2015 finals

[Grazz]

Need and should do a Ross Lyon this week and tank the dead rubber. Rest as many as possible against the Tigers this week, because your only risking injury and probably playing the Tigers in the first final.

I guess getting a win on the team your playing the week after is a factor too. Saying that going full strength and losing would be terrible. At least if you mass rest and lose you can say you were resting.

The AFL have screwed up allowing clubs to rest mass players, I understand the Freo case as it changes nothing in the 8 or outside it but I dont agree with it just the same. North resting so many is another kettle of fish though it will change who plays and where and it seems my Crows will be the victims of that and thats wrong in my opinion not just because it's my club it could be any club but it's still wrong and there is meant to be a rule to stop this.

Let me be clear i'm not dirty at North because the AFL have allowed it so why wouldn't you rest as many as you want but I certainly think North would rather play the Tigers in Melbourne week 1 than travel to Adelaide to play us, your record against the Tigers is pretty good and in Adelaide I reckon we'd roll your mob and now what stops the Roo's from going out there and roughing up the Tigers turning them black and blue and very sore for the first final. I don't expect any sympathy from anyone but the Crows have potentially been screwed here by the AFL and the legitimacy of the finals has been tampered with.
Rules are rules and should enforced otherwise why have them, personally i'd rather see the top 8 all have a week off before
the commencement of finals to stop this happening.

[Holz]

Need and should do a Ross Lyon this week and tank the dead rubber. Rest as many as possible against the Tigers this week, because your only risking injury and probably playing the Tigers in the first final.

I guess getting a win on the team your playing the week after is a factor too. Saying that going full strength and losing would be terrible. At least if you mass rest and lose you can say you were resting.

The AFL have screwed up allowing clubs to rest mass players, I understand the Freo case as it changes nothing in the 8 or outside it but I dont agree with it just the same. North resting so many is another kettle of fish though it will change who plays and where and it seems my Crows will be the victims of that and thats wrong in my opinion not just because it's my club it could be any club but it's still wrong and there is meant to be a rule to stop this.

Let me be clear i'm not dirty at North because the AFL have allowed it so why wouldn't you rest as many as you want but I certainly think North would rather play the Tigers in Melbourne week 1 than travel to Adelaide to play us, your record against the Tigers is pretty good and in Adelaide I reckon we'd roll your mob and now what stops the Roo's from going out there and roughing up the Tigers turning them black and blue and very sore for the first final. I don't expect any sympathy from anyone but the Crows have potentially been screwed here by the AFL and the legitimacy of the finals has been tampered with.
Rules are rules and should enforced otherwise why have them, personally i'd rather see the top 8 all have a week off before
the commencement of finals to stop this happening.

I dont disagree with your sentiments and i think its smart by north. Not because they dont want to play adeliade but because they will play either Richmond or Dogs next week (Dogs wont lose)

So why not rest your best players and rough up your possible opponent next week.

In terms of Adelaide, don't put yourself in a position where you need to rely on other teams to win for you.

[Toga]

So why not rest your best players and rough up your possible opponent next week.

Because that would be dog. Seriously dog.

[Holz]

So why not rest your best players and rough up your possible opponent next week.

Because that would be dog. Seriously dog.

im not saying go out throwing punches. But you can certainly play hard and go all out knowing you can sit down next week and watch in the stands.

[Grazz]

As i said Holz I dont blame North for doing it because the AFL have allowed it which I strongly disagree with because there is a rule in place to stop this.

By allowing North to do it they are also allowing North to tamper with where they finish and who they play in week 1 of finals, you can't tell me you'd want to come to Adelaide and play us at home in the form we are in you'd much rather stay in Melbourne and play the Tigers who you have a great record against recently. I think that has as much to do with what Scott is doing as much as giving some of your blokes a rest, he kills two birds with one stone here.

It's got flower all to do with not relying on teams to win for us at all it's about the legitimacy of the final 8 and the rules.
May I remind you we finished higher than you but because the AFL have chosen to allow you to do what your doing your going to potentially get a home final you don't deserve or earnt the right to have, thats the bottom line.
As i said I don't want your sympathy and doubt i'd get any from you anyway in this situation but to be fair I do expect honesty
and realism when discussing it. Remember the shoe could be on the other foot one day and it could be your mob getting shafted instead of us. Good for you the AFL have allowed you to have something you haven't earnt and screwed a club that potentially after round 23 has, yep thats 100% fair and legit, pigs bum it is.

So why not rest your best players and rough up your possible opponent next week.

Because that would be dog. Seriously dog.

im not saying go out throwing punches. But you can certainly play hard and go all out knowing you can sit down next week and watch in the stands.

And how is that fair on the Tigers who I failed to mention are the 2nd club getting shafted by the AFL's decision. Certain Roo's players can go as hard as they like at the Tigers and have no concern about next week, hell they can get reported and have no concerns whereas the Tigers have to try to win while protecting themselves and their health for finals surely you can see our point, you blokes finished 8th you deserve nothing in reality but have been handed a massive advantage here and thats to put it bluntly tampering for which there is a rule to stop this but has been ignored.
As said I dont blame North I blame the AFL for allowing it, if I was North i'd do the same and hurt the Tigers as much as possible so when you potentially front up against them in week 1 you have a big advantage and thats just wrong wrong wrong no matter how you dress it or defend it it's simply wrong and very unfair you have to admit that otherwise your simply not being honest with us Holz.

[Holz]

It is unfair,

Im just saying that North arent doing this to avoid playing Adelaide. Dogs should crush the lions so basically its do we play Richmond or Dogs and honestly I dont think North care they are both incredibly similar.

So why not rest, maybe knock the tigers around.

It is unfair to the crows in the sense that it basically determines if they play the dogs in Melbourne or If the play Richmond in Adelaide.

North are not manipulating the system to pick their opponent though, they are putting themselves in a better postion to win next week. Richmond in some sense are disadvantaged but also if North do beat them then they would have to play Adealide in Adeliade probably and as you said they dont want to do that.

For north to play Adealide

North need to beat Richmond
Lions need to beat dogs
Adealide need to beat gellong.

thats not happening.

[tbagrocks]

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[Grazz]

It is unfair,

Im just saying that North arent doing this to avoid playing Adelaide. Dogs should crush the lions so basically its do we play Richmond or Dogs and honestly I dont think North care they are both incredibly similar.

So why not rest, maybe knock the tigers around.

It is unfair to the crows in the sense that it basically determines if they play the dogs in Melbourne or If the play Richmond in Adelaide.

North are not manipulating the system to pick their opponent though, they are putting themselves in a better postion to win next week. Richmond in some sense are disadvantaged but also if North do beat them then they would have to play Adealide in Adeliade probably and as you said they dont want to do that.

For north to play Adealide

North need to beat Richmond
Lions need to beat dogs
Adealide need to beat gellong.

thats not happening.

I do agree the odds of us playing North here are slim as the Dogs should account for the Lions without to many dramas my issue is the loss of a potential home final for us before round 23 even starts and that you now have opportunity to cripple the Tigers potentially have players reported in the process that would never be playing in finals the week after. My beef is with the AFL mate not the Roo's as it's opened up a massive can of worms. Hell if I was Scott i'd be saying to the players coming in this week go out there and hurt the Tigers as much as humanly possible, why wouldn't you when theres no risk in loosing any of those guys to reports as theyd never get a game in week 1 regardless.

[tbagrocks]

The Rocks ‏@Tbagrocks32  · 4m4 minutes ago 
How many draft picks will North lose for "Tanking" and "Manipulating" The ladder @AFL?

[frenzy]

The Rocks ‏@Tbagrocks32  · 4m4 minutes ago 
How many draft picks will North lose for "Tanking" and "Manipulating" The ladder @AFL?

Zero, ticked off by the AFL, poor Crows been shafted by AFL.

[Jay]

Tanking is purposely losing, North aren't doing that. They just don't have an incentive to win this week, and that's a fact. I don't have a problem with them wanting to rest guys, it makes sense. But the AFL in their own rules say it's illegal to manipulate the ladder position - and this does that. Why are they making rules if they aren't going to enforce them?

[frenzy]

Haha now I reckon Norths tanking and taking the pee.  BOOMER HARVEY STARTING IN THE GREEN VEST. :o

[Holz]

They dont care if they win or lose how is that tanking.

Drafting a guy with potential over a ready made player is technically tanking too.

Yes I just went there.

[Big Mac]

They dont care if they win or lose how is that tanking.

Drafting a guy with potential over a ready made player is technically tanking too.

Yes I just went there.

Is tanking the same as not having winning as your first priority? I don't think so

ftr I don't think North were 'tanking'

[Ziplock]

They dont care if they win or lose how is that tanking.

Drafting a guy with potential over a ready made player is technically tanking too.

Yes I just went there.

Is tanking the same as not having winning as your first priority? I don't think so

ftr I don't think North were 'tanking'

look, they rested a flower ton of players, but I don't think that really constitutes tanking.

We've seen worse calls by the afl though, so who knows :P