WXV Expansion

[Ziplock]

The sub is getting scrapped next year so there's another 18 proper scorers per week. There's room for one more team but taking it to 20 might be OOP city.

19 would be a pain for fixtures though.

Doesn't the sub out basically give you double the amount of scorers with the red and green vest? :P

[ossie85]

With the sub rule on average there's 75 points per player available

Without the sub rule there's 75 points per player available.

Remember everything scaled to 3300.

Basically the sub rule as it stands has been slightly increasing the scores of all non sub players

[Ziplock]

With the sub rule on average there's 75 points per player available

Without the sub rule there's 75 points per player available.

Remember everything scaled to 3300.

Basically the sub rule as it stands has been slightly increasing the scores of all non sub players

It'll more evenly spread the points though, it'll decrease, slightly, the scoring of most players, but increase significantly the scoring of the subs.

[Purple 77]

All, righty.

As each day passes, I get more and more sure that I want two extra teams next year.

However, this is a democratic decision; if none of you like/want it, then it won't happen... next year at least.

This, is my proposal.

Two new teams; lets call them the Tehran Terror and the Stockholm Syndromes (just for this example at least).

In the AFL, we saw the Gold Coast and GWS introduced recently, and was built through draft concessions and... the most controversial part in this I'm sure, poaching. Under my proposal, both these things will happen. First of all, this is what (if the current ladder stands and New Delhi, Cairo and Buenos Aires get priority picks), the first two rounds of the draft will look like under my proposal:

1   New Delhi (priority)
2   Tehran Terror
3   Stockholm Syndromes
4   New Delhi
5   Stockholm Syndromes
6   Tehran Terror
7   Cairo
8   Tehran Terror
9   Stockholm Syndromes
10   Buenos Aires
11   Stockholm Syndromes
12   Tehran Terror
13   Seoul Magpies
14   Tehran Terror
15   Stockholm Syndromes
16   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
17   Stockholm Syndromes
18   Tehran Terror
19   Cape Town Cobras
20   Pacific Islanders
21   Toronto Wolves
22   London Royals
23   Beijing Thunder
24   Tokyo Samurai
25   Berlin Brewers
26   New York Revolution
27   Mexico City Suns
28   Moscow Spetnaz
29   Christchurch Saints
30   Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers
31   Dublin Destroyers
32   Cairo (priority)
33   Buenos Aires (priority)
34   Tehran Terror
35   Stockholm Syndromes
36   New Delhi Tigers
37   Cairo Sands
38   Buenos Aires Armadillos
39   Seoul Magpies
40   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
41   Cape Town Cobras
42   Pacific Islanders
43   Toronto Wolves
44   London Royals
45   Beijing Thunder
46   Tokyo Samurai
47   Berlin Brewers
48   New York Revolution
49   Mexico City Suns
50   Moscow Spetnaz
51   Christchurch Saints
52   Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers
53   Dublin Destroyers

So basically, Tehran and Stockholm will own the majority of the first 20 picks, then it is normal from there.

IN ADDITION to these draft concessions, and inspired by the GWS mini-draft, Stockholm will be given 2016 draft Pick 1 & 4, and Tehran will be given 2016 draft pick 2 & 3. THESE PICKS MUST BE TRADED, or else they will be unuseable.

Now, poaching.

Please bare with me on this one. First, the top 4 can nominate 5 players that are un-poachable.  5th-8th can nominate 6. 9th-12th can nominate 7. 13th-16th can nominate 8. 17th and 18th can nominate 9.

Tehran and Stockholm have the right to poach up to 5 players each, but no more than 1 player from any team. That means each current team can lose no more than 2 players. BUT THERE IS COMPENSATION! After each player is poached, a committee of coaches (up for ideas, but thinking the coaches lucky enough to not be affected by poaching) decides on the level of compensation, the levels same as the AFL but a little different:

Band 1) End of first round pick in 2015 and 2016

Band 2) The higher pick out of End of first round pick or mid-first round pick

Band 3) The lower pick out of End of first round pick or mid-first round pick

Band 4) End of second round pick

Or a combination of these bands, as the situation dictates.



There is currently 819 AFL players, with 18 WXV teams consisting of either 45 or 46 players. 20 teams would reduce this to 40 or 41 players per team.

Know that if we gave the OK to two new teams, it would mean that the XV fielded would become more flexible and the cap would be modified.

However, I'm not asking for you to consider that at this stage, I want you to think about:
1) Do you want two new teams next year
2) Do you like my idea of how to build it
3) If no to either, that's fine :) will gladly here your say in all this.


Also, if you do like my idea, but think the concessions should be modified or increased/decreased, please let me know.

[Ricochet]

1) yes
2) probably the fairest way to do it

[AaronKirk]

If expansion was to occur (I'm probably against it at this stage) the proposal put up by Purps seems reasonable and fair.

[Jroo]

1) No, I'm happy with how WXVs is running atm
2) If we were to have two teams, I think that's the right way to go about it.

No doubt MCS and Dublin will lose two players each, which I'm not a massive fan of, but I can't see how else it would work.
Maybe that teams can only lose one player, not one player to each side.

[kilbluff1985]

i see rucks is the biggest issue with getting 2 new teams

nobody will be willing to give up there ruck

maybe if you give extra compo if they give one up

[RaisyDaisy]

If expansion was to occur (I'm probably against it at this stage) the proposal put up by Purps seems reasonable and fair.

Echoing my Co-Coaches sentiments

And

i see rucks is the biggest issue with getting 2 new teams

nobody will be willing to give up there ruck

maybe if you give extra compo if they give one up

Flower them. They'll be raping the draft and poaching our guns anyway. They can cop OOP if need be, but will prob just poach a 2nd tier ruck anyway :P

[Nige]

1) No, I'm happy with how WXVs is running atm
2) If we were to have two teams, I think that's the right way to go about it.

[Holz]

Strongly opposed to a 20 team league.

In fact I think it should go down to a 16 team league. More teams means more inequality, more rules to try and fix that and in the end you have a complex comp with massive inequslity.

Always got to be different at Dublin.

[Ricochet]

Strongly opposed to a 20 team league.

In fact I think it should go down to a 16 team league. More teams means more inequality, more rules to try and fix that and in the end you have a complex comp with massive inequslity.

Always got to be different at Dublin.

Putting up Dublin as one of the teams that folds?

[Holz]

Strongly opposed to a 20 team league.

In fact I think it should go down to a 16 team league. More teams means more inequality, more rules to try and fix that and in the end you have a complex comp with massive inequslity.

Always got to be different at Dublin.

Putting up Dublin as one of the teams that folds?

It wouldn't work just highlighting that an expansion shouldn't occur. Weaker teams merging would work but as I saif logistically not fair.

[kilbluff1985]

just another one of my crazy ideas

we introduce two more teams

but

each year the bottom team or or bottom teams get evicted from the competition

we have a mini draft of the players of those evicted players

then we replace hose teams again similar to how purple wants to introduce these teams

maybe to complicated or to much change just a crazy idea i think would keep the comp even

[Ricochet]

just another one of my crazy ideas

we introduce two more teams

but

each year the bottom team or or bottom teams get evicted from the competition

we have a mini draft of the players of those evicted players

then we replace hose teams again similar to how purple wants to introduce these teams

maybe to complicated or to much change just a crazy idea i think would keep the comp even

So teams get poached every year?? Dunno if that'll sit well man