The Bellchambers Dillemna

Started by jason2929, March 31, 2015, 03:44:05 PM

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jason2929

Tossing up the spots of F4, R2 and M4.

In picking Bellchambers, would that allow me to also pick Nic Nat? Who, with cover, offers much higher reward than Maric?

What's everyone's thoughts on Bontempelli and Griffin's potential rises in scoring output?

Any feedback and justification would be great. Thanks in advance!  :D

GoLions

Beams >>> Griffen
With Belly as cover, NicNat > Maric
And then Bont will slightly outscore Belly, but doesn't provide ruck cover, and is at that range of in between a keeper and cash cow IMO. Whereas Belly should make 100k or so and can then either be kept for cover or easily upgraded without it seeming like a waste of a trade.

jason2929

Quote from: GoLions on March 31, 2015, 04:00:10 PM
Beams >>> Griffen
With Belly as cover, NicNat > Maric
And then Bont will slightly outscore Belly, but doesn't provide ruck cover, and is at that range of in between a keeper and cash cow IMO. Whereas Belly should make 100k or so and can then either be kept for cover or easily upgraded without it seeming like a waste of a trade.

Love the feedback, thankyou!

Agree, I feel like with Belly there, I can afford to have Nic Nat average 110 across 17-19 games, while keeping Bellchambers there as a genuine mid-pricer? Although I am a little sceptical of Belly's scoring ability, could be a few stinkers if Giles plays. Is that a concern?

GoLions

Quote from: jason2929 on March 31, 2015, 04:03:53 PM
Quote from: GoLions on March 31, 2015, 04:00:10 PM
Beams >>> Griffen
With Belly as cover, NicNat > Maric
And then Bont will slightly outscore Belly, but doesn't provide ruck cover, and is at that range of in between a keeper and cash cow IMO. Whereas Belly should make 100k or so and can then either be kept for cover or easily upgraded without it seeming like a waste of a trade.

Love the feedback, thankyou!

Agree, I feel like with Belly there, I can afford to have Nic Nat average 110 across 17-19 games, while keeping Bellchambers there as a genuine mid-pricer? Although I am a little sceptical of Belly's scoring ability, could be a few stinkers if Giles plays. Is that a concern?
Is Belly in your rucks or forward line? If in your rucks, then sooner or later you're gonna want someone like Jacobs or Goldy at R2. So either trade a forward rookie, sub Belly forward, get the premo ruck; or just upgrade Belly. If he's in your forward line then you can either keep him as cover all season, or upgrade him to a premium forward perhaps after (or during) the byes.

Giles doesn't concern me.

Jimmykidd

#4
in regards to keeping him or getting rid of him it comes down to where he is (r2 or f4) and how well he is going. Just have to wait and see

hawkboy80

I have belly at F4 as cover for nicnat, if nicnat get thru 6-7 rounds then  he should be right and i expect to upgrade belly

Ricochet

Quote from: GoLions on March 31, 2015, 04:00:10 PM
Beams >>> Griffen
With Belly as cover, NicNat > Maric
And then Bont will slightly outscore Belly, but doesn't provide ruck cover, and is at that range of in between a keeper and cash cow IMO. Whereas Belly should make 100k or so and can then either be kept for cover or easily upgraded without it seeming like a waste of a trade.
What GL said.

Keeper27

but none of you's are even going to keep belly after the byes anyways.
so he'll only be cover for 10 rnds (if he lasts that long) and then what happens after no cover??

i just reckon he'll let a lot of coaches down. he'll go 80 max make a 130K.
a rookie could and would have made more money by then.
sure they aren't ruck cover but most of you's aren't even going to hold on to TBC after the byes anyways so whats it matter.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Keeper27 on April 01, 2015, 02:40:12 PM
but none of you's are even going to keep belly after the byes anyways.
so he'll only be cover for 10 rnds (if he lasts that long) and then what happens after no cover??

i just reckon he'll let a lot of coaches down. he'll go 80 max make a 130K.
a rookie could and would have made more money by then.
sure they aren't ruck cover but most of you's aren't even going to hold on to TBC after the byes anyways so whats it matter.

A lot of people are planning on making him F7 to provide cover all year

If I did upgrade him eventually, say after the byes, then at least I had cover for the first half of the season and didn't have to waste a single trade in the rucks, so I'll back in my 2 premo's for the 2nd half of the season and even if I have to use a trade it will be the first one anyway

Bully

Quote from: Keeper27 on April 01, 2015, 02:40:12 PM
sure they aren't ruck cover but most of you's aren't even going to hold on to TBC after the byes anyways so whats it matter.

I plan on upgrading him to Ryder at some stage.

Gigantor

Quote from: Bully on April 01, 2015, 02:43:03 PM
Quote from: Keeper27 on April 01, 2015, 02:40:12 PM
sure they aren't ruck cover but most of you's aren't even going to hold on to TBC after the byes anyways so whats it matter.

I plan on upgrading him to Ryder at some stage.
Will also keep an eye on Zac Clarke, he will be taking on a larger ruck role this year as Sandi spends more time forward.
Lycett as well though he will have to do something pretty special to hold down a F6 spot in my team.

Bully

Quote from: Gigantor on April 01, 2015, 02:47:50 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 01, 2015, 02:43:03 PM
Quote from: Keeper27 on April 01, 2015, 02:40:12 PM
sure they aren't ruck cover but most of you's aren't even going to hold on to TBC after the byes anyways so whats it matter.

I plan on upgrading him to Ryder at some stage.
Will also keep an eye on Zac Clarke, he will be taking on a larger ruck role this year as Sandi spends more time forward.
Lycett as well though he will have to do something pretty special to hold down a F6 spot in my team.

Yes, Clarke is an interesting one, has proven to be a great scorer when sole ruckman. Could be anyone at this stage, particularly when Ryder will be competing with Lobbe.

Gigantor

Quote from: Bully on April 01, 2015, 02:50:31 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on April 01, 2015, 02:47:50 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 01, 2015, 02:43:03 PM
Quote from: Keeper27 on April 01, 2015, 02:40:12 PM
sure they aren't ruck cover but most of you's aren't even going to hold on to TBC after the byes anyways so whats it matter.

I plan on upgrading him to Ryder at some stage.
Will also keep an eye on Zac Clarke, he will be taking on a larger ruck role this year as Sandi spends more time forward.
Lycett as well though he will have to do something pretty special to hold down a F6 spot in my team.
How low a score from Fwd/Ruc F6 would you accept? I was thinking if I have 5 other premos on 100+ I would be happy with anything in the 90's if it gave me ruck coverage piece of mind
Secondly what about burning a trade if a solid Ruck rookie becomes available? I'm very reluctant to trade out a rook who has made no money but it could be worth it at R3 this year.
Yes, Clarke is an interesting one, has proven to be a great scorer when sole ruckman. Could be anyone at this stage, particularly when Ryder will be competing with Lobbe.

petefisker

As soon as it was announced i had Belly back at R2  8)
Primary dons ruck, cheap and and i get to scream get in my Belly heaps more now.

But mainly:
I cant get Belly into my forward line as I dont wona sacrifice the structure, the current cash making rookies and stars I have down there. Happy to take the punt on naismith, o'brien or downie/phillips getting a gig for cover.

Bully

I think F6 would need to be 100+ but then again, he could be F7 if one can make a seamless transition with the use of a solitary trade. Hopefully Ryder, Clarke or Lycett dip a little at some stage and the decision becomes an easy one.