Blues 2016 H&A Discussion

[Mat0369]

I'll eat my hat if anyone wants Armfield haha

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Both solid depth players and probably only get games if injury strikes in a finals side, nothing more really. Dennis is too old and White has the knee issue. Both never really performed better then they did in 2011-early 2012, like most of the guys on the list and went backwards under Mick. Still, at there best they were just role players. They both had reasonable form when Barker took over, but other then being list cloggers I can't see anything else. I think White stays around at least 1 more year just for key position depth, Dennis is probably unfortunately done, but being honest he probably hasn't performed any worse then Daisy and comes at a 10th of the price. Unfortunately one is out of contract (Dennis) and the other still has 3 years left.

[elephants]

Hate to bring this up but if Armfield is cut how bad does this look...

Judd + Armfield
For
Kennedy + Masten

Sorry :p

[Mat0369]

Dennis was a mature age pick at 46. You guys also wasted pick 20 in that deal on Tony Notte (who?). Thing is Judd also managed to win a bunch of B&F's, a Brownlow and was still arguably the best player in the comp in that 4 year period. Yeah it sucks we lost Kennedy, but Judd was still a god.

[ossie85]

Dennis was a mature age pick at 46. You guys also wasted pick 20 in that deal on Tony Notte (who?). Thing is Judd also managed to win a bunch of B&F's, a Brownlow and was still arguably the best player in the comp in that 4 year period. Yeah it sucks we lost Kennedy, but Judd was still a god.

Judd performed god-like for Carlton, that is true..

... but ultimately he was recruited so that Carlton would have success. That didn't happen. Not saying that that was the trade's fault, it just didn't happen.

[Mat0369]

Part of that was taking a team that had finished last, last and 2nd last in the three seasons prior to him arriving at the club. If Carlton were going to win a premiership, it looked to be on the back of a Judd/Fev combo, we traded Fev 2 years into this and then in 2011 they were a kick out of a prelim (which a free should have been paid to Andrew Walker in the goal square since Glass was all over him).

We had significant injuries that decimated the list in 2012 which resulted in giving the board an excuse to sack Ratts. Pretty much we had a bunch of recruiting blunders from just before 2011 (Lucas over Talia, Grigg for Collins) through to our last offseason (Hi Liam Jones), a board that thought sacking Ratten for Malthouse would be a genius idea and we were constantly losing players that carried this team with no development underneath them for the last 3 seasons.

To say that Judd didn't have some form of success at the club is a pretty narrow viewed approach, we didn't achieve the ultimate goal, but then again, neither did 17 other teams each year. To go from where we were in 07, to where we were heading in 2011, it was huge and it was on the back of Chris Judd. Unfortunately at the end of 2012 we made a series of really f'ing stupid decisions (which I called then) that have backfired and lead to this situation.

[Mat0369]

So now that West Coast lost, do Hawthorn not play the Box Hill Hawks against us? West Coast are likely to beat the Saints, but if they somehow lose, the Hawks can finish 2nd.

[fanTCfool]

Curnow Re-Signs for 2 Years
Love this man, glad to see he is staying loyal to the blues.
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2015-08-31/curnow-inks-new-deal

[fanTCfool]

Docherty underwent Hip Surgery today, which will obviously put an end to his great year.
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2015-08-31/bioglan-injury-update-round-23

[blue]

So now that West Coast lost, do Hawthorn not play the Box Hill Hawks against us? West Coast are likely to beat the Saints, but if they somehow lose, the Hawks can finish 2nd.

The way we are traveling the box hill reserves will beat us. Good to see curnow sign, one guy that gives 100% every week

[RaisyDaisy]

Carrots retiring

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-01/blues-veteran-carrazzo-calls-it-quits

[RiOtChEsS]

with Bell wanting to go to the Lions, this is who we'd like in return ;)
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/brisbane-lion-jack-redden-has-informed-club-of-intentions-to-seek-trade/story-e6frf3e3-1227508206611

[fanTCfool]

Everitt has contract extended
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2015-09-02/everitts-contract-extended

Come into his own this year, here's hoping he can build on this form for next year, and this form can become a regularity.

[ossie85]

As a Pies man, feel I need to congratulate Carlton on 4th spoon in 14 years. Good effort :)

[kilbluff1985]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-looks-set-to-farewell-matthew-kreuzer-as-it-searches-for-a-draft-bounty/story-fnp04d70-1227514452373

[blue]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-looks-set-to-farewell-matthew-kreuzer-as-it-searches-for-a-draft-bounty/story-fnp04d70-1227514452373

Have not looked at the link yet. But please tell me it's not true