NBA Season 2015/16

[jvalles69]

And you're also had a chance to look at who have the best potential in those drafts like Portis, Hood etc at the same time Peli's could've drafted junk.  Jrue is actually playing out of his skin right now and has been since he came back from injury.  Lot of if's in your equations...

[Holz]

what I want to see is them do some good trades.

they should have a top 10 pick.

I wonder if they could make some cap room and chase a free agent. Ryan Adnerson and Eric Gordon are free agents end of the year.

some scary combos could come up.

Lebron James: he probably wont leave but imagine him at point forward and guarding the wings then you need to get through AD.
Kevin Durrant: This would just be scary both guys have huge wing spans and the scoring options would be insane.
Russ Westbrook: will probably casue a KD Westbrook thing again but no doubt it would be fun to watch.

they wont do anything and he will stay a 8th seed but they really should. its a huge waste to have him on this team. I just wish it was a better franchise. Flip it and say he was in New York with the current team im sure you could get a big name to join him.

Agreed. It's frustrating to have a transcendent player stuck on an incompetent franchise. They got AD, realised he's great and then tried to win straight away - which was a massive mistake. 2013 Draft, a year after taking Davis, they take the best player available at #6, Nerlens Noel, great move.. But trade him along with a 2014 first round pick to Philly for Jrue Holiday. That pick ended up being pick 10, which means guys like Elfrid Payton, Doug McDermott, Zach Lavine, Jusuf Nurkic, Gary Harris, Rodney Hood, Clint Capela, Kyle Anderson were available. I'd certainly rather any of those guys and Nerlens over Holiday... They then gave up a 2015 first round pick to Houston for Omer Asik - that ended up being pick 18, could have had a Bobby Portis or Jerian Grant in that spot. This latest off-season was another disaster - they gave Asik a 5-year 60 million dollar contract, and Ajinca 4 years 20 million. Both guy's play centre, which happens to be Davis' best position... What an allocation of resources.

The trade deadline a few days ago they did absolutely nothing. That was their last chance to try and get something back for free agents Eric Gordon and Ryan Anderson. Gordon has already tried to leave New Orleans before, and Anderson is going to require a massive contract to keep. And all they are going to do now is add wins to the team, worsening their draft pick, before leaving and New Orleans getting nothing in return.

Anthony Davis, Nerlens Noel, Tyreke Evans, Rodney Hood, Bobby Portis + whatever assets they could have gotten back for Gordon and Anderson, and then a lottery pick this year. Now that would be a great core for the Pelicans to go forward with.

Instead they are where they are now. Stuck, and wasting years of Davis.

in retrospect Holiday was a mistake but i dont mind it too much.

Gordon and Anderson though they should have done something.

Asik was the stupid move i was alluding too.

Holiday is actually pretty decent 18.5 points 4 rebounds 1.5 steals with 7.2 assits in his last 2 months (25 games)

what can they do as a small franchise. The only attraction they have is AD.

If they got a second sueprstar then everyone would flock to them, but they wont be able too.

[RiOtChEsS]

 ;D everyone would give an arm and a leg for AD

He will stay, they wont trade, New Orleans could attract some big names to play with him

[Jay]

KAT putting on a show vs the Celtics at the moment. Can't remember seeing a more impressive rookie.

[Holz]

Im going to be annoying a revisit this Irving v Green offense talk. Last 5 games (excluding the game irving was take out early with the flu)

Green 10.2 PPG 5.4 APG

Irving 29 PPG 6.2 APG

these dont even compare.

[plumdog millionaire]

Im going to be annoying a revisit this Irving v Green offense talk. Last 5 games (excluding the game irving was take out early with the flu)

Green 10.2 PPG 5.4 APG

Irving 29 PPG 6.2 APG

these dont even compare.

Revisit this in the playoffs

[plumdog millionaire]

And pick any 5 game stretch, you make arguments either way. It's completely arbitrary

[jvalles69]

And pick any 5 game stretch, you make arguments either way. It's completely arbitrary

But everyone's been making claims of 1.5 seasons with Green against 5 or so years of Kyrie...same thing.

[plumdog millionaire]

And pick any 5 game stretch, you make arguments either way. It's completely arbitrary

But everyone's been making claims of 1.5 seasons with Green against 5 or so years of Kyrie...same thing.

Exact same thing?

[jvalles69]

And pick any 5 game stretch, you make arguments either way. It's completely arbitrary

But everyone's been making claims of 1.5 seasons with Green against 5 or so years of Kyrie...same thing.

Exact same thing?

Not exactly, but saying that Green is the better offensive player (that might not exactly what was said, but the comparison was still there) off 1.5 seasons to Kyries 5 is a bit of a stretch.  Also think Holz was continuing on the fact that Kyrie is healthier and actually getting his legs back into form.

[jvalles69]

Lance Stephenson also had a really good 1.5 - 2 years, look where that guys gone...

[Jay]

Last 10 games..

Harden 30.2ppg 7.4apg
Curry 27.9ppg 6.6apg

Is Harden a better offensive player than Curry?  ::)



Draymond has had to play centre a lot lately with Bogut and Ezeli out. Would hurt your offense having to bang with the big boys in the paint for an extended period of time. Besides, this wasn't even the main point of my argument - you disagreed that Green is a better player than Irving, not just offensively. Take the last 5 games, take any stretch of games, Draymond is just a lot better.

[plumdog millionaire]

And pick any 5 game stretch, you make arguments either way. It's completely arbitrary

But everyone's been making claims of 1.5 seasons with Green against 5 or so years of Kyrie...same thing.

Exact same thing?

Not exactly, but saying that Green is the better offensive player (that might not exactly what was said, but the comparison was still there) off 1.5 seasons to Kyries 5 is a bit of a stretch.  Also think Holz was continuing on the fact that Kyrie is healthier and actually getting his legs back into form.

5 games is way too little for any point to be made, that is all.

I get that the track record is important, but that doesn't disadvantage Green, it just gives Irving more credibility to the stats, but accounting for injuries it's only 3.5 seasons for Irving.
I think a huge factor in Green's favour is that when he became a starter the team went from a solid team to historically great offensively. He's only helped that. Whereas Kyrie did what he wanted on 21, 24 and 33 win teams, obviously taking injuries into account

[plumdog millionaire]

Lance Stephenson also had a really good 1.5 - 2 years, look where that guys gone...

Exceptions to the rule

[jvalles69]

The only thing I will concede is that Green is the better all round player...but Kyrie is a way better offensive player than Green.