Rolling lockout BS... Time for a better system

Belegur · May 18, 2015, 03:52:17 AM

Having to check the teams half an hour before 9 games a weekend is absolutely ridiculous. It's impossible to optimise your overall points unless your mind is on supercoach all weekend.

With the old system you could cop bad luck, but that's part of the game still anyway. At least you could set your team Friday night, sit back and enjoy SuperCoach, sit back and enjoy the footy, and enjoy watching the scores at your leisure while you got on with the weekend.

The amount of work that needs to be done and the combination and permutations of things you need to keep an eye on are frankly ridiculous. Needing to keep any eye on a players mid game score because you might have to loophole him with another player who's game starts before this one finished... Trying to rearrange trade strategy's mid round because you emergency just pumped out a 150.... realy? It's out of control.

And here's the thing, these kind of decisions have very little or nothing to do with actually football knowledge. It's a lot more to do with math and logic. I personal have checked almost every final teams announcement over the past 2 years, very often this results in over 100 points gained. I would not be suprised if this weekend some people had over 200 point swings from if they hadn't checked the teams on Saturday arvo alone.

So basically it doesn't mater how good you are, how much you know about footy or even realy how lucky you are if you don't check it all weekend you are gimping your chance of winning. If you want to look at why participation numbers dropped off I'd start by looking at why it's extremely difficult for anyone who plays weekend sport, has a weekend job, or just doesn't want to be handcuffed to their phone all weekend to get involved. I'd hate to think someone got over the line this year just because they had no life on the weekend, and I'd like to know when I win my league this year that it was because had superior knowledge of the game, not because my mates couldn't be bothered checking the teams 180 times.

ossie85 · May 18, 2015, 08:35:36 AM

100% agree

I'm having my worse year in a while, partly because I don't have time to check before every game (also, some very bad decisions on my part).

Unfortunately, the more people log in, the more advertising bucks they get. So it ain't gonna change anytime soon.

:(

shaker · May 18, 2015, 08:57:41 AM

I'd be happy to go back to the old system not that the rolling lockout affects me but they would need to get rid of the stupid sub rule so it is a more even playing field for all , that is one thing I hate about AF and RDT

redfield · May 18, 2015, 10:27:57 AM

I do find it somewhat tiresome to have to attend to SC so much over the weekend. I justify it by saying that it's worth the time and energy since there's a chance to win decent money but it certainly isn't ideal. It does pull my attention away from other things quite often and it makes it impossible for me to do things which require constant attention or (effectively) do AF or RDT. I wouldn't mind going back to the old way of doing things but I can't see it happening, unfortunately.

The_Captain · May 18, 2015, 10:36:01 AM

Absolutely spot on! The coaches these days in the afl arent making it any easier either with late changes only 1-2 hours before the game its a joke. The the sub rule as well now. It just isnt feasible.

Sucks after my game of footy finishes on a Saturday and i look at the 3 games that were on at the same time and 2 players have been late withdrawals.

Basically to stand a chance you need to be at your computer all weekend refreshing your screens to see all the updates... Most simply dont have the time.

Friday full lockouts need to come back.

kilbluff1985 · May 18, 2015, 12:24:47 PM

you cant stop late changes that's just silly

what if a player wakes up with gastro or gets hurt during warm up

The_Captain · May 18, 2015, 12:29:36 PM

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 18, 2015, 12:24:47 PM
you cant stop late changes that's just silly

what if a player wakes up with gastro or gets hurt during warm up

You can change the lockout system but!

LordSneeze · May 18, 2015, 04:15:26 PM

Scrap the sub rule and maybe i would be willing to accept it.

Either that, or if your player is sub you get the best score of the subbed player or your Emergency.

Late outs are fine as most of the time there are rumours about them and you can plan accordingly.

The_Captain · May 18, 2015, 06:57:27 PM

Quote from: LordSneeze on May 18, 2015, 04:15:26 PM
Scrap the sub rule and maybe i would be willing to accept it.

Either that, or if your player is sub you get the best score of the subbed player or your Emergency.

Late outs are fine as most of the time there are rumours about them and you can plan accordingly.

Yep. Sub rule to go also. Good for nothing. Then just cap interchange at 80 or 100 and will be no need for sub

Dudge · May 18, 2015, 07:23:35 PM

Been saying for ages (just ask Grazz ), I work a lot of Saturdays, and the lads soccer sundays, makes it easier for people that sit at their computers all weekends. That's why I suck at S/C, not sure of the reason I suck at RDT and AF but :(

MC · May 18, 2015, 10:41:08 PM

If the person who wins the 50k has to spend a few hours each weekend adjusting their team i'm sure they'd cop it on the chin. Most of us that are keen enough to join and post on a forum are also keen enough to follow the games and changes throughout the year. Deal with it I reckon!

Torpedo10 · May 18, 2015, 10:50:29 PM

Quote from: ossie85 on May 18, 2015, 08:35:36 AM

100% agree

I'm having my worse year in a while, partly because I don't have time to check before every game (also, some very bad decisions on my part).

Unfortunately, the more people log in, the more advertising bucks they get. So it ain't gonna change anytime soon.

:(

Agreed, we need to start a petition to go back to full lockout or a "best score on bench" rule that could help with unlucky injuries.

YoungGun · May 18, 2015, 11:19:43 PM

less trades and less handed out information would be great too so it's a bit harder. unfortunately the good old days are long gone

Typhoon · May 19, 2015, 10:35:24 AM

I'm playing 3 types this year...

SC, UltimateFooty, AF... and out of all of them i'd combine the best parts of all of them...

SC - for Scoring
AF - Complete Lockout
UltimateFooty - 35% game time score - otherwise reverts to the highest game time of player onfield & emergency..

The AFL app does have final teams with sub 1hr before the game, but would be nice if SC posted final teams and even push notifications on the app of any changes from Friday's teams... Then it's really up to the user to check their phone and adjust rather than chasing up any rumours or last minute changes... But all of us at some point over the weekend throughout the year will always get caught out and miss a loophole or be unlucky....

plumdog millionaire · May 19, 2015, 11:48:42 AM

Footy Alerts app is a good one, sends you a notification right when subs and that are announced, has saved my a$$ on more than one occasion so at least you have a chance of changing teams last minute