Round 6 MRP

Started by kilbluff1985, May 04, 2015, 04:07:11 PM

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honza


Woppa15


Big Mac

Quote from: honza on May 05, 2015, 07:25:47 PM
Quote from: tmac16 on May 05, 2015, 07:24:51 PM
hodge 3 weeks...

Anyone else 5 weeks

Yarran hooked a bloke and got the same

Wtf are you talking about

LordSneeze

While I agree that this should have been 3 weeks. Precident set with Yarran.

I disagree with the May verdict. If they Adjudicated that May was guilty they should have held it at 2. To me it shows a lack of common sense in consistency.

PiPies

Quote from: Woppa15 on May 05, 2015, 07:16:29 PM
Quote from: PiPies on May 05, 2015, 07:11:48 PM
Two weeks for Lewis is rubbish, how that was classed as careless and not intentional is beyond me. Three weeks for May is too harsh. If Hodge gets 3 the consistency/fairness of the MRP is a joke, again.

Common sense says that the severity of the penalties should be Hodge/Yarran equally as bad then Lewis then May.

I would have thought anyway. Also I thought you couldn't take a discount for a guilty plea under the new system but the AFL council seems awfully happy to hand out reduced sentences.....

Yes that's how I see it as do plenty of others I'd say.

honza

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Quote from: Big  Mac on May 05, 2015, 07:29:07 PM
Quote from: honza on May 05, 2015, 07:25:47 PM
Quote from: tmac16 on May 05, 2015, 07:24:51 PM
hodge 3 weeks...

Anyone else 5 weeks

Yarran hooked a bloke and got the same

Wtf are you talking about

Matter of opinion. It's about the weight distribution and inertia. A hook punch loses its inertia on impact (unless your arm's built of lead). Putting your weight behind your elbow and lining someone up is a serious hit.

There's a reason why basic hits in martial arts are hitting (not slapping) with the palm of the hand.

T Dog

Glad I don't have to explain it to juniors, and make it sound sensible.  >:(

tor01doc

3 seems reasonable.

My man crush remains intact.  :-*

Mailman the 2nd

Quote from: GoLions on May 05, 2015, 07:13:04 PM
Quote from: j959 on May 05, 2015, 07:09:45 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 05, 2015, 07:03:31 PM
Quote from: js19 on May 05, 2015, 06:43:47 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 05, 2015, 06:40:06 PM
I don't get why you are all so surprised. He chose to bump. He got Rocky in the jaw, knocking him out cold. Rocky may not play this week because of it.

Did he intend to make high contact? No. Does that matter? No.

I think for me it comes down to the comparison with Lewis, and the malicious intent in that incident
Lewis probably should have gotten 3 weeks, and if May didn't challenge he would've only received a 2 week suspension, which is a lot better. I honestly have no idea why May challenged, he was gone from the moment he made contact with Rocky's jaw.
I didn't see it as a bump but maybe only seeing it twice in replay isn't a fair indication of the incident??

I saw it as him contesting for the ball and Rocky comes in last minute from his point of view ...

saw commentary indicating tribunal directions to jury saying if he had no other alternative as in he could've picked up the ball ... from what I saw that's what he was about to do and then Rocky is there so he braces for impact, but again, maybe the replays aren't quite in total context??  ???
May's case was that his only option was to bump Rocky before going for the ball. Jury said he could've gone for the ball without bumping. So he clearly knew Rocky was there :P

Don't get me wrong, he's extremely unlucky, but you just can't make contact to the head any more and expect to play the next week, whether it's accidental or not.

Except plenty of players have in the best. Off the top of my head Franklin and Ballentyne both in the exact situation last year and got off completely free (rightly so as well)

Shouldn't make a difference if Rockliff had to go to hospital either, Darren Glass sent Chad Wingard to hospital and only got 1 week for it

Mailman the 2nd

lmao 3 weeks for Hodge is a complete joke, I guess he's a brave champion of the game still  ::)

tor01doc

Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 05, 2015, 07:57:09 PM
lmao 3 weeks for Hodge is a complete joke, I guess he's a brave champion of the game still  ::)

Come on Nancy,

Hit him but no blood. Swallow kept playing. 3 weeks seems fair.

3 for May is a load of crap though - even though Rocky was knocked out and he chose to bump which we all know is a risky choice given the current climate.

Mailman the 2nd

Quote from: tor01doc on May 05, 2015, 08:02:51 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 05, 2015, 07:57:09 PM
lmao 3 weeks for Hodge is a complete joke, I guess he's a brave champion of the game still  ::)

Come on Nancy,

Hit him but no blood. Swallow kept playing. 3 weeks seems fair.

3 for May is a load of crap though - even though Rocky was knocked out and he chose to bump which we all know is a risky choice given the current climate.

I'm ok with Hodge getting 3 if Lewis gets 3, May gets 0 and Yarran gets 4 but there is 0 consistency at all.

Disappointing to say the least as its fast becoming a lottery once again

Big Mac

Quote from: honza on May 05, 2015, 07:48:47 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on May 05, 2015, 07:29:07 PM
Quote from: honza on May 05, 2015, 07:25:47 PM
Quote from: tmac16 on May 05, 2015, 07:24:51 PM
hodge 3 weeks...

Anyone else 5 weeks

Yarran hooked a bloke and got the same

Wtf are you talking about

Matter of opinion. It's about the weight distribution and inertia. A hook punch loses its inertia on impact (unless your arm's built of lead). Putting your weight behind your elbow and lining someone up is a serious hit.

There's a reason why basic hits in martial arts are hitting (not slapping) with the palm of the hand.

Not sure inertia is the right word there (don't think it can be lost or gained) but the momentum of Yarran's punch is transferred straight to Chappy's head. None is 'lost'. A hook can easily be just as lethal as what Hodge did.

tor01doc

Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 05, 2015, 08:07:11 PM
Quote from: tor01doc on May 05, 2015, 08:02:51 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 05, 2015, 07:57:09 PM
lmao 3 weeks for Hodge is a complete joke, I guess he's a brave champion of the game still  ::)

Come on Nancy,

Hit him but no blood. Swallow kept playing. 3 weeks seems fair.

3 for May is a load of crap though - even though Rocky was knocked out and he chose to bump which we all know is a risky choice given the current climate.

I'm ok with Hodge getting 3 if Lewis gets 3, May gets 0 and Yarran gets 4 but there is 0 consistency at all.

Disappointing to say the least as its fast becoming a lottery once again

So Mt2,

Can we agree on

May - a reprimand
Lewis - 2 (down from 3 because he copped it sweet)
Yarran - 3 - a better punch than any seen in that farce of the century the other day
Hodge - 3?

Mailman the 2nd

Quote from: tor01doc on May 05, 2015, 08:14:00 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 05, 2015, 08:07:11 PM
Quote from: tor01doc on May 05, 2015, 08:02:51 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 05, 2015, 07:57:09 PM
lmao 3 weeks for Hodge is a complete joke, I guess he's a brave champion of the game still  ::)

Come on Nancy,

Hit him but no blood. Swallow kept playing. 3 weeks seems fair.

3 for May is a load of crap though - even though Rocky was knocked out and he chose to bump which we all know is a risky choice given the current climate.

I'm ok with Hodge getting 3 if Lewis gets 3, May gets 0 and Yarran gets 4 but there is 0 consistency at all.

Disappointing to say the least as its fast becoming a lottery once again

So Mt2,

Can we agree on

May - a reprimand
Lewis - 2 (down from 3 because he copped it sweet)
Yarran - 3 - a better punch than any seen in that farce of the century the other day
Hodge - 3?

To some extent yes, Hodge was very lucky though. Any significant damage to Swallow and that's reaching Barry Hall territory