You Dont win the 50k Playing It Safe

Started by Desired7, April 10, 2015, 12:23:24 PM

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Desired7

Thinking about going Lids - Taylor Adams, he can win the contested ball, lack of collingwood mids giving him more of an oppurtunity to improve on his scoring for the next 6-7 weeks and could pull out premo scores, im willing to take the punt and will leave me with an extra 180k to add onto my 150k for an upgrade if cripps doesnt perform or in round 4-5 and get and early extra premo in.

thoughts guys

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Bully

I can understand trading Lids due to the injury concerns but why take a risk on a guy who may not be a keeper? Adams is coming off 3 seasons in the 70's, it's a massive jump to get to 100.

Desired7

i dnt see adams being a keeper but with hardwick saying after the game that it was always the plan to sub lids out, i can just see it happening more than once which can hurt me later on, so with adams i think he will be used a quick stepping stone to a fallen premo like gaz or selwood who i dont have in my side based on the facted that i saw selwood not scoring high in first few rounds and ablett because of his injury, and if adams can pump out anything from 90 and above for the next 6-7 weeks that would be a valid option, anything he scores over 90 is just extra rewards

Bully

Quote from: Desired7 on April 10, 2015, 12:38:54 PM
i dnt see adams being a keeper but with hardwick saying after the game that it was always the plan to sub lids out, i can just see it happening more than once which can hurt me later on, so with adams i think he will be used a quick stepping stone to a fallen premo like gaz or selwood who i dont have in my side based on the facted that i saw selwood not scoring high in first few rounds and ablett because of his injury, and if adams can pump out anything from 90 and above for the next 6-7 weeks that would be a valid option, anything he scores over 90 is just extra rewards

Would rather Bonetempelli who has shown he can ton up pretty easily. Adams has been in the system 4 years now and has shown little improvement, he may raise the bar to 80-85 but he isn't a stepping stone, these are guys who can put on a quick 150k. If you get rid of Lids then get a proven premo in or get Bonts, that would be my advice.

Colty

I started with Adams, ive got a feeling tis going to be my best pick now that Sidey has gone down. He is going to be at the centre bounce lots, he certainly wont attract any attention either, he is a proven ball winner and I reckon its his time to shine. 100+ for the next 2 months, there I said it!!!

Colty

Quote from: Bully on April 10, 2015, 12:45:23 PM
Quote from: Desired7 on April 10, 2015, 12:38:54 PM
i dnt see adams being a keeper but with hardwick saying after the game that it was always the plan to sub lids out, i can just see it happening more than once which can hurt me later on, so with adams i think he will be used a quick stepping stone to a fallen premo like gaz or selwood who i dont have in my side based on the facted that i saw selwood not scoring high in first few rounds and ablett because of his injury, and if adams can pump out anything from 90 and above for the next 6-7 weeks that would be a valid option, anything he scores over 90 is just extra rewards

Would rather Bonetempelli who has shown he can ton up pretty easily. Adams has been in the system 4 years now and has shown little improvement, he may raise the bar to 80-85 but he isn't a stepping stone, these are guys who can put on a quick 150k. If you get rid of Lids then get a proven premo in or get Bonts, that would be my advice.
NOt sold on Bonts, got shut down for a half by a half fit Selwood, hes going to have some very quiet days.

j959

i don't like it because you're going from a 'premium' down to a mid-pricer - unless you're sold on Adams being a keeper for the year and you're replacing Delids as you predict he's not going to be able to produce premium type scoring for the season ... I don't think that's what you're thinking and that's why it seems a bit knee-jerk ...

you're initial post indicates that you're effectively going to be sideways trading to another premium yeah??

Adams might be good for a period, but it could be because Greenwood, Sidebum, etc etc are out??

I do accept that you don't win it all by playing safe, but going from a premo down to a mid-pricer is generally going to be a low probability play imo ...  you might jag it, but you might also win lotto!  ;)

Desired7

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Quote from: j959 on April 10, 2015, 12:54:14 PM
i don't like it because you're going from a 'premium' down to a mid-pricer - unless you're sold on Adams being a keeper for the year and you're replacing Delids as you predict he's not going to be able to produce premium type scoring for the season ... I don't think that's what you're thinking and that's why it seems a bit knee-jerk ...

you're initial post indicates that you're effectively going to be sideways trading to another premium yeah??

Adams might be good for a period, but it could be because Greenwood, Sidebum, etc etc are out??

I do accept that you don't win it all by playing safe, but going from a premo down to a mid-pricer is generally going to be a low probability play imo ...  you might jag it, but you might also win lotto!  ;)

ye mates its pretty much risk vs reward, his shown he can win the contested ball, and with sidebottom and greenwood down, i have seen a oppurtunity for him to improve his scores untill they return, if i had somene with dpp in the mids i would of traded lids to a premo, but at this stage i have gray swan bennel atm in the fwd line and the other premo fwds like harvey, goddard martin have scored quite low and will drop in price so i think holding adams untill bye round or round 7 or round 8 would be fine, not sold on bonts consistency either. i guess this moves favours the brave and I am one of them.

previous years, started malceski round1 over mcveigh, jacobs at 480k was owned by 3% start of year, and my famous trade in of carlisle first week 90, second week 155 thrid week 188, risky, but the reward was out of this world

j959

Quote from: Desired7 on April 10, 2015, 01:02:14 PM
Quote from: j959 on April 10, 2015, 12:54:14 PM
i don't like it because you're going from a 'premium' down to a mid-pricer - unless you're sold on Adams being a keeper for the year and you're replacing Delids as you predict he's not going to be able to produce premium type scoring for the season ... I don't think that's what you're thinking and that's why it seems a bit knee-jerk ...

you're initial post indicates that you're effectively going to be sideways trading to another premium yeah??

Adams might be good for a period, but it could be because Greenwood, Sidebum, etc etc are out??

I do accept that you don't win it all by playing safe, but going from a premo down to a mid-pricer is generally going to be a low probability play imo ...  you might jag it, but you might also win lotto!  ;)

ye mates its pretty much risk vs reward, his shown he can win the contested ball, and with sidebottom and greenwood down, i have seen a oppurtunity for him to improve his scores untill they return, if i had somene with dpp in the mids i would of traded lids to a premo, but at this stage the i have gray swan bennel atm in the fwd line and the other premo fwds have see to score quite low and will drop in price so i think holding adams untill bye round or round 7 or round 8 would be fine, not sold on bonts consistency either. i guess this moves is for the brave and i am one of those

previous years, started malceski round1 over mcveigh, jacobs at 480k was owned by 3% start of year, and my famous trade in of carlisle first week 90, second week 155 thrid week 188, risky, but the reward was out of this world
not trying to be argumentative but you're exhibiting 'hindsight bias' ...

I get that it is risk reward but you're basically saying you're going to blow two trades - ie get Adams now for Delids then trade Adams out in rds 7-8 ...  ???    :P    :-X    ;)

starting with different mid-pricers is not the same thing as trading a premo down to a mid-pricer - for this query for yourself you disregard Malceski, Jacobs and Carlisle if you didn't keep him after you traded him in - do you get my point?  ;)

Desired7

Quote from: j959 on April 10, 2015, 01:06:01 PM
Quote from: Desired7 on April 10, 2015, 01:02:14 PM
Quote from: j959 on April 10, 2015, 12:54:14 PM
i don't like it because you're going from a 'premium' down to a mid-pricer - unless you're sold on Adams being a keeper for the year and you're replacing Delids as you predict he's not going to be able to produce premium type scoring for the season ... I don't think that's what you're thinking and that's why it seems a bit knee-jerk ...

you're initial post indicates that you're effectively going to be sideways trading to another premium yeah??

Adams might be good for a period, but it could be because Greenwood, Sidebum, etc etc are out??

I do accept that you don't win it all by playing safe, but going from a premo down to a mid-pricer is generally going to be a low probability play imo ...  you might jag it, but you might also win lotto!  ;)

ye mates its pretty much risk vs reward, his shown he can win the contested ball, and with sidebottom and greenwood down, i have seen a oppurtunity for him to improve his scores untill they return, if i had somene with dpp in the mids i would of traded lids to a premo, but at this stage the i have gray swan bennel atm in the fwd line and the other premo fwds have see to score quite low and will drop in price so i think holding adams untill bye round or round 7 or round 8 would be fine, not sold on bonts consistency either. i guess this moves is for the brave and i am one of those

previous years, started malceski round1 over mcveigh, jacobs at 480k was owned by 3% start of year, and my famous trade in of carlisle first week 90, second week 155 thrid week 188, risky, but the reward was out of this world
not trying to be argumentative but you're exhibiting 'hindsight bias' ...

I get that it is risk reward but you're basically saying you're going to blow two trades - ie get Adams now for Delids then trade Adams out in rds 7-8 ...  ???    :P    :-X    ;)

starting with different mid-pricers is not the same thing as trading a premo down to a mid-pricer - for this query for yourself you disregard Malceski, Jacobs and Carlisle if you didn't keep him after you traded him in - do you get my point?  ;)

ye exactly understand where your coming from my friend, but i guess i believe that adams can average high 90s untill i can make my decision on the right fwd premo to bring in, and who knows may sit at f7 or m9 and be that swing man with for backup. so its not out of the question for him to be a keeper.

j959

Quote from: Desired7 on April 10, 2015, 01:08:12 PM
Quote from: j959 on April 10, 2015, 01:06:01 PM
Quote from: Desired7 on April 10, 2015, 01:02:14 PM
Quote from: j959 on April 10, 2015, 12:54:14 PM
i don't like it because you're going from a 'premium' down to a mid-pricer - unless you're sold on Adams being a keeper for the year and you're replacing Delids as you predict he's not going to be able to produce premium type scoring for the season ... I don't think that's what you're thinking and that's why it seems a bit knee-jerk ...

you're initial post indicates that you're effectively going to be sideways trading to another premium yeah??

Adams might be good for a period, but it could be because Greenwood, Sidebum, etc etc are out??

I do accept that you don't win it all by playing safe, but going from a premo down to a mid-pricer is generally going to be a low probability play imo ...  you might jag it, but you might also win lotto!  ;)

ye mates its pretty much risk vs reward, his shown he can win the contested ball, and with sidebottom and greenwood down, i have seen a oppurtunity for him to improve his scores untill they return, if i had somene with dpp in the mids i would of traded lids to a premo, but at this stage the i have gray swan bennel atm in the fwd line and the other premo fwds have see to score quite low and will drop in price so i think holding adams untill bye round or round 7 or round 8 would be fine, not sold on bonts consistency either. i guess this moves is for the brave and i am one of those

previous years, started malceski round1 over mcveigh, jacobs at 480k was owned by 3% start of year, and my famous trade in of carlisle first week 90, second week 155 thrid week 188, risky, but the reward was out of this world
not trying to be argumentative but you're exhibiting 'hindsight bias' ...

I get that it is risk reward but you're basically saying you're going to blow two trades - ie get Adams now for Delids then trade Adams out in rds 7-8 ...  ???    :P    :-X    ;)

starting with different mid-pricers is not the same thing as trading a premo down to a mid-pricer - for this query for yourself you disregard Malceski, Jacobs and Carlisle if you didn't keep him after you traded him in - do you get my point?  ;)

ye exactly understand where your coming from my friend, but i guess i believe that adams can average high 90s untill i can make my decision on the right fwd premo to bring in, and who knows may sit at f7 or m9 and be that swing man with for backup. so its not out of the question for him to be a keeper.
ok, so that's fine if you're selecting him as a keeper - but that is the risk you're taking (ie that he will become a keeper) ...

if you're bringing him in only to get him out later, that's a low % play imo ...  ;)

Desired7

Quoteok, so that's fine if you're selecting him as a keeper - but that is the risk you're taking (ie that he will become a keeper) ...

if you're bringing him in only to get him out later, that's a low % play imo ...  ;)

yes but if it means i gain points during the next 6-7 weeks and gain cash generation for a easy upgrade when players return,  however i feel that adams would be one of the last to be upgraded so untill that last spot is needed to be filled in the mids and fwd line. unless a sudden drop in price is coming or his points are decreasing.

PICCOLLO


meow meow

You don't win the 50k by running out of trades.