ROUND 11 TRADES..

Started by Mark, June 08, 2015, 10:57:17 AM

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PICCOLLO

Quote from: shaker on June 12, 2015, 07:00:11 PM
Ha ha why would anybody be wasting trades to get players in this week that won't play in the next 2 rounds , so much for not caring about the byes I planned and are are copping one doughnut for McKenzie but will use my trades in the next rounds

Very true mate.  The only trades people should be making now are downgrades for cash.  Bringing in premos this week is basically robbing Peter to pay Paul.

AaronKirk

Quote from: PICCOLLO on June 12, 2015, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: shaker on June 12, 2015, 07:00:11 PM
Ha ha why would anybody be wasting trades to get players in this week that won't play in the next 2 rounds , so much for not caring about the byes I planned and are are copping one doughnut for McKenzie but will use my trades in the next rounds

Very true mate.  The only trades people should be making now are downgrades for cash.  Bringing in premos this week is basically robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Please.... I find this "you cannot trade any premos in this week" ridiculous and dumb.

If your bye structure is fine why not make an upgrade or 2 this week - as long as you still move to finish your team and have 18 + each week on field, which I should be able to have.

You still have to maximise points and bring your team to full premium.

If your logic is correct why trade round 12 and 13 rookies in this week?  They have a bye in the next week or 2.





Goosey

Bellchambers and Rich out, Dumont and Mumford in. Keep a trade in reserve for emergency, have 19 playing, will still need one more next week to make 18. I hate the bye rounds (and the sub rule).

dmac07

Quote from: AaronKirk on June 12, 2015, 07:12:24 PM
Quote from: PICCOLLO on June 12, 2015, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: shaker on June 12, 2015, 07:00:11 PM
Ha ha why would anybody be wasting trades to get players in this week that won't play in the next 2 rounds , so much for not caring about the byes I planned and are are copping one doughnut for McKenzie but will use my trades in the next rounds

Very true mate.  The only trades people should be making now are downgrades for cash.  Bringing in premos this week is basically robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Please.... I find this "you cannot trade any premos in this week" ridiculous and dumb.

If your bye structure is fine why not make an upgrade or 2 this week - as long as you still move to finish your team and have 18 + each week on field, which I should be able to have.

You still have to maximise points and bring your team to full premium.

If your logic is correct why trade round 12 and 13 rookies in this week?  They have a bye in the next week or 2.

Happily trading in a premo this week. If I don't it means I have an extra rookie on the field first week post byes, there's my points back right there. Also, due to Bellchambers, Nelson and McKenzie all missing gives me Ward instead of a donut this week.

batt

So Gawn is officially in my team.  Hoping it'll be an inspired pick like Stef was last year.

shaker

Quote from: AaronKirk on June 12, 2015, 07:12:24 PM
Quote from: PICCOLLO on June 12, 2015, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: shaker on June 12, 2015, 07:00:11 PM
Ha ha why would anybody be wasting trades to get players in this week that won't play in the next 2 rounds , so much for not caring about the byes I planned and are are copping one doughnut for McKenzie but will use my trades in the next rounds

Very true mate.  The only trades people should be making now are downgrades for cash.  Bringing in premos this week is basically robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Please.... I find this "you cannot trade any premos in this week" ridiculous and dumb.

If your bye structure is fine why not make an upgrade or 2 this week - as long as you still move to finish your team and have 18 + each week on field, which I should be able to have.

You still have to maximise points and bring your team to full premium.

If your logic is correct why trade round 12 and 13 rookies in this week?  They have a bye in the next week or 2.





If you have trades up your sleeve fine but anyone you trade in this week is going to miss in the next 2 weeks I never trade in the first round of the byes , pointless to me when next week you can trade in players that are over there bye and the same week after and it gives me trades up my sleeve for not trading this week , don't know about you but I would rather have those couple of trades in the bag for the pointy end

Big Mac

Quote from: batt on June 12, 2015, 09:00:08 PM
So Gawn is officially in my team.  Hoping it'll be an inspired pick like Stef was last year.

Will be interesting to see how he does

Has never really had a go as the solo-ruck before


PICCOLLO

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Quote from: AaronKirk on June 12, 2015, 07:12:24 PM
Quote from: PICCOLLO on June 12, 2015, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: shaker on June 12, 2015, 07:00:11 PM
Ha ha why would anybody be wasting trades to get players in this week that won't play in the next 2 rounds , so much for not caring about the byes I planned and are are copping one doughnut for McKenzie but will use my trades in the next rounds

Very true mate.  The only trades people should be making now are downgrades for cash.  Bringing in premos this week is basically robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Please.... I find this "you cannot trade any premos in this week" ridiculous and dumb.

If your bye structure is fine why not make an upgrade or 2 this week - as long as you still move to finish your team and have 18 + each week on field, which I should be able to have.

You still have to maximise points and bring your team to full premium.

If your logic is correct why trade round 12 and 13 rookies in this week?  They have a bye in the next week or 2.

I see your point but I think of it like this:

Rookie r11: 70
Premo r12: 100
Premo r13:100:
I get 3 scores, when most arent fielding more than 18-20 each week.

You get this
Premo r11:100
Premo r12:0
Premo r13: 100

Im effectively a man up. If I do this a few times through the byes (which I am) Im playing 20 odd (best 18) each week.
All this by simply waiting a week for players.  We're both improving our teams but
Im getting more chances to score without extra premos on the pine who I cant trade out.

Re: bringing in rookies, im doing it for cash, never really relying heavily on their scores should they score badly. You can afford a few iffy ones if you are playing 20 guys each week. Im going vberg to boston anyway; vberg is out for a month and wont net me any scores!

Im not saying you cant bring in premos, it just makes sense to wait a week when you dont have to sit 'em on the bench.
If you have to upgrade to avoid a donut then go for it.


Big Mac

There's really no point arguing. Each team is going to be different, each person has a different goal and there are going to be strategies which work for some people but might not work for others.

Jimmykidd

Quote from: Big  Mac on June 12, 2015, 11:30:49 PM
There's really no point arguing. Each team is going to be different, each person has a different goal and there are going to be strategies which work for some people but might not work for others.

This so hard.

Sick of seeing people say what others should and shoudnt do. Every team is different. I only just got 18 this round and had to trade 3 times. Will again next week too.

Ringo

Quote from: PICCOLLO on June 12, 2015, 11:22:02 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on June 12, 2015, 07:12:24 PM
Quote from: PICCOLLO on June 12, 2015, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: shaker on June 12, 2015, 07:00:11 PM
Ha ha why would anybody be wasting trades to get players in this week that won't play in the next 2 rounds , so much for not caring about the byes I planned and are are copping one doughnut for McKenzie but will use my trades in the next rounds

Very true mate.  The only trades people should be making now are downgrades for cash.  Bringing in premos this week is basically robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Please.... I find this "you cannot trade any premos in this week" ridiculous and dumb.

If your bye structure is fine why not make an upgrade or 2 this week - as long as you still move to finish your team and have 18 + each week on field, which I should be able to have.

You still have to maximise points and bring your team to full premium.

If your logic is correct why trade round 12 and 13 rookies in this week?  They have a bye in the next week or 2.

I see your point but I think of it like this:

Rookie r11: 70
Premo r12: 100
Premo r13:100:
I get 3 scores, when most arent fielding more than 18-20 each week.

You get this
Premo r11:100
Premo r12:0
Premo r13: 100

Im effectively a man up. If I do this a few times through the byes (which I am) Im playing 20 odd (best 18) each week.
All this by simply waiting a week for players.  We're both improving our teams but
Im getting more chances to score without extra premos on the pine who I cant trade out.

Re: bringing in rookies, im doing it for cash, never really relying heavily on their scores should they score badly. You can afford a few iffy ones if you are playing 20 guys each week. Im going vberg to boston anyway; vberg is out for a month and wont net me any scores!

Im not saying you cant bring in premos, it just makes sense to wait a week when you dont have to sit 'em on the bench.
If you have to upgrade to avoid a donut then go for it.
A lot will have different Strategies and they are all viable and make sense and will be up to each individual.  Just remember everyone may have different ideas.
This week I combined both my iobjectives downgrade for cash, upgrade where needed and keep byes in focus.
So Rationale for me this week
Vandenberg who is injured to Boston for cash, (No real problem with my byes Round 13 to Round 12 player)
Bellchambers to Pearce for cash and both with Round 12 bye.  Bellchambers not named so I gain a playing rookie and no donuts.
Clark to Ziebell - Clark not named so with cash gained used to upgrade to Round 13 Prem and gain for 2 weeks. (Both had Round 13 bye so no effect on my byes structures) Only regret here is I hope I did not err in tossing the coin the wrong way to choose Ziebell over Wingard after last night.  ;)


H1bb3i2d

Quote from: Ringo on June 13, 2015, 10:16:13 AM
Quote from: PICCOLLO on June 12, 2015, 11:22:02 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on June 12, 2015, 07:12:24 PM
Quote from: PICCOLLO on June 12, 2015, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: shaker on June 12, 2015, 07:00:11 PM
Ha ha why would anybody be wasting trades to get players in this week that won't play in the next 2 rounds , so much for not caring about the byes I planned and are are copping one doughnut for McKenzie but will use my trades in the next rounds

Very true mate.  The only trades people should be making now are downgrades for cash.  Bringing in premos this week is basically robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Please.... I find this "you cannot trade any premos in this week" ridiculous and dumb.

If your bye structure is fine why not make an upgrade or 2 this week - as long as you still move to finish your team and have 18 + each week on field, which I should be able to have.

You still have to maximise points and bring your team to full premium.

If your logic is correct why trade round 12 and 13 rookies in this week?  They have a bye in the next week or 2.

I see your point but I think of it like this:

Rookie r11: 70
Premo r12: 100
Premo r13:100:
I get 3 scores, when most arent fielding more than 18-20 each week.

You get this
Premo r11:100
Premo r12:0
Premo r13: 100

Im effectively a man up. If I do this a few times through the byes (which I am) Im playing 20 odd (best 18) each week.
All this by simply waiting a week for players.  We're both improving our teams but
Im getting more chances to score without extra premos on the pine who I cant trade out.

Re: bringing in rookies, im doing it for cash, never really relying heavily on their scores should they score badly. You can afford a few iffy ones if you are playing 20 guys each week. Im going vberg to boston anyway; vberg is out for a month and wont net me any scores!

Im not saying you cant bring in premos, it just makes sense to wait a week when you dont have to sit 'em on the bench.
If you have to upgrade to avoid a donut then go for it.
A lot will have different Strategies and they are all viable and make sense and will be up to each individual.  Just remember everyone may have different ideas.
This week I combined both my iobjectives downgrade for cash, upgrade where needed and keep byes in focus.
So Rationale for me this week
Vandenberg who is injured to Boston for cash, (No real problem with my byes Round 13 to Round 12 player)
Bellchambers to Pearce for cash and both with Round 12 bye.  Bellchambers not named so I gain a playing rookie and no donuts.
Clark to Ziebell - Clark not named so with cash gained used to upgrade to Round 13 Prem and gain for 2 weeks. (Both had Round 13 bye so no effect on my byes structures) Only regret here is I hope I did not err in tossing the coin the wrong way to choose Ziebell over Wingard after last night.  ;)

Personally I wanted to bring in an extra round 13 bye premium this week because I'd rather 3 players on my mid bench this week and 3 in round 13, than 4 and just 2.

Donnie Brasco

McIntosh -> Pearce
CEY -> Ward

tkringle

Pearce vs Hamling if not concerned about byes?

HotTiges

Quote from: tkringle on June 13, 2015, 01:41:04 PM
Pearce vs Hamling if not concerned about byes?
hamling now pearce has had a price rise..