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Jay

Quote from: Holz on November 19, 2015, 02:57:56 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 19, 2015, 02:56:23 PM
Wow Houston are junk!

the only healthy team the warriors played and were said to be a legit threat.
The Warriors are 95-20 in their last 115 regular season + playoff games.

valkorum

Its J-Will's 40th birthday today so Rondo pulls out the tribute during todays game against the Hawks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_mjISjvbsg

Jay

Quote from: valkorum on November 19, 2015, 10:34:43 PM
Its J-Will's 40th birthday today so Rondo pulls out the tribute during todays game against the Hawks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_mjISjvbsg
Ahh that brings back memories. Always loved that ball fake.

Good to see you're enjoying the Rondo experience, Valk ;)

valkorum

4 triple doubles in 12 games - I like that.

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: Jayman on November 19, 2015, 03:08:04 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 19, 2015, 02:57:56 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 19, 2015, 02:56:23 PM
Wow Houston are junk!

the only healthy team the warriors played and were said to be a legit threat.
The Warriors are 95-20 in their last 115 regular season + playoff games.
haha Houston clearly arent the same team this year

Holz

Westbrook straight out ballin this year again

28.1 points off 46.8% FG
7.8 rebounds with 2.3 offensive
10.4 assists
2.2 steals

I know it just goes to the best player on the a top seed team but easily my MVP at this stage of the year.

curry get back to me when you pass and rebound.




Jay

Quote from: Holz on November 20, 2015, 12:04:12 PM
Westbrook straight out ballin this year again

28.1 points off 46.8% FG
7.8 rebounds with 2.3 offensive
10.4 assists
2.2 steals

I know it just goes to the best player on the a top seed team but easily my MVP at this stage of the year.

curry get back to me when you pass and rebound.
Don't be silly Holz. Westbrook is an athletic freak whereas Curry is more of a finesse guy - you can't compare them on their rebounding, which isn't even that important for a guard. As for the assists, I think you'll find that Curry playing with elite passers such as Draymond and to a lesser extent, Igoudala, drop his numbers down slightly. If their offense was just Curry pounding the ball for 12 seconds and then setting up a shot for a team-mate he could average like 14 assists if he wanted to.. But their ball movement means plenty of other guy's are getting involved - a reason why they're so good.

The advanced stats don't lie and Curry beats Westbrook in Player Effiency Rating, True Shooting %, Effective FG%, Win Shares, Offensive rating, defensive rating and plus-minus (In the minutes Curry is on the court, the Warriors are +164 points over their opposision, ranked 1st in the league. The minutes Westbrook is on the court, OKC are a +97). Westbrook is obviously an absolute elite player, but Curry is on another level at the moment.

elephants

Quote from: Jayman on November 20, 2015, 01:11:55 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 20, 2015, 12:04:12 PM
Westbrook straight out ballin this year again

28.1 points off 46.8% FG
7.8 rebounds with 2.3 offensive
10.4 assists
2.2 steals

I know it just goes to the best player on the a top seed team but easily my MVP at this stage of the year.

curry get back to me when you pass and rebound.
Don't be silly Holz. Westbrook is an athletic freak whereas Curry is more of a finesse guy - you can't compare them on their rebounding, which isn't even that important for a guard. As for the assists, I think you'll find that Curry playing with elite passers such as Draymond and to a lesser extent, Igoudala, drop his numbers down slightly. If their offense was just Curry pounding the ball for 12 seconds and then setting up a shot for a team-mate he could average like 14 assists if he wanted to.. But their ball movement means plenty of other guy's are getting involved - a reason why they're so good.

The advanced stats don't lie and Curry beats Westbrook in Player Effiency Rating, True Shooting %, Effective FG%, Win Shares, Offensive rating, defensive rating and plus-minus (In the minutes Curry is on the court, the Warriors are +164 points over their opposision, ranked 1st in the league. The minutes Westbrook is on the court, OKC are a +97). Westbrook is obviously an absolute elite player, but Curry is on another level at the moment.

This whole discussion reminds me of when Jukes was saying Ablett wasn't the best... :P

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: elephants on November 20, 2015, 01:14:42 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 20, 2015, 01:11:55 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 20, 2015, 12:04:12 PM
Westbrook straight out ballin this year again

28.1 points off 46.8% FG
7.8 rebounds with 2.3 offensive
10.4 assists
2.2 steals

I know it just goes to the best player on the a top seed team but easily my MVP at this stage of the year.

curry get back to me when you pass and rebound.
Don't be silly Holz. Westbrook is an athletic freak whereas Curry is more of a finesse guy - you can't compare them on their rebounding, which isn't even that important for a guard. As for the assists, I think you'll find that Curry playing with elite passers such as Draymond and to a lesser extent, Igoudala, drop his numbers down slightly. If their offense was just Curry pounding the ball for 12 seconds and then setting up a shot for a team-mate he could average like 14 assists if he wanted to.. But their ball movement means plenty of other guy's are getting involved - a reason why they're so good.

The advanced stats don't lie and Curry beats Westbrook in Player Effiency Rating, True Shooting %, Effective FG%, Win Shares, Offensive rating, defensive rating and plus-minus (In the minutes Curry is on the court, the Warriors are +164 points over their opposision, ranked 1st in the league. The minutes Westbrook is on the court, OKC are a +97). Westbrook is obviously an absolute elite player, but Curry is on another level at the moment.

This whole discussion reminds me of when Jukes was saying Ablett wasn't the best... :P
33ppg 5tppg at 52% from the field, 92% from the line, dare i say nobody has averaged those combined numbers ever

RiOtChEsS

few scribes subscribing to the Clippers ending the streak today, im not as convinced

Jay

Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 20, 2015, 01:27:08 PM
few scribes subscribing to the Clippers ending the streak today, im not as convinced
Agreed. Especially with CP and Redick a bit banged up I wouldn't be surprised if Golden State blow them out.

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: Jayman on November 20, 2015, 01:34:41 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 20, 2015, 01:27:08 PM
few scribes subscribing to the Clippers ending the streak today, im not as convinced
Agreed. Especially with CP and Redick a bit banged up I wouldn't be surprised if Golden State blow them out.
the last few Warriors games ive been wagering my whole account, today i didnt so i guess i think they're a chance

elephants

QuoteDoc Rivers says Chris Paul will play vs. Warriors tonight and JJ Redick "most likely not"

RiOtChEsS


Holz

Quote from: elephants on November 20, 2015, 01:14:42 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 20, 2015, 01:11:55 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 20, 2015, 12:04:12 PM
Westbrook straight out ballin this year again

28.1 points off 46.8% FG
7.8 rebounds with 2.3 offensive
10.4 assists
2.2 steals

I know it just goes to the best player on the a top seed team but easily my MVP at this stage of the year.

curry get back to me when you pass and rebound.
Don't be silly Holz. Westbrook is an athletic freak whereas Curry is more of a finesse guy - you can't compare them on their rebounding, which isn't even that important for a guard. As for the assists, I think you'll find that Curry playing with elite passers such as Draymond and to a lesser extent, Igoudala, drop his numbers down slightly. If their offense was just Curry pounding the ball for 12 seconds and then setting up a shot for a team-mate he could average like 14 assists if he wanted to.. But their ball movement means plenty of other guy's are getting involved - a reason why they're so good.

The advanced stats don't lie and Curry beats Westbrook in Player Effiency Rating, True Shooting %, Effective FG%, Win Shares, Offensive rating, defensive rating and plus-minus (In the minutes Curry is on the court, the Warriors are +164 points over their opposision, ranked 1st in the league. The minutes Westbrook is on the court, OKC are a +97). Westbrook is obviously an absolute elite player, but Curry is on another level at the moment.

This whole discussion reminds me of when Jukes was saying Ablett wasn't the best... :P

that's a little harsh. Im saying curry is the second best at the moment. Thats not like Jukes.

I do rate boards from a guard its something that adds another string to your bow. 2.3 offensive is elite

I still rate westbrook higher. If i was saying who is the better solo player. when your 3rd in points, 1st in assists and top 4 in steals and up the top in rebounds for guards thats not that silly a call.

I do say westbrook is the better defender, curry obviously is the far superior shooter but I have westbrook in every other category.

you cant stop curry from hitting shots but you cant stop westbrook from scoring either, doesnt matter if he is driving, shooting or passing.

if your being conservative and giving only 2 points to an assist then he is contributing 49.7 points a game once you add in 3s then he is adding like 50-53 points a game. thats insane

Curry is doing great too with 45.5

you can make a case for either and i know im in a minority but if you had to pick one guy mine would be westbrook.