Shiel the real deal??

Started by AFLWizard, April 12, 2015, 04:14:02 PM

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Bill Manspeaker

Quote from: Pkbaldy on April 14, 2015, 05:24:02 PM
I heard Saints were trading Nroo for him. #werf

our PP. LOSE DAMMIT :P

Bully

ON THE COUCH (FOX FOOTY)

RE-SIGNING Dylan Shiel should be the GWS Giants’ No. 1 priority during the 2015 season, according to legendary Hawthorn goalkicker Jason Dunstall.

Shiel is out of contract at the end of the season and rival clubs, reportedly Richmond and Melbourne, in particular are keen to lure the star midfielder away from the Giants on a big deal.

The 22-year-old has had a tremendous start to the season, finishing with one goal from 28 disposals against St Kilda in Round 1 then three goals from 26 disposals against Melbourne on the weekend.

Dunstall said the Giants must ensure Shiel puts pen to paper imminently.

“This guy reaps class. He is class from head to toe,” Dunstall said.

“Very few left-footers look comfortable on the right. And boy has he got some gears and some poise.”

http://www.news.com.au/national/phil-walsh-on-adelaide-captaincy-gold-coast-and-carlton-slammed-essendon-praised-after-round-2-what-you-missed-on-tv-last-night/story-e6frp9-1227302655713

ando_10

jumping on at 509k is what ill be doing

gaz > bont (via moving gray to the mids)
cripps > sheil

Mat0369

Quote from: Grufflez on April 14, 2015, 01:45:32 AM
All the money in the world couldn't get young talent like this to Carlton in the coming years mate.

It helps when they already love the club  ;)

Both were Carlton supporters growing up and it is no secret Treloar idolizes Judd. If I had to pick one of the two to be more likely to move across it would be Treloar. The lure of playing with one of your two childhood heroes (Judd and The Rock) would be a lot of young footy players dreams (minus winning a premiership). You also have SOS now at Carlton so we have another link to the Giants

For the sake of the Giants you hope they both don't walk and end up signing extensions

Quote from: Bully on April 14, 2015, 03:09:35 PM
And the rest, first round pick plus player will be the going rate. Richmond will be prepared to let Conca or Vickery go to get this over the line.

Why would they want either?

Bully

Quote from: Mat0369 on April 15, 2015, 05:55:05 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on April 14, 2015, 01:45:32 AM
All the money in the world couldn't get young talent like this to Carlton in the coming years mate.

It helps when they already love the club  ;)

Both were Carlton supporters growing up and it is no secret Treloar idolizes Judd. If I had to pick one of the two to be more likely to move across it would be Treloar. The lure of playing with one of your two childhood heroes (Judd and The Rock) would be a lot of young footy players dreams (minus winning a premiership). You also have SOS now at Carlton so we have another link to the Giants

For the sake of the Giants you hope they both don't walk and end up signing extensions

Quote from: Bully on April 14, 2015, 03:09:35 PM
And the rest, first round pick plus player will be the going rate. Richmond will be prepared to let Conca or Vickery go to get this over the line.

Why would they want either?

Vickery still has value, could fetch a top 20 pick on the open market. Conca is worth a second rounder, would be icing on the cake. Don't forget what Carlton received for pick 7, GWS are reasonable negotiators.

Fid

Quote from: ando_10 on April 15, 2015, 04:59:52 PM
jumping on at 509k is what ill be doing

gaz > bont (via moving gray to the mids)
cripps > sheil

I was going Lewis and Bont for Gaz and Cripps, but time has come for this 22 year old Shiel. His stats from a 16 year old to now are just amazing

Bully

Quote from: Fid on April 15, 2015, 06:50:14 PM
Quote from: ando_10 on April 15, 2015, 04:59:52 PM
jumping on at 509k is what ill be doing

gaz > bont (via moving gray to the mids)
cripps > sheil

I was going Lewis and Bont for Gaz and Cripps, but time has come for this 22 year old Shiel. His stats from a 16 year old to now are just amazing

He also tagged a bit last season, his stats are artificially low as a result. I think he can go 110 this year.

ando_10

Quote from: Fid on April 15, 2015, 06:50:14 PM
Quote from: ando_10 on April 15, 2015, 04:59:52 PM
jumping on at 509k is what ill be doing

gaz > bont (via moving gray to the mids)
cripps > sheil

I was going Lewis and Bont for Gaz and Cripps, but time has come for this 22 year old Shiel. His stats from a 16 year old to now are just amazing

ive had lewis from day dot. great move getting him now. ya wont regret it. yeah always liked shiel he played against my cousin in juniors and thought he was a beast.

Bully

Just has a little play around with the Bont/Shiel combo and boy does my midfield look smokin.

Shiel, Fyfe, Pendles, JPK, Selwood, Bont, Rich, CEY. (Vandenberg, Heeney, Miller)

The defence is a worry though, if Goodes is a no show then this won't be a possibility (but it looks damn impressive for now).

Fid

Quote from: ando_10 on April 15, 2015, 07:10:59 PM
Quote from: Fid on April 15, 2015, 06:50:14 PM
Quote from: ando_10 on April 15, 2015, 04:59:52 PM
jumping on at 509k is what ill be doing

gaz > bont (via moving gray to the mids)
cripps > sheil

I was going Lewis and Bont for Gaz and Cripps, but time has come for this 22 year old Shiel. His stats from a 16 year old to now are just amazing

ive had lewis from day dot. great move getting him now. ya wont regret it. yeah always liked shiel he played against my cousin in juniors and thought he was a beast.

Yep beast is right - over 100 SC points in all but one match as a junior (16yo) and came 4th in the Mulrooney Medal (18yo) even after missing 6 games.  That year he averaged 124 SC points whilst Treloar averaged 82

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Bully on April 15, 2015, 07:19:33 PM
Just has a little play around with the Bont/Shiel combo and boy does my midfield look smokin.

Shiel, Fyfe, Pendles, JPK, Selwood, Bont, Rich, CEY. (Vandenberg, Heeney, Miller)

The defence is a worry though, if Goodes is a no show then this won't be a possibility (but it looks damn impressive for now).

Stick with your original plan otherwise our teams will continue to be too similar :P

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Fid on April 15, 2015, 07:25:24 PM
Yep beast is right - over 100 SC points in all but one match as a junior (16yo) and came 4th in the Mulrooney Medal (18yo) even after missing 6 games.  That year he averaged 124 SC points whilst Treloar averaged 82

I was pumping up Shiel this preseason (Yeah I've mentioned it a couple of times already, but I knew he would explode this year :P), because I remember clearly when GWS first entered the league all the hype was around how damn good he was, but for some reason he never got a real go in their first season and people just forgot I guess

Kind of spewing he went SO good so far, because I was always going to bring him in, but now many more people will.

Like The Bont, don't expect this crazy good 120+ big scores each week, but from this point on I reckon Shiel can average 110-115 across the entire season which is why I always wanted him, but just couldn't fit him in rd1, but now Gaz going down makes it possible




Bully

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 15, 2015, 08:18:04 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 15, 2015, 07:19:33 PM
Just has a little play around with the Bont/Shiel combo and boy does my midfield look smokin.

Shiel, Fyfe, Pendles, JPK, Selwood, Bont, Rich, CEY. (Vandenberg, Heeney, Miller)

The defence is a worry though, if Goodes is a no show then this won't be a possibility (but it looks damn impressive for now).

Stick with your original plan otherwise our teams will continue to be too similar :P

If Smith doesn't play I'll wait for him but if Goodes and Smith are named I will pick up Shiel, can't risk Goodes being sub again, it will effectively mean Smith becomes unobtainable. My destiny is in the hands of the selectors.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Bully on April 15, 2015, 08:28:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 15, 2015, 08:18:04 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 15, 2015, 07:19:33 PM
Just has a little play around with the Bont/Shiel combo and boy does my midfield look smokin.

Shiel, Fyfe, Pendles, JPK, Selwood, Bont, Rich, CEY. (Vandenberg, Heeney, Miller)

The defence is a worry though, if Goodes is a no show then this won't be a possibility (but it looks damn impressive for now).

Stick with your original plan otherwise our teams will continue to be too similar :P

If Smith doesn't play I'll wait for him but if Goodes and Smith are named I will pick up Shiel, can't risk Goodes being sub again, it will effectively mean Smith becomes unobtainable. My destiny is in the hands of the selectors.

Smith will get named. It's just a matter of whether he will be a late out or not

Bully

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 15, 2015, 08:40:37 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 15, 2015, 08:28:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 15, 2015, 08:18:04 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 15, 2015, 07:19:33 PM
Just has a little play around with the Bont/Shiel combo and boy does my midfield look smokin.

Shiel, Fyfe, Pendles, JPK, Selwood, Bont, Rich, CEY. (Vandenberg, Heeney, Miller)

The defence is a worry though, if Goodes is a no show then this won't be a possibility (but it looks damn impressive for now).

Stick with your original plan otherwise our teams will continue to be too similar :P

If Smith doesn't play I'll wait for him but if Goodes and Smith are named I will pick up Shiel, can't risk Goodes being sub again, it will effectively mean Smith becomes unobtainable. My destiny is in the hands of the selectors.

Smith will get named. It's just a matter of whether he will be a late out or not

Adelaide play early Saturday, will hold off all trades until 90 minutes before the game.