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Blues 2016 H&A Discussion

Started by Vinny, April 01, 2015, 06:22:24 PM

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Mat0369

I have posted my thoughts many times since Mick has been signed up. I am not going to bother to post the same thing every week since I will just sound like a broken record.

I am looking forward to the offseason to see what SOS is going to do with the list and who he targets. We will have a fresh coaching staff so I will be curious to see the people we bring in to try and develop these kids. I think fitness, medicos and conditioning should also be a top priority, I am curious to see if we target anyone in that area because we haven't had much luck recently.

Ricochet

Quote from: Mat0369 on May 24, 2015, 01:35:10 AM
I am looking forward to the offseason to see what SOS is going to do with the list and who he targets.
As an outsider I'm also very interested mate. Just the thought of him coming in and turning over the list is exciting

Mat0369

Quote from: Ricochet on May 24, 2015, 11:01:05 AM
As an outsider I'm also very interested mate. Just the thought of him coming in and turning over the list is exciting

Yup, add in the fact that everyone has been complimenting the GWS list build which he played a big part in creating as their list manager (obviously the concessions help) and a few potential father son picks in Rice, Bradley and Silvagni, it should be a fun offseason

Mat0369

There was talk of a possible board meeting tonight

powersuperkents

Quote from: Mat0369 on May 23, 2015, 02:00:08 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on May 23, 2015, 01:55:26 PM
Why would he need to do recon though  :P

Not to be offensive but I wouldn't even worry about that game if I were Sydney (an easy 80 point win imo)

But yeah I don't think Sydney could get Yarran without giving up a talented player (and they aren't the sort of team that makes these sacrifices). Carlton could get significant value for him, a genuine talent imo (I'd say a 1st round pick is the least they could get)

Regardless of the opposition you have to do your homework. Using Port as an example, they played Brisbane last week and got smashed probably due to complacency. Being in Melbourne you go to the game and watch your opposition, see what Geelong did in the first quarter, check out Carlton's stoppage work, fly back up to Sydney and then smash them by 120 points.
Convinced me with that one sentence. As a power supporter I experienced it first hand. Still can't pinpoint what is happening myself (but this false sense of entitlement the Power players have had is now turning into another extreme, a sense of panic)

Diesels Pups

Quote from: Mat0369 on May 24, 2015, 01:35:10 AM
I have posted my thoughts many times since Mick has been signed up. I am not going to bother to post the same thing every week since I will just sound like a broken record.

I am looking forward to the offseason to see what SOS is going to do with the list and who he targets. We will have a fresh coaching staff so I will be curious to see the people we bring in to try and develop these kids. I think fitness, medicos and conditioning should also be a top priority, I am curious to see if we target anyone in that area because we haven't had much luck recently.
It might start by getting in some good young  key position players, an area we are and have been severely lacking. Missed on Talia, Cam McCarthy etc etc. Hughes and Rodgers were a big fail in my opinion so I too am curious to see what transpires from SOS.

Mat0369

Quote from: powersuperkents on May 24, 2015, 09:47:05 PM
Convinced me with that one sentence. As a power supporter I experienced it first hand. Still can't pinpoint what is happening myself (but this false sense of entitlement the Power players have had is now turning into another extreme, a sense of panic)

Port is a loss against the Dees away from panic stations. It was a close one up there from memory. I know they had the form slump last season but something doesn't seem to be right. I haven't watched their last 3 games so I can't really comment as to what has gone wrong.

Quote from: Diesels Pups on May 24, 2015, 11:33:26 PM
It might start by getting in some good young  key position players, an area we are and have been severely lacking. Missed on Talia, Cam McCarthy etc etc. Hughes and Rodgers were a big fail in my opinion so I too am curious to see what transpires from SOS.

I just want some A grade talent to come in. We need to build a new core over the next two drafts and trade periods. Even if we go midfield heavy, FA is going to help in terms of KPP's and rucks. Obviously the clubs like GWS and GC are the ones you want to target as they have a bunch of young guys but can't hang onto all of them.

GC for example have a ton of young key position talent. They won't part with Lynch, Wright, May and Thompson, but guys like Tape as a third tall, Dixon although he is injury prone, Sam Day who has played both ends but is getting squeezed out, one of Smith, Gorringe or Nicholls in the ruck. If we can get them for good value you think we might make a move

GWS have a crap load of mids coming out of contract, one of Treloar or Shiel would be a huge coup.

Bringing these guys in is not a band aid, they are in that 21-24 bracket, as long as we use our picks well we should be right. No more of these Jones, Tutt and Daisy type pick ups

RiOtChEsS

It just hurts so much to see the club in such disarray, it seems so bad that i cant see a way out of it because there is just to much wrong with what is going on, the players hearts are flat out not in it, when they say they want Mick to coach and all the cliche's it just makes it worse, they are delusional, there is no connection between the words and the effort, feels like the whole club are delusional to be honest, the only people that arent are the fans.

In all honesty we should look to trade everyone, whoever we can get good value for should be moved on, after playing with this sort of disconnect between words and efforts we could wind up like Melbourne, there was a disconnected culture at Melbourne that is only just being weeded out now, that hung around for years though, i dont want that to happen to Carlton.

blue

Quote from: Mat0369 on May 24, 2015, 01:35:10 AM
I have posted my thoughts many times since Mick has been signed up. I am not going to bother to post the same thing every week since I will just sound like a broken record.

I am looking forward to the offseason to see what SOS is going to do with the list and who he targets. We will have a fresh coaching staff so I will be curious to see the people we bring in to try and develop these kids. I think fitness, medicos and conditioning should also be a top priority, I am curious to see if we target anyone in that area because we haven't had much luck recently.

Do you think sos had any imput in to the recruitment of jaksch and Whiley

powersuperkents

Quote from: blue on May 25, 2015, 03:35:36 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 24, 2015, 01:35:10 AM
I have posted my thoughts many times since Mick has been signed up. I am not going to bother to post the same thing every week since I will just sound like a broken record.

I am looking forward to the offseason to see what SOS is going to do with the list and who he targets. We will have a fresh coaching staff so I will be curious to see the people we bring in to try and develop these kids. I think fitness, medicos and conditioning should also be a top priority, I am curious to see if we target anyone in that area because we haven't had much luck recently.

Do you think sos had any imput in to the recruitment of jaksch and Whiley
Jaksch needs to be played up forward

Whiley needs to go free in the midfield, not tagging

Two quality players. Regarding them, the problem is not recruiting, it's Malthause

Mat0369

Quote from: blue on May 25, 2015, 03:35:36 PM
Do you think sos had any imput in to the recruitment of jaksch and Whiley

SOS signed after the trade and draft period last offseason.

LF

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-25/blues-to-make-call-on-malthouses-future-during-the-bye-week-in-round-11

CARLTON has conceded constant speculation over Mick Malthouse's tenure is taking a toll on the club and will now make a call on the coach's future in the week of the club's round 11 bye.

Club president Mark LoGiudice had repeatedly said  the Blues would make a decision on the out-of-contract Malthouse in the second half of this season.

But in a letter to club members on Monday afternoon, LoGiudice said speculation over the three-time premiership coach's future had prompted the club to revise its timeframe.

"The position of senior coach is one that we have consistently said would be reviewed in the second-half of the season. That had always been the club’s intention, however, we now believe it is in the best interests of our football club to alter our timeline," LoGiudice said.

"Our CEO, Steven Trigg, and myself met with Mick Malthouse today, and agreed that in the best interests of the club, we would make a decision on the future direction of our senior coaching position in the week of the bye, which is round 11.

"Mick supports our revised timeline and has again committed to stay the course.

powersuperkents

Quote from: Mat0369 on May 25, 2015, 04:34:45 PM
Quote from: blue on May 25, 2015, 03:35:36 PM
Do you think sos had any imput in to the recruitment of jaksch and Whiley

SOS signed after the trade and draft period last offseason.
Makes sense, the guy responsible for the Saints premiership run and the talent of GWS would never recruit Liam Jones  :P

Mat0369

I wasn't too sure on the Trigg hiring based on the salary cap stuff going on at the Crows and the stigma we still had as a club, but I have to say he is impressed me in the last week with the way he has spoken and handled all the pressure. It looks like the club made the right decision in appointing him.

RiOtChEsS

at least this sideshow will be over sooner rather than later, if the same type of effort keeps getting dished up by the players who knows where we go, hopefully this change stimulates some competitiveness