy could be a monster but as you know being a fantasy guy, 30 minutes per game at least is what is needed

If you believe Cuban will let his team tank you're dreaming!  Matthews is a risk coming off hat horrific injury, but the guy has such a high level of determination I don't doubt his ability to come back to 100% even though history suggests otherwise...although we all know how Dominic Wilkins came back after an achilles injury!  ;)  A bit risky for fantasy, but here I'll take it, might even turn into a stop and pop player this season.

Whiteside only needs 20mins to put up a double double.
yeah im not saying it will work out that way, just the reasons i was concerned about picking them

Holz

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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 24, 2015, 02:06:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 24, 2015, 01:15:26 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 24, 2015, 12:48:32 PM
Kyrie
Irving (knee) will be brought back slowly from a fractured kneecap suffered during the Eastern Conference Finals, and he could remain out until January, Cleveland.com reports.

Korver coming off Ankle and Elbow (shooting arm) surgeries, things that could affect his efficiency and production

Like the Thompson pick if he gets out of Cleveland, if not he wont see 30 minutes a games behind Love

Dirk
After averaging 37.7 minutes per game during the ’08-09 season, Nowitzki saw his playing time steadily take a dip seeing his minutes cut under 30 for the first time since his rookie season last year, Nowitzki may again have his time on the court shortened in order to preserve the 7-footer throughout the course of the grueling 82-game schedule.

Rose has only played 100 games in 4 seasons, huge injury concern...

Great Team on paper though

yeah certainly injury risks

Rose Irving Korver can all rotate around the one spot. Leonard and james are work horses and can stay out there most of the game.


with the thompson thing its about what we think he can do in this team not cleveland he wont get more thaen 30 minutes in this lineup either though.
wont he be getting the exact production he produces in this coming NBA season ???

no its not about their actual production its about there perceived production.

if west brook Anthony harden all average 30. You don't bring those 3 together and have a team scoring 90. We are using the season to give us a better idea about players. If thompson only plays 15 minutes a game but people see how good he is we project how that would translate to my team.

not getting minutes just means he has less chance to show his worth. His situation in Cleveland is irrelevant except for showing what he can do. he plays for holz not cleveland in this game.


all this is your classical pick your greatest team and see how they would play. its just like picking Bill Russell, Michael Jordan, Lebron james in the same team.

the difference is we are saying at the end of the 2015/16 pick a team and see who would win. The difference is we are picking a year early so projecting who will be the best in a year.


jvalles69

The most important news...

QuoteKevin Durant (foot) has been fully cleared to participate in training camp.
Durant has been playing without restrictions and competing in 5-on-5 work, so he's right on track for a full bounce-back season after spending a majority of the 2014-15 season on the sidelines. Foot injuries can be tricky, but bone graft procedures have a very high success rate, so we're confident that Durant can put together a healthy season. Presti did mention that Durant isn't likely to play in all of OKC's preseason games, and stated that his minute allotment will be decided by head coach Billy Donovan and the Thunder's medical staff, but we don't see his minutes taking a major hit as OKC needs him on the floor to win games. He does carry some risk, but given his enormous upside, he shouldn't fall past the No. 6 overall selection on draft day.

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: Holz on September 24, 2015, 02:15:22 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 24, 2015, 02:06:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 24, 2015, 01:15:26 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 24, 2015, 12:48:32 PM
Kyrie
Irving (knee) will be brought back slowly from a fractured kneecap suffered during the Eastern Conference Finals, and he could remain out until January, Cleveland.com reports.

Korver coming off Ankle and Elbow (shooting arm) surgeries, things that could affect his efficiency and production

Like the Thompson pick if he gets out of Cleveland, if not he wont see 30 minutes a games behind Love

Dirk
After averaging 37.7 minutes per game during the ’08-09 season, Nowitzki saw his playing time steadily take a dip seeing his minutes cut under 30 for the first time since his rookie season last year, Nowitzki may again have his time on the court shortened in order to preserve the 7-footer throughout the course of the grueling 82-game schedule.

Rose has only played 100 games in 4 seasons, huge injury concern...

Great Team on paper though

yeah certainly injury risks

Rose Irving Korver can all rotate around the one spot. Leonard and james are work horses and can stay out there most of the game.


with the thompson thing its about what we think he can do in this team not cleveland he wont get more thaen 30 minutes in this lineup either though.
wont he be getting the exact production he produces in this coming NBA season ???

no its not about their actual production its about there perceived production.

if west brook Anthony harden all average 30. You don't bring those 3 together and have a team scoring 90. We are using the season to give us a better idea about players. If thompson only plays 15 minutes a game but people see how good he is we project how that would translate to my team.

not getting minutes just means he has less chance to show his worth. His situation in Cleveland is irrelevant except for showing what he can do. he plays for holz not cleveland in this game.


all this is your classical pick your greatest team and see how they would play. its just like picking Bill Russell, Michael Jordan, Lebron james in the same team.

the difference is we are saying at the end of the 2015/16 pick a team and see who would win. The difference is we are picking a year early so projecting who will be the best in a year.
not trying sound disrespectful, we already know what they all can do, so what does this season have to do with anything?

RiOtChEsS

imo u needed to clearly outline the criteria of the draft
if the seasons production doesnt matter then neither does the season
can you explain what Kyrie's value is to your team even though he is out for half of the season with a fractured knee cap?

Holz

Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 24, 2015, 04:16:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 24, 2015, 02:15:22 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 24, 2015, 02:06:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 24, 2015, 01:15:26 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 24, 2015, 12:48:32 PM
Kyrie
Irving (knee) will be brought back slowly from a fractured kneecap suffered during the Eastern Conference Finals, and he could remain out until January, Cleveland.com reports.

Korver coming off Ankle and Elbow (shooting arm) surgeries, things that could affect his efficiency and production

Like the Thompson pick if he gets out of Cleveland, if not he wont see 30 minutes a games behind Love

Dirk
After averaging 37.7 minutes per game during the ’08-09 season, Nowitzki saw his playing time steadily take a dip seeing his minutes cut under 30 for the first time since his rookie season last year, Nowitzki may again have his time on the court shortened in order to preserve the 7-footer throughout the course of the grueling 82-game schedule.

Rose has only played 100 games in 4 seasons, huge injury concern...

Great Team on paper though

yeah certainly injury risks

Rose Irving Korver can all rotate around the one spot. Leonard and james are work horses and can stay out there most of the game.


with the thompson thing its about what we think he can do in this team not cleveland he wont get more thaen 30 minutes in this lineup either though.
wont he be getting the exact production he produces in this coming NBA season ???

no its not about their actual production its about there perceived production.

if west brook Anthony harden all average 30. You don't bring those 3 together and have a team scoring 90. We are using the season to give us a better idea about players. If thompson only plays 15 minutes a game but people see how good he is we project how that would translate to my team.

not getting minutes just means he has less chance to show his worth. His situation in Cleveland is irrelevant except for showing what he can do. he plays for holz not cleveland in this game.


all this is your classical pick your greatest team and see how they would play. its just like picking Bill Russell, Michael Jordan, Lebron james in the same team.

the difference is we are saying at the end of the 2015/16 pick a team and see who would win. The difference is we are picking a year early so projecting who will be the best in a year.
not trying sound disrespectful, we already know what they all can do, so what does this season have to do with anything?

do we though.

if you look who would have been taken last year, i think there would be some big differences.

i doubt Steph Curry would have gone before chris paul.
Kobe wouldnt have lasted to 50
Rudy Gobert would not have been picked probably.
no way Butler goes before Carmello Anthony.

there will be breakouts and guys who fall away.

Dwight howard sucked this year, who knows if he comes back health wins the DPOY or sits the year out. Does Andrew Wiggins turn into a legit superstar and not just a super rookie. Will Kobe stay healthy and once again be a top 15 player. Which Rondo shows up.

we will all know by the end of the season but not now.

Holz

Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 24, 2015, 04:20:59 PM
imo u needed to clearly outline the criteria of the draft
if the seasons production doesnt matter then neither does the season
can you explain what Kyrie's value is to your team even though he is out for half of the season with a fractured knee cap?

If he is out for half the year then his vale to my team is the second half of the season i will have a irving and for the playoffs. Whether he comes back 100% or not who knows.  The season matters alot. But its not TT only played 15 minutes a game that means he can only play 15 for mine. It just means he cant show his game as much. If irving misses half the year with injury then he misses half the year with my team.


RiOtChEsS

Quote from: Holz on September 24, 2015, 04:29:48 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 24, 2015, 04:20:59 PM
imo u needed to clearly outline the criteria of the draft
if the seasons production doesnt matter then neither does the season
can you explain what Kyrie's value is to your team even though he is out for half of the season with a fractured knee cap?

If he is out for half the year then his vale to my team is the second half of the season i will have a irving and for the playoffs. Whether he comes back 100% or not who knows.  The season matters alot. But its not TT only played 15 minutes a game that means he can only play 15 for mine. It just means he cant show his game as much. If irving misses half the year with injury then he misses half the year with my team.
really dont understand the point ur making about TT :-[

how many teams make the playoffs?


Quote from: Holz on September 24, 2015, 04:27:46 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 24, 2015, 04:16:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 24, 2015, 02:15:22 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 24, 2015, 02:06:07 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 24, 2015, 01:15:26 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 24, 2015, 12:48:32 PM
Kyrie
Irving (knee) will be brought back slowly from a fractured kneecap suffered during the Eastern Conference Finals, and he could remain out until January, Cleveland.com reports.

Korver coming off Ankle and Elbow (shooting arm) surgeries, things that could affect his efficiency and production

Like the Thompson pick if he gets out of Cleveland, if not he wont see 30 minutes a games behind Love

Dirk
After averaging 37.7 minutes per game during the ’08-09 season, Nowitzki saw his playing time steadily take a dip seeing his minutes cut under 30 for the first time since his rookie season last year, Nowitzki may again have his time on the court shortened in order to preserve the 7-footer throughout the course of the grueling 82-game schedule.

Rose has only played 100 games in 4 seasons, huge injury concern...

Great Team on paper though

yeah certainly injury risks

Rose Irving Korver can all rotate around the one spot. Leonard and james are work horses and can stay out there most of the game.


with the thompson thing its about what we think he can do in this team not cleveland he wont get more thaen 30 minutes in this lineup either though.
wont he be getting the exact production he produces in this coming NBA season ???

no its not about their actual production its about there perceived production.

if west brook Anthony harden all average 30. You don't bring those 3 together and have a team scoring 90. We are using the season to give us a better idea about players. If thompson only plays 15 minutes a game but people see how good he is we project how that would translate to my team.

not getting minutes just means he has less chance to show his worth. His situation in Cleveland is irrelevant except for showing what he can do. he plays for holz not cleveland in this game.


all this is your classical pick your greatest team and see how they would play. its just like picking Bill Russell, Michael Jordan, Lebron james in the same team.

the difference is we are saying at the end of the 2015/16 pick a team and see who would win. The difference is we are picking a year early so projecting who will be the best in a year.
not trying sound disrespectful, we already know what they all can do, so what does this season have to do with anything?

do we though.

if you look who would have been taken last year, i think there would be some big differences.

i doubt Steph Curry would have gone before chris paul.
Kobe wouldnt have lasted to 50
Rudy Gobert would not have been picked probably.
no way Butler goes before Carmello Anthony.

there will be breakouts and guys who fall away.

Dwight howard sucked this year, who knows if he comes back health wins the DPOY or sits the year out. Does Andrew Wiggins turn into a legit superstar and not just a super rookie. Will Kobe stay healthy and once again be a top 15 player. Which Rondo shows up.

we will all know by the end of the season but not now.
so production matters, how can it not?

it doesnt really matter as far as my team went i would have drafted the same way but in my opinion you really dropped the ball on explaining the criteria of the draft.

jvalles69

This should only be relating to regular season not including finals because half the teams don't play, if I knew this I prob would have drafted players from teams who I thought would make finals...I think it should be left at regualr season...

Holz

Quote from: jvalles69 on September 24, 2015, 04:59:37 PM
This should only be relating to regular season not including finals because half the teams don't play, if I knew this I prob would have drafted players from teams who I thought would make finals...I think it should be left at regualr season...

its got nothing to do with finals. its merely see how these players going through the year. their performance in the 15/16 season shows their value.

the TT example was whetehr he stays at cleveland and plays 10 minutes or goes to another team and plays 35 minutes isnt that big an issue its only his perceived value from this. he could play 10 minutes for the cavs and if i choose to play him for 40 minutes in my team he can do that granted i think he has shown enough in 10 minutes.

if dirk can only manage 15 minutes a game because of his health and i choose to play him as a starter in my team he will obviously break down. 

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: Holz on September 24, 2015, 05:21:41 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 24, 2015, 04:59:37 PM
This should only be relating to regular season not including finals because half the teams don't play, if I knew this I prob would have drafted players from teams who I thought would make finals...I think it should be left at regualr season...

its got nothing to do with finals. its merely see how these players going through the year. their performance in the 15/16 season shows their value.

the TT example was whetehr he stays at cleveland and plays 10 minutes or goes to another team and plays 35 minutes isnt that big an issue its only his perceived value from this. he could play 10 minutes for the cavs and if i choose to play him for 40 minutes in my team he can do that granted i think he has shown enough in 10 minutes.

if dirk can only manage 15 minutes a game because of his health and i choose to play him as a starter in my team he will obviously break down.
and if Kyrie only plays 1 game but chucks up 40 what is his value?