NBA Season 2015/16

[Holz]

but Oscar Robertson what in the blue hell have you been smokin? :o

I think he may have been mis-interpreted. 

Defence back then was a lot tougher because you could hand-check and body-check players and not be called for a foul.  So defenders could play closer to the man which makes it tougher to get a jump shot off (hence why someone like Larry Bird could take 200 odd 3pt'ers and be considered a lights out shooter).

In current day defence you can't hand-check or body-check a player (unless its in the post :P) so you have to be a step back from your opponent. This gives players space to take more long range jump shots.

That coupled with the quick release of Curry's shot means he can shoot so many more long range shots.

He has a point if curry played in that era then i dont think he would be anywhere as effecient and score as much. Still would just not these levels.

Thats why comparing his PER to jordan is ridicolous as is the statement he is having the best season ever

[valkorum]

J-Will appreciation day (always happens on a Thursday)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAG3JKIDmSQ

[plumdog millionaire]

What a meltdown by the Thunder... Couple of tough losses this week

[jvalles69]

What a meltdown by the Thunder... Couple of tough losses this week

Was watching the box scores and they crumbled!  :o

[Jay]

What a meltdown by the Thunder... Couple of tough losses this week

I don't think Donavon is very good. He's better than Brooks, but I thought the improvement would be really noticeable from the coaching change. That hasn't been the case.

[plumdog millionaire]

What a meltdown by the Thunder... Couple of tough losses this week

I don't think Donavon is very good. He's better than Brooks, but I thought the improvement would be really noticeable from the coaching change. That hasn't been the case.

Yeah so far he has been solid, but forgettable in my opinion
Imagine this team with The Hon. Brad Stevens, MD. as coach

[Jay]

What a meltdown by the Thunder... Couple of tough losses this week

I don't think Donavon is very good. He's better than Brooks, but I thought the improvement would be really noticeable from the coaching change. That hasn't been the case.

Yeah so far he has been solid, but forgettable in my opinion
Imagine this team with The Hon. Brad Stevens, MD. as coach

He is the perfect human being.

[RiOtChEsS]

but Oscar Robertson what in the blue hell have you been smokin? :o

I think he may have been mis-interpreted. 

Defence back then was a lot tougher because you could hand-check and body-check players and not be called for a foul.  So defenders could play closer to the man which makes it tougher to get a jump shot off (hence why someone like Larry Bird could take 200 odd 3pt'ers and be considered a lights out shooter).

In current day defence you can't hand-check or body-check a player (unless its in the post :P) so you have to be a step back from your opponent. This gives players space to take more long range jump shots.

That coupled with the quick release of Curry's shot means he can shoot so many more long range shots.

He has a point if curry played in that era then i dont think he would be anywhere as effecient and score as much. Still would just not these levels.

Thats why comparing his PER to jordan is ridicolous as is the statement he is having the best season ever

Lolz Holz, Lolz ::)


Valk he could have worded his assessment a lot better and even still it doesnt have any merit, he is making it sound as though if you push up on Steph he cant blow by you and make plays...

"[Curry] has shot well because of what's going on in basketball today. In basketball today, it's almost like if you can dunk or make a three-point shot, you're the greatest thing since sliced bread...there have been some great shooters in the past...but here again, when I played...if you shot outside and hit it, the next time I'm going to be up on top of you. I'm going to pressure you with three-quarters, half-court defense. But now they don't do that. These coaches do not understand the game of basketball, as far as I'm concerned."

All the while he is ignoring the fact just how far beyond the 3pt line this guy is lights out, the recent buzzer beater VS OKC the defender did push out meters beyond the 3pt line and Curry just pulled up from further out and drained it.
I dont have an issue with him trying to make a case that his era was harder or better or whatever he is aiming at but simply stating that "he shoots well because the defense is trash" is complete and utter horse shower, if this is the case then LeBron cant ever be the greatest, Kobe's numbers are inflated and every single statistic beyond the hand check era is pointless...

[Holz]

but Oscar Robertson what in the blue hell have you been smokin? :o

I think he may have been mis-interpreted. 

Defence back then was a lot tougher because you could hand-check and body-check players and not be called for a foul.  So defenders could play closer to the man which makes it tougher to get a jump shot off (hence why someone like Larry Bird could take 200 odd 3pt'ers and be considered a lights out shooter).

In current day defence you can't hand-check or body-check a player (unless its in the post :P) so you have to be a step back from your opponent. This gives players space to take more long range jump shots.

That coupled with the quick release of Curry's shot means he can shoot so many more long range shots.

He has a point if curry played in that era then i dont think he would be anywhere as effecient and score as much. Still would just not these levels.

Thats why comparing his PER to jordan is ridicolous as is the statement he is having the best season ever

Lolz Holz, Lolz ::)


Valk he could have worded his assessment a lot better and even still it doesnt have any merit, he is making it sound as though if you push up on Steph he cant blow by you and make plays...

"[Curry] has shot well because of what's going on in basketball today. In basketball today, it's almost like if you can dunk or make a three-point shot, you're the greatest thing since sliced bread...there have been some great shooters in the past...but here again, when I played...if you shot outside and hit it, the next time I'm going to be up on top of you. I'm going to pressure you with three-quarters, half-court defense. But now they don't do that. These coaches do not understand the game of basketball, as far as I'm concerned."

All the while he is ignoring the fact just how far beyond the 3pt line this guy is lights out, the recent buzzer beater VS OKC the defender did push out meters beyond the 3pt line and Curry just pulled up from further out and drained it.
I dont have an issue with him trying to make a case that his era was harder or better or whatever he is aiming at but simply stating that "he shoots well because the defense is trash" is complete and utter horse shower, if this is the case then LeBron cant ever be the greatest, Kobe's numbers are inflated and every single statistic beyond the hand check era is pointless...

he would still score, can you honestly say he would drop 30 a night with a PER above 30, Like Jordan did?

He has been compared to those levels now. Its no surprise the older generation arent happy.

[valkorum]

Lolz Holz, Lolz ::)


Valk he could have worded his assessment a lot better and even still it doesnt have any merit, he is making it sound as though if you push up on Steph he cant blow by you and make plays...

"[Curry] has shot well because of what's going on in basketball today. In basketball today, it's almost like if you can dunk or make a three-point shot, you're the greatest thing since sliced bread...there have been some great shooters in the past...but here again, when I played...if you shot outside and hit it, the next time I'm going to be up on top of you. I'm going to pressure you with three-quarters, half-court defense. But now they don't do that. These coaches do not understand the game of basketball, as far as I'm concerned."

All the while he is ignoring the fact just how far beyond the 3pt line this guy is lights out, the recent buzzer beater VS OKC the defender did push out meters beyond the 3pt line and Curry just pulled up from further out and drained it.
I dont have an issue with him trying to make a case that his era was harder or better or whatever he is aiming at but simply stating that "he shoots well because the defense is trash" is complete and utter horse shower, if this is the case then LeBron cant ever be the greatest, Kobe's numbers are inflated and every single statistic beyond the hand check era is pointless...

I agree he could have said it better, but your point of saying he did push up on him is totally disregarding the quote in bold (which I assume is from Oscar)

Oscar is saying that if a guy hits a 3, he starts picking him up from 3/4 court or half-court.  The player defending Curry in the final moments started at the 3 point and pushed up - that's not a full court defence.  That's a bad reaction to a situation that GSW created because they continued to play instead of calling a time out - smart play.

Your point of saying that if you press up on Curry, he will blow you away is absolutely spot on in current day NBA.  He has fantastic handles and speed to get past a defender but in the past, players would body-check and hand-check their opponent so you couldnt blow past them.

2 different eras of basketball with 2 completely different styles and I personally like both (even though I played in the old style)

Old style - A lot more physical, half-court setup plays, a lot more post play.
Current sytle - Fast paced, outside shooters, pick and roll.

[Holz]

I know its only a regular season game but really excited to see what OKC bring tonight.

Westbrook will want to take curry out

[RiOtChEsS]

I know its only a regular season game but really excited to see what OKC bring tonight.

Westbrook will want to take curry out

Yeah he was really taking him out with that 5/21fg performance :D

[Holz]

I know its only a regular season game but really excited to see what OKC bring tonight.

Westbrook will want to take curry out

Yeah he was really taking him out with that 5/21fg performance :D

he had a bad night and that highlights the weakness of the thunder.

1/8 3 point shooting shows he tried probably abit too hard and wont give up even if not his night.

when your team shots 4/20 from 3 point range you aint going to win.

[plumdog millionaire]

I know its only a regular season game but really excited to see what OKC bring tonight.

Westbrook will want to take curry out

Yeah he was really taking him out with that 5/21fg performance :D

he had a bad night and that highlights the weakness of the thunder.

1/8 3 point shooting shows he tried probably abit too hard and wont give up even if not his night.

when your team shots 4/20 from 3 point range you aint going to win.

A big problem is even when they get open looks they're swinging the ball to the likes of Roberson, Foye, Waiters and Singler who just don't cut it

On a big possession late Westbrook did the right thing and passed up a good shot for a better shot in the corner... Only problem was that he passed it to Roberson, a 26% shooter from 3. It's kind of a huge problem as teams shade off him big time

[Cookie Monster]

I officially hate Steph Curry



YOU CANT BE THAT GOOD ITS NOT POSSIBLE NO

He's too good he's pissing me off, probably more so as i'm a Thunder fan.


Thunder have lost 10 games going into the 4th in the lead. If we had won those we'd be going for the record too.

But things like, Durant being double teamed with 15 seconds to go and not calling a time out or not helping him. or fouling on a potential game tying shot, or Westbrook taking fastbreak 3 when we had 15 seconds to make a play.

Stuff like that won't win us playoff matches,