2015-2016 NBA Draft Game

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Holz

Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 22, 2015, 04:06:59 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 22, 2015, 03:42:34 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 22, 2015, 01:39:49 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 22, 2015, 12:07:29 PM
My rankings using 9 categories including pts, 3’s, rebs, ass, stls, blks, fg%, ft% and TO’s.  Players get a per game value of all their strengths and weaknesses as well as projecting their output for the regular season.  So for example a player with a positive score in a category can be balanced out with a player who has a negative value in the same category. Let’s get started.

1. Riot â€" Team value = 2.93

Riot somehow managed to pick up 3 possible projected 1st rounders in Harden, Westbrook and Anthony.  Has a good mi of age and youth, and no real injur prone guys unless you include Melo.  Statistically Riot is positive in 8/9 categories, with TO’s very high due to high usage guys in that 1st round.  The #1 scoring team too, but I think the fg% category will be one to dip into the negative.


I have major issues however with team structure. Harden Westbrook and Anthony will all want the ball. When they are on different teams they will all put up points in bunches. When they are on the same team they wont.

thats the only problem with that analysis.

on my team I have more defined roles. Lebron is a facilitator with Irving being ther for pur scoring power. Kawai is used to sharing a load and my big men in Ibaka and Howard dont need the ball that much.
problem with that analogy is ur assuming they cant play different roles on a different team, Olympics?

very true but unlike the Olympics their opposition is actually decent and its not the harlem globetrotters v the generals.

it could work but Melo Westbrook Harden over a 82 season would be very very interesting. not saying it wouldnt work but Westbrook Durrant is a big enough fight.


RiOtChEsS

tbh i dont get the primary objective of the draft yet, if its balance i can start Ariza, 7'2 wingspan, elite steals, spot up 3pt shooter gives me Gobert and Ariza who dont need the ball in their hands with solid D, Bosh spreads the floor at the 4 allowing the beard and beastbrook space to do work, both averaged 10 free throws attempted per game last season, 1 and 2 in the league they combine for 85% made, that threat creates open shots. That would allow me to bring an insane scorer like Melo off the bench

PG: Russell Westbrook/Jeff Teague
SG: James Harden/Isaiah Thomas
SF:Trevor Ariza /Carmelo Anthony
PF: Chris Bosh/Pau Gasol
C: Rudy Gobert/Nikola Vucevic


if its production i leave it with Melo starting, could even put Vucevic in the starting lineup then for more production 20/10 guy

u can see in some of the lineups we arent certain of the criteria, Jayman is rolling with 4 legit C's no PF's, balance or production?

Jay

The primary objective is to win the 2015-2016 NBA championship I believe, whether that's through loading up on stars, or a team balance.

I think as the season goes along, we'll be able to see pretty clearly which teams are the best.

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: Jayman on September 23, 2015, 03:01:39 PM
The primary objective is to win the 2015-2016 NBA championship I believe, whether that's through loading up on stars, or a team balance.

I think as the season goes along, we'll be able to see pretty clearly which teams are the best.
haha yeah of course its to win, how? balance or production... you lent towards production as did i

Jay

Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 23, 2015, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 23, 2015, 03:01:39 PM
The primary objective is to win the 2015-2016 NBA championship I believe, whether that's through loading up on stars, or a team balance.

I think as the season goes along, we'll be able to see pretty clearly which teams are the best.
haha yeah of course its to win, how? balance or production... you lent towards production as did i
By having a better team than everyone else ;) If I was all about production I wouldn't have picked Danny Green.. Gotta have some balance :D

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: Jayman on September 23, 2015, 05:38:21 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 23, 2015, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 23, 2015, 03:01:39 PM
The primary objective is to win the 2015-2016 NBA championship I believe, whether that's through loading up on stars, or a team balance.

I think as the season goes along, we'll be able to see pretty clearly which teams are the best.
haha yeah of course its to win, how? balance or production... you lent towards production as did i
By having a better team than everyone else ;) If I was all about production I wouldn't have picked Danny Green.. Gotta have some balance :D
to balance out 4 C's :P

Holz

Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 23, 2015, 08:21:10 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 23, 2015, 05:38:21 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 23, 2015, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 23, 2015, 03:01:39 PM
The primary objective is to win the 2015-2016 NBA championship I believe, whether that's through loading up on stars, or a team balance.

I think as the season goes along, we'll be able to see pretty clearly which teams are the best.
haha yeah of course its to win, how? balance or production... you lent towards production as did i
By having a better team than everyone else ;) If I was all about production I wouldn't have picked Danny Green.. Gotta have some balance :D
to balance out 4 C's :P

I reckon Davis is a PF.

I have gone unsual and have 3 PF and 2 Cs

with Howard an injury risk going with 5 big men so they can rotate and i can play small with TT Dirk at C.

jvalles69

Quote from: Holz on September 23, 2015, 09:52:58 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 23, 2015, 08:21:10 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 23, 2015, 05:38:21 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 23, 2015, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 23, 2015, 03:01:39 PM
The primary objective is to win the 2015-2016 NBA championship I believe, whether that's through loading up on stars, or a team balance.

I think as the season goes along, we'll be able to see pretty clearly which teams are the best.
haha yeah of course its to win, how? balance or production... you lent towards production as did i
By having a better team than everyone else ;) If I was all about production I wouldn't have picked Danny Green.. Gotta have some balance :D
to balance out 4 C's :P

I reckon Davis is a PF.

I have gone unsual and have 3 PF and 2 Cs

with Howard an injury risk going with 5 big men so they can rotate and i can play small with TT Dirk at C.

Davis is 100% a PF...Ajinca plays beside him.

My Chumps

Quote from: jvalles69 on September 23, 2015, 10:48:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 23, 2015, 09:52:58 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 23, 2015, 08:21:10 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 23, 2015, 05:38:21 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 23, 2015, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 23, 2015, 03:01:39 PM
The primary objective is to win the 2015-2016 NBA championship I believe, whether that's through loading up on stars, or a team balance.

I think as the season goes along, we'll be able to see pretty clearly which teams are the best.
haha yeah of course its to win, how? balance or production... you lent towards production as did i
By having a better team than everyone else ;) If I was all about production I wouldn't have picked Danny Green.. Gotta have some balance :D
to balance out 4 C's :P

I reckon Davis is a PF.

I have gone unsual and have 3 PF and 2 Cs

with Howard an injury risk going with 5 big men so they can rotate and i can play small with TT Dirk at C.

Davis is 100% a PF...Ajinca plays beside him.
/Omar Asik

Learning a pretty dope mid-range game, he's definitely a PF, especially as he works on his light frame.

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: jvalles69 on September 23, 2015, 10:48:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 23, 2015, 09:52:58 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 23, 2015, 08:21:10 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 23, 2015, 05:38:21 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 23, 2015, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 23, 2015, 03:01:39 PM
The primary objective is to win the 2015-2016 NBA championship I believe, whether that's through loading up on stars, or a team balance.

I think as the season goes along, we'll be able to see pretty clearly which teams are the best.
haha yeah of course its to win, how? balance or production... you lent towards production as did i
By having a better team than everyone else ;) If I was all about production I wouldn't have picked Danny Green.. Gotta have some balance :D
to balance out 4 C's :P

I reckon Davis is a PF.

I have gone unsual and have 3 PF and 2 Cs

with Howard an injury risk going with 5 big men so they can rotate and i can play small with TT Dirk at C.

Davis is 100% a PF...Ajinca plays beside him.
im stirring shower, Holz said "I have major issues however with team structure" im pointing out imbalance in Jays hence the :P

it doesnt really matter as i cant lose production from a player that is coming off my bench but will start in the real NBA season

Il start my balanced lineup
PG: Russell Westbrook/Jeff Teague
SG: James Harden/Isaiah Thomas
SF:Trevor Ariza /Carmelo Anthony
PF: Chris Bosh/Pau Gasol
C: Rudy Gobert/Nikola Vucevic

Holz

Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 23, 2015, 11:27:32 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 23, 2015, 10:48:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 23, 2015, 09:52:58 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 23, 2015, 08:21:10 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 23, 2015, 05:38:21 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 23, 2015, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 23, 2015, 03:01:39 PM
The primary objective is to win the 2015-2016 NBA championship I believe, whether that's through loading up on stars, or a team balance.

I think as the season goes along, we'll be able to see pretty clearly which teams are the best.
haha yeah of course its to win, how? balance or production... you lent towards production as did i
By having a better team than everyone else ;) If I was all about production I wouldn't have picked Danny Green.. Gotta have some balance :D
to balance out 4 C's :P

I reckon Davis is a PF.

I have gone unsual and have 3 PF and 2 Cs

with Howard an injury risk going with 5 big men so they can rotate and i can play small with TT Dirk at C.

Davis is 100% a PF...Ajinca plays beside him.
im stirring shower, Holz said "I have major issues however with team structure" im pointing out imbalance in Jays hence the :P

it doesnt really matter as i cant lose production from a player that is coming off my bench but will start in the real NBA season

Il start my balanced lineup
PG: Russell Westbrook/Jeff Teague
SG: James Harden/Isaiah Thomas
SF:Trevor Ariza /Carmelo Anthony
PF: Chris Bosh/Pau Gasol
C: Rudy Gobert/Nikola Vucevic


ok lets just agree that both teams are flawed and would get stomped by my line up.


RiOtChEsS

Quote from: Holz on September 24, 2015, 12:21:11 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 23, 2015, 11:27:32 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 23, 2015, 10:48:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 23, 2015, 09:52:58 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 23, 2015, 08:21:10 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 23, 2015, 05:38:21 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 23, 2015, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 23, 2015, 03:01:39 PM
The primary objective is to win the 2015-2016 NBA championship I believe, whether that's through loading up on stars, or a team balance.

I think as the season goes along, we'll be able to see pretty clearly which teams are the best.
haha yeah of course its to win, how? balance or production... you lent towards production as did i
By having a better team than everyone else ;) If I was all about production I wouldn't have picked Danny Green.. Gotta have some balance :D
to balance out 4 C's :P

I reckon Davis is a PF.

I have gone unsual and have 3 PF and 2 Cs

with Howard an injury risk going with 5 big men so they can rotate and i can play small with TT Dirk at C.

Davis is 100% a PF...Ajinca plays beside him.
im stirring shower, Holz said "I have major issues however with team structure" im pointing out imbalance in Jays hence the :P

it doesnt really matter as i cant lose production from a player that is coming off my bench but will start in the real NBA season

Il start my balanced lineup
PG: Russell Westbrook/Jeff Teague
SG: James Harden/Isaiah Thomas
SF:Trevor Ariza /Carmelo Anthony
PF: Chris Bosh/Pau Gasol
C: Rudy Gobert/Nikola Vucevic


ok lets just agree that both teams are flawed and would get stomped by my line up.
ahaha ;D

jvalles69

Have you guys actually thought about this line up though?

PG: Lillard/Bledsoe
SG: Matthews/Oladipo
SF: Durant/Gay
PF: Millsap/Favors
C: Jordan/Whiteside

Scoring AND defence on the 1st team and the 2nd team! Durant will be unstoppable this year!  8)

1 injury though to any team and it's downhill.

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: jvalles69 on September 24, 2015, 01:19:57 AM
Have you guys actually thought about this line up though?

PG: Lillard/Bledsoe
SG: Matthews/Oladipo
SF: Durant/Gay
PF: Millsap/Favors
C: Jordan/Whiteside

Scoring AND defence on the 1st team and the 2nd team! Durant will be unstoppable this year!  8)

1 injury though to any team and it's downhill.
its a great team on paper

things i noticed in research pertaining to two of your players:

Matthews
Matthews (Achilles) will not be available at the start of training camp, ESPN Dallas reports.
Spin: Matthews is making his way back from a torn Achilles suffered in March of last season. He will be brought along gradually to insure he's 100 percent when he resumes playing
achilles are usually a 12 month injury also rumors that Dallas will tank this season scared me off him and Chandler Parsons

Whiteside
Whiteside's workload may not increase much from the 2014-15 season, when he logged 24 minutes per game, the Miami Herald reports. "You might see his minutes jump up when we're playing Andre Drummond or DeAndre Jordan. But if we're playing a team that likes to play small ball, you'll probably see his minutes around 20 or 25," said Heat assistant coach Dan Craig.
This guy could be a monster but as you know being a fantasy guy, 30 minutes per game at least is what is needed

Holz

#239
like to here people thoughts on this team. purposely gone for a team that can have multiple line ups.

(Line up against teams with big men)
PG Lebron James
SG Kyrie Irving
SF Kawahi Leonard
PF Serge Ibaka
C  Dwight Howard

PG: Derick Rose
SG: Kyle Korver
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C1: Marcin Gortat
PF2/smallball C: Tristan Thompson

(Small ball floor spacing lineup)
PG Kyrie Irving
SG Kyle Korver
SF Kawahi Leonard
PF Lebron James
C  Serge Ibaka/Dirk Nowitzki

the reason why I took James 1 is his flexibility i can really play him anywhere outside of C. I like him as sharing point duties with Irving. Leonard and James are elite wing defenders and I will put them on the ofensive threats of the other teams. Irving is a liability a little bit is pure scoring power, I think he can be covered if not I have Korver on the bench. I still really rate Howard and if fit he will shut down guys with Ibaka. Ibaka was stolen great D and can spread the floor alowing james and irving to drive. I like going small ball with James Ibaka Gortat rotating around PF C. Korver is just a pure sniper and Irving is cold bloded so having those two in the last few minutes if the game is on the line is critical. They are a threat so lebron can drive and dish to them or given they are a threat he can drive in without being triple teamed.

of course with this lineup we wont need to rely on last minute clutch :P