NBA Season 2015/16

[Andrew3747]

He wont ever get passed MJ now imo. Has to do a lot. Ill put him ahead if he gets 3peat from here with mvps. Prob the only way he gets to number 1.

[Holz]

C'mon Holz, yes Curry didn't have a good series but he was obviously not 100% because of his knee.

Definitely seemed to be down on confidence from deep compared to his normal self. Was that the knee or just him lacking confidence after some quieter games?

he was able to perform in this series and was pretty decent for 3 quarters then went cold in the 4th.

I saw enough from him health wise to say those missed shots were missed shots.

are you giving Curry an asterix.

Chocked in Playoffs * was somewhat injured.

Cleveland did a great job on Curry. Trapping him off the PnR really worked well, and TT did an amazing job guarding him in mismatches. And Curry with his dumb turnovers and silly fouls definitely played worse than usual. But when a big got matched up with him, in the regular season he'd dance rings around them, this series he really hasn't been able to gain any separation which I think is because of his knee.

I don't think we should lose sight of what an amazing season he and the rest of the Warriors team had. I think the funniest storyline of these playoffs is that if a certain Warrior had hit opponent's in the nuts less often, we could have a different champion right now.. Sports are strange :P

It cant go both way.

He got all the praise in the regular season, talk of greatest season ever and all that. If thats true then he needs to get massive amounts of criticism now and the warriors as a whole, they were way too volatile.

Klay some nights crazy hot, another nights was cold. Green was pretty great all series but had a few quiet games aswell.

The difference is Cavs pretty much has a great performance from lebron every night. Game 4 his only bad game. Lebron keeps you in the game, Kyrie was just the tipping stone to get them the chip.

Im not going to be as harsh on Curry as people would expect, simply because I dont think he is that great. He isnt a generational player and the guy to take Lebrons crown.

Anthony Davis is probably the front runner

Just quietly though, Irving at 24 is making waves, Curry is 28 looking at their career progression Irving is ahead in my books.

[Jay]

C'mon Holz, yes Curry didn't have a good series but he was obviously not 100% because of his knee.

Definitely seemed to be down on confidence from deep compared to his normal self. Was that the knee or just him lacking confidence after some quieter games?

he was able to perform in this series and was pretty decent for 3 quarters then went cold in the 4th.

I saw enough from him health wise to say those missed shots were missed shots.

are you giving Curry an asterix.

Chocked in Playoffs * was somewhat injured.

Cleveland did a great job on Curry. Trapping him off the PnR really worked well, and TT did an amazing job guarding him in mismatches. And Curry with his dumb turnovers and silly fouls definitely played worse than usual. But when a big got matched up with him, in the regular season he'd dance rings around them, this series he really hasn't been able to gain any separation which I think is because of his knee.

I don't think we should lose sight of what an amazing season he and the rest of the Warriors team had. I think the funniest storyline of these playoffs is that if a certain Warrior had hit opponent's in the nuts less often, we could have a different champion right now.. Sports are strange :P

It cant go both way.

He got all the praise in the regular season, talk of greatest season ever and all that. If thats true then he needs to get massive amounts of criticism now and the warriors as a whole, they were way too volatile.

Klay some nights crazy hot, another nights was cold. Green was pretty great all series but had a few quiet games aswell.

The difference is Cavs pretty much has a great performance from lebron every night. Game 4 his only bad game. Lebron keeps you in the game, Kyrie was just the tipping stone to get them the chip.

Im not going to be as harsh on Curry as people would expect, simply because I dont think he is that great. He isnt a generational player and the guy to take Lebrons crown.

Anthony Davis is probably the front runner

Just quietly though, Irving at 24 is making waves, Curry is 28 looking at their career progression Irving is ahead in my books.

Why can't it go both ways? Curry had one of the best offensive regular seasons of all-time and fully deserved unanimous MVP. Doesn't mean he is better than LeBron. Nobody in the league is better than LeBron.

Curry got hurt and didn't deliver in the playoffs. I'll still take him any day over Durant, Irving, Davis, Westbrook etc.

[Holz]

Why can't it go both ways? Curry had one of the best offensive regular seasons of all-time and fully deserved unanimous MVP. Doesn't mean he is better than LeBron. Nobody in the league is better than LeBron.

Curry got hurt and didn't deliver in the playoffs. I'll still take him any day over Durant, Irving, Davis, Westbrook etc.

Because Curry had a fantastic offensive regular season.

To me he wasnt the most valuable player to his team, nor was he the best all round player in the game.

Lebron was the most important player too his team.
I also say he was the best all round player.

The talk was he was a clear standout and the pack and all those names I could argue a case for them being above Curry.

Leonard is a better 2 way player with elite defense and pretty good offense. Curry elite scoring (not passing) and good defense.
James does it all
Anthony Davis, Kawahi Leonard  and Kyrie Irving are all much younger and not that far behind.

Even KD and Westbrook are younger.

in 10 years time we will not look back and go gee Curry was the player of that era.

[Jay]

[plumdog millionaire]

Why can't it go both ways? Curry had one of the best offensive regular seasons of all-time and fully deserved unanimous MVP. Doesn't mean he is better than LeBron. Nobody in the league is better than LeBron.

Curry got hurt and didn't deliver in the playoffs. I'll still take him any day over Durant, Irving, Davis, Westbrook etc.

Because Curry had a fantastic offensive regular season.

To me he wasnt the most valuable player to his team, nor was he the best all round player in the game.

Lebron was the most important player too his team.
I also say he was the best all round player.

The talk was he was a clear standout and the pack and all those names I could argue a case for them being above Curry.

Leonard is a better 2 way player with elite defense and pretty good offense. Curry elite scoring (not passing) and good defense.
James does it all
Anthony Davis, Kawahi Leonard  and Kyrie Irving are all much younger and not that far behind.

Even KD and Westbrook are younger.

in 10 years time we will not look back and go gee Curry was the player of that era.

No respect smh

[Holz]

Why can't it go both ways? Curry had one of the best offensive regular seasons of all-time and fully deserved unanimous MVP. Doesn't mean he is better than LeBron. Nobody in the league is better than LeBron.

Curry got hurt and didn't deliver in the playoffs. I'll still take him any day over Durant, Irving, Davis, Westbrook etc.

Because Curry had a fantastic offensive regular season.

To me he wasnt the most valuable player to his team, nor was he the best all round player in the game.

Lebron was the most important player too his team.
I also say he was the best all round player.

The talk was he was a clear standout and the pack and all those names I could argue a case for them being above Curry.

Leonard is a better 2 way player with elite defense and pretty good offense. Curry elite scoring (not passing) and good defense.
James does it all
Anthony Davis, Kawahi Leonard  and Kyrie Irving are all much younger and not that far behind.

Even KD and Westbrook are younger.

in 10 years time we will not look back and go gee Curry was the player of that era.

No respect smh

its more I think i respect the other guys soo highly.

curry is absolutely fantastic but so are the other guys.

Leonard is 24 years old and has been the best defensive player in the NBA the last 2 years. He is now an elite 3 point shooter despite not being as high volume. Is taking responsibility for being "the guy" of one of the best dynasty's ever.

Anthony Davis is a freak at 23 and is playing for a terrible team and getting quite a few injuries. He is highly effecient and if he can get his body and team right could be the best player of this generation.

Lebron james is still playing at an elite level and while his body is not what it was, he has improved in other areas.

Kd westbrook speak for themselves.

Kyrie is kinda like a young curry, injuries have slowed down his growth but his last 4 games in this playoffs have been amazing. You can argue he has shown more in playoffs then curry has.

saying its Curry then a big gap then these guys is showing no respect. Im not pushing curry down, im pulling all these other guys up.

[Jay]

Why can't it go both ways? Curry had one of the best offensive regular seasons of all-time and fully deserved unanimous MVP. Doesn't mean he is better than LeBron. Nobody in the league is better than LeBron.

Curry got hurt and didn't deliver in the playoffs. I'll still take him any day over Durant, Irving, Davis, Westbrook etc.

Because Curry had a fantastic offensive regular season.

To me he wasnt the most valuable player to his team, nor was he the best all round player in the game.

Lebron was the most important player too his team.
I also say he was the best all round player.

The talk was he was a clear standout and the pack and all those names I could argue a case for them being above Curry.

Leonard is a better 2 way player with elite defense and pretty good offense. Curry elite scoring (not passing) and good defense.
James does it all
Anthony Davis, Kawahi Leonard  and Kyrie Irving are all much younger and not that far behind.

Even KD and Westbrook are younger.

in 10 years time we will not look back and go gee Curry was the player of that era.

He had the 8th best PER ever, his team went 73-9 yet they were outscored by 4.3 points per 100 possessions when he was off the court. He was the most valuable player this season. Is that because LeBron just paces himself through the regular season these days? Maybe. But I disagree with that we won't look back at him as an all-time great player. Honestly, I see him finishing in the top 20 all-time. One "bad" (had a higher PER than Klay, Russ and KD in the conference finals) playoffs doesn't change the fact that when you watched Steph Curry this season, you were basically watching someone playing as well as prime MJ. I certainly don't take anything away from his season because he was outplayed by one of the greatest of all-time.

[Holz]

Why can't it go both ways? Curry had one of the best offensive regular seasons of all-time and fully deserved unanimous MVP. Doesn't mean he is better than LeBron. Nobody in the league is better than LeBron.

Curry got hurt and didn't deliver in the playoffs. I'll still take him any day over Durant, Irving, Davis, Westbrook etc.

Because Curry had a fantastic offensive regular season.

To me he wasnt the most valuable player to his team, nor was he the best all round player in the game.

Lebron was the most important player too his team.
I also say he was the best all round player.

The talk was he was a clear standout and the pack and all those names I could argue a case for them being above Curry.

Leonard is a better 2 way player with elite defense and pretty good offense. Curry elite scoring (not passing) and good defense.
James does it all
Anthony Davis, Kawahi Leonard  and Kyrie Irving are all much younger and not that far behind.

Even KD and Westbrook are younger.

in 10 years time we will not look back and go gee Curry was the player of that era.

He had the 8th best PER ever, his team went 73-9 yet they were outscored by 4.3 points per 100 possessions when he was off the court. He was the most valuable player this season. Is that because LeBron just paces himself through the regular season these days? Maybe. But I disagree with that we won't look back at him as an all-time great player. Honestly, I see him finishing in the top 20 all-time. One "bad" (had a higher PER than Klay, Russ and KD in the conference finals) playoffs doesn't change the fact that when you watched Steph Curry this season, you were basically watching someone playing as well as prime MJ. I certainly don't take anything away from his season because he was outplayed by one of the greatest of all-time.

serious question.

you say One bad playoffs doesnt change anything.

But my question is has he had one great playoffs?

he was pretty good last year but Lebron was the best play in the series and everyone knows that. Iggy was the best for the warriors.

what have we seen in the playoffs?

Im not saying he cant im just saying he still hasn't shown an all time great performance  in the playoffs yet.

People say Lebron is the greatest player in history of 46 minutes or greatest in the regular season then criticize him for his playoff performances, what has curry done.

Just a side note just saw lebron was #1 in points, rebounds, assist, steals, blocks for both teams in this series. The first time that has ever happend. 

[Andrew3747]

Lets no forget the fact that the game these days allows for great shooters to shine. Even though Curry is the GOAT pure shooter, it hightned by the fact that people just arent fouling/pressuring shooters as much as they used to. They are given a lot more space since protecting the rim from easy buckets is a better option. Players like Curry given space just makes him look better than he really is.  As an offensive weapon, id gladly take Durant over Curry. Take back the clock 10 even maybe 6-7 years and prime Curry doesnt look this good.

[plumdog millionaire]

No reasonable person said there was a massive gap in talent as you say. He just outplayed everyone by so much during the regular season and before he got injured as the stats show, and that's a truth no one can argue. He might be the most popular player since Jordan and is an face of the game. It's bigger than basketball with him
But it's also true that LeBron was better in a way that outplayed expectations relative to the season, and that's just a testament to him. No one doubts LeBron at his peak is better than all but 1 or 2  players we've seen and he performed as such

[Holz]

No reasonable person said there was a massive gap in talent as you say. He just outplayed everyone by so much during the regular season and before he got injured as the stats show, and that's a truth no one can argue. He might be the most popular player since Jordan and is an face of the game. It's bigger than basketball with him
But it's also true that LeBron was better in a way that outplayed expectations relative to the season, and that's just a testament to him. No one doubts LeBron at his peak is better than all but 1 or 2  players we've seen and he performed as such

greatest of all time season implies a gap. People generally think that the past is arguably tougher then the current generation of players. So you cant say greatest season ever and then not say there isnt a gap.

Anyway.

Today is about Lebron James, Kyrie Irving and Cleveland.

Coming from 1-3 behind is fantastic.

[Andrew3747]

Dont think Curry is top 3 prob not even top 5 of GOAT single seasons.

[Holz]

Dont think Curry is top 3 prob not even top 5 of GOAT single seasons.

we now have to say regular season.

As if you include playoffs its not a top 100 season. As surely playoffs count for much more.

[plumdog millionaire]

No reasonable person said there was a massive gap in talent as you say. He just outplayed everyone by so much during the regular season and before he got injured as the stats show, and that's a truth no one can argue. He might be the most popular player since Jordan and is an face of the game. It's bigger than basketball with him
But it's also true that LeBron was better in a way that outplayed expectations relative to the season, and that's just a testament to him. No one doubts LeBron at his peak is better than all but 1 or 2  players we've seen and he performed as such

greatest of all time season implies a gap. People generally think that the past is arguably tougher then the current generation of players. So you cant say greatest season ever and then not say there isnt a gap.

Anyway.

Today is about Lebron James, Kyrie Irving and Cleveland.

Coming from 1-3 behind is fantastic.

Not in terms of talent, just production as I said