Best Midpriced backmen

Started by WizzFizz, March 11, 2015, 02:07:44 PM

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RaisyDaisy

Quote from: bowyanger on March 23, 2015, 09:25:59 PM
Im going for a backline that will resemble a dropped pie

Made me laugh  ;D

Quote from: Bully on March 23, 2015, 09:45:05 PM
By the way, has Goodes been upgraded yet?

Not yet

I will say that since I posted that a few days ago I've even ruled out MacMillian and Jaksch. Goodes is the only cheap option I will take because he is worth the risk, and its a small risk because he is so cheap

4 400k+ defenders plus Goodes, Brown, Saad and McIntosh is looking likely for me at the moment

GCSkiwi

Quote from: bowyanger on March 23, 2015, 09:25:59 PM
Im changing my starting strategy - to hell with the backline
I spend some good coin there and it still looks pretty ordinary

Im going for a backline that will resemble a dropped pie and will be using this thread to get the ingredients - as long as they are not KPP (besides Brown) and are guaranteed to be in the best 22 - theyre in my team

I reckon the money I save and spend elsewhere is going to increase my scoring potential

Im gonna load up my backline with no player > 400K....

See how the season pans out and let the dust settle then work on the backline

Mids, Ruck and especially forwards are just going to score so much better - theres just a much greater potential to get better bang for your buck shall we say

Ive never tried this strat in the 10 years or so Ive played the game but Ive probably never seen the list of backs available look so ordinary either

I toyed with this strategy too but it doesn't look a whole heap better when you consider that you might leave yourself with 6 players needing a cash injection for upgrading, and you've limited your rookie spots in mids and forwards to generate the extra cash to do so... That doesn't account for any of the remaining mids/fwds that might need bumping up. I think you have to pick at least 2 keeper backs which I don't think is too hard to do. The rest I agree is very challenging.

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 23, 2015, 10:29:01 PM
I will say that since I posted that a few days ago I've even ruled out MacMillian and Jaksch. Goodes is the only cheap option I will take because he is worth the risk, and its a small risk because he is so cheap

Mind if I ask why you've discounted Jaksch RD? Good NAB performances, never really got a decent run at GWS with lots of vests but pretty good performances there too, and only 20k more than Goodes... If Goodes is named I'll have a hard time picking but I can't help but think Jaksch might actually have better JS...

bowyanger

Quote from: GCSkiwi on March 24, 2015, 07:06:22 AM
Quote from: bowyanger on March 23, 2015, 09:25:59 PM
Im changing my starting strategy - to hell with the backline
I spend some good coin there and it still looks pretty ordinary

Im going for a backline that will resemble a dropped pie and will be using this thread to get the ingredients - as long as they are not KPP (besides Brown) and are guaranteed to be in the best 22 - theyre in my team

I reckon the money I save and spend elsewhere is going to increase my scoring potential

Im gonna load up my backline with no player > 400K....

See how the season pans out and let the dust settle then work on the backline

Mids, Ruck and especially forwards are just going to score so much better - theres just a much greater potential to get better bang for your buck shall we say

Ive never tried this strat in the 10 years or so Ive played the game but Ive probably never seen the list of backs available look so ordinary either

I toyed with this strategy too but it doesn't look a whole heap better when you consider that you might leave yourself with 6 players needing a cash injection for upgrading, and you've limited your rookie spots in mids and forwards to generate the extra cash to do so... That doesn't account for any of the remaining mids/fwds that might need bumping up. I think you have to pick at least 2 keeper backs which I don't think is too hard to do. The rest I agree is very challenging.

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 23, 2015, 10:29:01 PM
I will say that since I posted that a few days ago I've even ruled out MacMillian and Jaksch. Goodes is the only cheap option I will take because he is worth the risk, and its a small risk because he is so cheap

Mind if I ask why you've discounted Jaksch RD? Good NAB performances, never really got a decent run at GWS with lots of vests but pretty good performances there too, and only 20k more than Goodes... If Goodes is named I'll have a hard time picking but I can't help but think Jaksch might actually have better JS...

I haven't limited my mid and forward rookies, I have a few but Im really concerned about rookies not getting game time - playing 1 or 4 games and then you don't see them again.

The rookie landscape has changed since Suns & GWS are not robbing the talent pool anymore - there are nowhere near as many viable options as we have had in the last few years

220K now seems this year to be the money you need to spend to get a cheap player guaranteed to get a few games

There are not as many cheap locks and teams are becoming more mindful to let the young fellas develop instead of giving them a baptism of fire

GCSkiwi

Quote from: bowyanger on March 24, 2015, 08:33:16 AM
I haven't limited my mid and forward rookies, I have a few but Im really concerned about rookies not getting game time - playing 1 or 4 games and then you don't see them again.

The rookie landscape has changed since Suns & GWS are not robbing the talent pool anymore - there are nowhere near as many viable options as we have had in the last few years

220K now seems this year to be the money you need to spend to get a cheap player guaranteed to get a few games

There are not as many cheap locks and teams are becoming more mindful to let the young fellas develop instead of giving them a baptism of fire

I think there's always viable options that pop up who should see a few games. Yes always a bit of a gamble but you always get situations like Crouch getting injured which should give someone lit Ellis Yolmen a bit more certainty. I agree that the price point has gone up to around 200k to get decent JS, I don't think that's so bad though just means you have to plan differently.

My point about limiting rookie options is that if you go light in defense and bat deep in mids/fwds (which is what I assume you're doing when you say you spend the cash to improve your scoring elsewhere), then you're probably taking in premos up to M5/6 and F4 ish. Meaning you have 4/5 spots in mid and 4ish spots up front for rookies. Someone going 4 prem mids and 3 prem fwds has 7 spots in mid and 5 spots up front for money making - not necessarily all rookies but lower priced guys. You mitigate some of that making money from mid priced backmen but when I played with that idea I found that I was leaving out players in mids and fwds that I wanted to have in for money making.

If you can make it work for you, go for it, I was just providing the perspective that when I gave it a go, the idea sounded good but the team didn't look better once I'd formed it.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: GCSkiwi on March 24, 2015, 07:06:22 AM
Mind if I ask why you've discounted Jaksch RD? Good NAB performances, never really got a decent run at GWS with lots of vests but pretty good performances there too, and only 20k more than Goodes... If Goodes is named I'll have a hard time picking but I can't help but think Jaksch might actually have better JS...

I wouldn't say I've totally ruled him out, but I have Goodes miles ahead of him purely from a scoring point of view




Woppa15

The Prince and Goodes the only two in considering. Allows me to only field 1 rookie at D6 and the two bench options.

bowyanger

Dropped Pie Inc

Geary, Pearce, Saad, Hamling, Brown, Goodes, Jaksch, MacIntosh

Ablett, Pendlebury, JPK, Jelwood, Griffen, Vandenberg, Ellis Yolmen, Cockatoo, Anderson, Boekhorst

Goldstein, Lycett, Cox

Roughead, Gray, Franklin, Martin, Clark, Tarrant, Lambert, Hogan

Lock her in Eddy


batt

Quote from: bowyanger on March 24, 2015, 10:04:02 PM
Dropped Pie Inc

Geary, Pearce, Saad, Hamling, Brown, Goodes, Jaksch, MacIntosh

Ablett, Pendlebury, JPK, Jelwood, Griffen, Vandenberg, Ellis Yolmen, Cockatoo, Anderson, Boekhorst

Goldstein, Lycett, Cox

Roughead, Gray, Franklin, Martin, Clark, Tarrant, Lambert, Hogan

Lock her in Eddy

I read your team from the bottom up and I was thinking "this can't be".  Then I got there.