NBA Season 2015/16

[RiOtChEsS]

Thought the same thing about Oden.

Different age, different injury

injury prone and a terrible draft pick, big dudes only get more injured the older they get, this guy already cant get on the court

[Mat0369]

It's not a terrible pick. They had the chance to take the number one rated player in the draft with the highest ceiling and your potential franchise guy. You have to take him. Who do they draft instead? Exum? Dude is on the court and doing just as much as Embiid.

[RiOtChEsS]

It's not a terrible pick. They had the chance to take the number one rated player in the draft with the highest ceiling and your potential franchise guy. You have to take him. Who do they draft instead? Exum? Dude is on the court and doing just as much as Embiid.

we debated this last year, we can continue to every year/game this guy doesnt play :-X

[Holz]

It's not a terrible pick. They had the chance to take the number one rated player in the draft with the highest ceiling and your potential franchise guy. You have to take him. Who do they draft instead? Exum? Dude is on the court and doing just as much as Embiid.

we debated this last year, we can continue to every year/game this guy doesnt play :-X

there wasnt much at that pick though that has done anything. So it was a calcualted risk. As Matt said I would actually still rather have Embiid than most of the guys avialblae at that pick even now.

[RiOtChEsS]

It's not a terrible pick. They had the chance to take the number one rated player in the draft with the highest ceiling and your potential franchise guy. You have to take him. Who do they draft instead? Exum? Dude is on the court and doing just as much as Embiid.

we debated this last year, we can continue to every year/game this guy doesnt play :-X

there wasnt much at that pick though that has done anything. So it was a calcualted risk. As Matt said I would actually still rather have Embiid than most of the guys avialblae at that pick even now.

w0w
with Philly's current roster as if you wouldnt want to slot Exum in at PG, he isnt getting quality minutes like he would on a car crash squad like the 76ers, could have inflated numbers and be a better asset already than Embroken will ever be, big guys never get more durable, scratch that nobody ever gets more durable :D

[Mat0369]

Exum who has only played against scrubs before the NBA and can't shoot? They already had a PG with a broken shooting stroke that was a lot better on defense in MCW on the roster at that point.

[Jay]

It's not a terrible pick. They had the chance to take the number one rated player in the draft with the highest ceiling and your potential franchise guy. You have to take him. Who do they draft instead? Exum? Dude is on the court and doing just as much as Embiid.

we debated this last year, we can continue to every year/game this guy doesnt play :-X

there wasnt much at that pick though that has done anything. So it was a calcualted risk. As Matt said I would actually still rather have Embiid than most of the guys avialblae at that pick even now.

w0w
with Philly's current roster as if you wouldnt want to slot Exum in at PG, he isnt getting quality minutes like he would on a car crash squad like the 76ers, could have inflated numbers and be a better asset already than Embroken will ever be, big guys never get more durable, scratch that nobody ever gets more durable :D

I'd rather have any of Exum, Smart, Gordon over Embiid at this point. Granted, I woudn't have dreamt of saying that at the time of the draft. The guy is so bloody talented, but is turning into a train wreck. No guarantee he ever gets on the court.

[RiOtChEsS]

Exum who has only played against scrubs before the NBA and can't shoot? They already had a PG with a broken shooting stroke that was a lot better on defense in MCW on the roster at that point.

who u might remember was moved on for assets, would u say Williams value increased with playing time from when he was drafted? and would you say Embiid's value has increased or decreased since being drafted?

[Mat0369]

I'd rather have any of Exum, Smart, Gordon over Embiid at this point. Granted, I woudn't have dreamt of saying that at the time of the draft. The guy is so bloody talented, but is turning into a train wreck. No guarantee he ever gets on the court.

And none of those guys have anywhere near the talent that Embiid has. You have to take the shot on Embiid in that situation 10 out of 10 times. He is a generational talent, the others aren't

who u might remember was moved on for assets, would u say Williams value increased with playing time from when he was drafted? and would you say Embiid's value has increased or decreased since being drafted?

MCW won rookie of the year in his first season, there is no way Philly were drafting a PG going into that spot. The fact that MCW's progress stalled and he is much older then your regular 2nd year guy lead to them trading him and gaining another asset in the Lakers pick. Exum has looked horrible and nowhere near anything more then a bench guy. An injured Embiid holds more value then Exum right now. High quality bigs are so coveted in the league that guys like Kwame hung around for 15 years even though they were terrible. Average players like Jordan are getting max contracts when they are nothing more then a good defensive player that can only catch lobs.

Basically normal teams who have their supposed stud bust/not be able to play because of chronic injuries set severe setbacks. This team without Embiid may not necessarily suffer a SEVERE setback because of how it is currently constructed. They may have lost a potential cornerstone of this team but they still have Nerlens and Okafor. Stauskas fills a necessary role and could be there for the long haul in whatever role that comes to be defined as. Dario Saric is a special talent and seems like he wants to come over as early as next season. On top of that, they have four potential first round picks coming in next season.

Normal teams go back to the drawing board at this point. This isn't necessarily a normal team though. This was part of the risk in drafting this guy. This isn't some shocking thing out of left field. This exact scenario is why they went through two years of tanking while accumulating draft picks.

A good number of first rounders either don't pan out or simply turn out to be solid bench/role players (which is not a bad thing). So what Hinkie is doing is trying to increase his odds of drafting a franchise player or two by stacking the deck. I think it's a smart play. Draft a whole bunch of guys over a 3 or 4 year period and hope that a few of them turn into cornerstone players, knowing full well a bunch won't. Take some gambles along the way. That is exactly what Embiid is. A calculated risk. If he doesn't pan out you are no worse off. It was a 3 player draft and you got one of the 3.

Had Philly ended up drafting Parker or Randle they would have also been without their first round pick for a year. It is a setback, it doesn't mean he is done. The fact that he grew 2 inches while the injury was healing could be the main reason that the setback occurred. Give it time, let it play out, if he misses next season as well then you have an issue. They did get their insurance policy in Okafor.

And just a side note, Billy King went full King mode and signed Andrea Bargnani away from the Kings

[Holz]

It's not a terrible pick. They had the chance to take the number one rated player in the draft with the highest ceiling and your potential franchise guy. You have to take him. Who do they draft instead? Exum? Dude is on the court and doing just as much as Embiid.

we debated this last year, we can continue to every year/game this guy doesnt play :-X

there wasnt much at that pick though that has done anything. So it was a calcualted risk. As Matt said I would actually still rather have Embiid than most of the guys avialblae at that pick even now.

w0w
with Philly's current roster as if you wouldnt want to slot Exum in at PG, he isnt getting quality minutes like he would on a car crash squad like the 76ers, could have inflated numbers and be a better asset already than Embroken will ever be, big guys never get more durable, scratch that nobody ever gets more durable :D

Steph curry had big big ankle injuries. He is looking more durable. I know he is a guard but he beats the nobody test.

[jvalles69]

It's not a terrible pick. They had the chance to take the number one rated player in the draft with the highest ceiling and your potential franchise guy. You have to take him. Who do they draft instead? Exum? Dude is on the court and doing just as much as Embiid.

we debated this last year, we can continue to every year/game this guy doesnt play :-X

there wasnt much at that pick though that has done anything. So it was a calcualted risk. As Matt said I would actually still rather have Embiid than most of the guys avialblae at that pick even now.

w0w
with Philly's current roster as if you wouldnt want to slot Exum in at PG, he isnt getting quality minutes like he would on a car crash squad like the 76ers, could have inflated numbers and be a better asset already than Embroken will ever be, big guys never get more durable, scratch that nobody ever gets more durable :D

Steph curry had big big ankle injuries. He is looking more durable. I know he is a guard but he beats the nobody test.

Dominique Wilkins came back from the a bad achilles injury just like a lot of guys who never made it back, he was ana absolute beast when he came back, another example.

Also have to agree with Mat here, no way you take Exum over Embiid, 76ers were still tanking so a year off with surgery didn't matter, i'd be a little worried now with another surgery coming on, but Exum will be at best a nomad role player and starter when someone's injured.

[Jay]

And just a side note, Billy King went full King mode and signed Andrea Bargnani away from the Kings

As someone who wants the Nets to be as bad as possible, this is music to my ears.

[Mat0369]

There is a middle ground to the navicular in terms of history in the NBA. A guy like Jordan (although much smaller) made a full recovery and never had an issue with it again. Someone like Yao it ended his career. The middle ground is Big Z who had a couple of years where it caused him issues before he was able to come back and play some good basketball.

[Mat0369]

As someone who wants the Nets to be as bad as possible, this is music to my ears.

The Nets are going to be a horrible franchise for as long as Billy King is in charge.

[RiOtChEsS]

mmm disagree but anyways no point banging our heads against the wall

just found Jaymans first tattoo digging for sketches :D