Best Midpriced backmen

[meow meow]

Daniel Merrett is value. Horror year last year but he's back to his best spot at full back. Only averaged 52 last year and a 75 average is entirely possible and his JS is more solid than GAJ.

[Bully]

If I had to pick one it would be Geary, he will almost certainly register an 80 average with potential to go higher, he's in the leadership group, he won't be playing lock down roles to the same degree and his ceiling is super high (as evidenced by his 160 in the preseason).

Any source to that mate? I've been trying to find out what will change from last year

Can't find the article but all indications were he will spend more time in the midfield. The preseason form has certainly backed that up.

Had a dig around and these comments seem to be around the mark.

" 2014 was a season ruined by a hand injury for Geary, managing only the seven games. But, before this he was being ear marked for more midfield time and was burning up the track etc. He was averaging 80 points per 100 minutes of game time, and with a potential move to the midfield, coaches were in the same position we are now."

Courtesy of OTLS

Ok thanks mate. Next concern though... in the past when he has gone to the midfield its been as a tagger. Last year he had 2 games in the middle, tagged in both according to FF for scores of 67 and 62. And it was similar in 2014.

I guess this is the concern but one can only go on the preseason form and he looks to be getting a fair bit of freedom. His form at the tail end of 2013 seems to be more indicative of where he will play this season. As for the tagging role, I suspect he will play on the guns from time to time but given St Kilda's nice early draw the chance of big scores is high, enough time to upgrade to a true premo.

[honza]

Daniel Merrett is value. Horror year last year but he's back to his best spot at full back. Only averaged 52 last year and a 75 average is entirely possible and his JS is more solid than GAJ.

Merret moved to the forward line in 2012, then tapered off from 2013-2014 and mixed it up fwd/back toward the end. His best scoring year was in defence in 2011, but that was only from 10 games. With that aside his best scoring years were 2012 & 13 - as a forward.

Last year's average was down on his career average, but he's declined each year from 2011 onward.

I just can't see any value here. I wish I could pick him, would be a good donut swinger with Goddard.

[Fid]

If I had to pick one it would be Geary, he will almost certainly register an 80 average with potential to go higher, he's in the leadership group, he won't be playing lock down roles to the same degree and his ceiling is super high (as evidenced by his 160 in the preseason).

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I just think his is mid priced and will stay that way.  Has gone big in the past and very low as well.  He was given a task against Essendon and scored 79.  He has gone 144 in the past then get 40.  Mid price player who will more than likely not gain much in value IMO

[Junkitup]

I was big on Clancee even before the NAB cup. If he can get back to his 2012/2013 form will be a good choice at the price

[YoungGun]

I was big on Clancee even before the NAB cup. If he can get back to his 2012/2013 form will be a good choice at the price

Clancee cemented into Freos best 22 is a no brainer but I dont think he is cemented in, previously has been in and out of the team and Ross Lyon is a real dickhead and will probably drop him for no apparent reason. Really want to pick him but dont think I can

[Bully]

If I had to pick one it would be Geary, he will almost certainly register an 80 average with potential to go higher, he's in the leadership group, he won't be playing lock down roles to the same degree and his ceiling is super high (as evidenced by his 160 in the preseason).

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I just think his is mid priced and will stay that way.  Has gone big in the past and very low as well.  He was given a task against Essendon and scored 79.  He has gone 144 in the past then get 40.  Mid price player who will more than likely not gain much in value IMO

Will average a minimum of 80 in my opinion, that basically means he will be around the 420k mark, could even go higher than that. He also has a large standard deviation as you have pointed out, that means he'll probably hit the high 400's and will be ripe for a sideways trade to a fallen premo. Selecting Geary is a low risk, high reward proposition. 

[GCSkiwi]

Geary and Pearce are the two currently holding D5 and D6 for me but I've got close to 200k spare that I don't know what to do with, Pearce I'm just concerned about JS so he may become Hurn, lots of things I'm just not too sure on.

[js19]

Geary and Pearce are the two currently holding D5 and D6 for me but I've got close to 200k spare that I don't know what to do with, Pearce I'm just concerned about JS so he may become Hurn, lots of things I'm just not too sure on.

If you've got 200k left that you don't know how to use you're essentially banking on Geary to outscore any of the more expensive defenders (except Malceski). Depending on your other choices, I'm sure there are better options, as Geary is a gamble (so is Clancee, but the upgrade options for him are more limited - Hurn is good though)

[Ricochet]

I was big on Clancee even before the NAB cup. If he can get back to his 2012/2013 form will be a good choice at the price

Clancee cemented into Freos best 22 is a no brainer but I dont think he is cemented in, previously has been in and out of the team and Ross Lyon is a real dickhead and will probably drop him for no apparent reason. Really want to pick him but dont think I can

yeh coz thats exactly how he operates  ::)

[GCSkiwi]

Geary and Pearce are the two currently holding D5 and D6 for me but I've got close to 200k spare that I don't know what to do with, Pearce I'm just concerned about JS so he may become Hurn, lots of things I'm just not too sure on.

If you've got 200k left that you don't know how to use you're essentially banking on Geary to outscore any of the more expensive defenders (except Malceski). Depending on your other choices, I'm sure there are better options, as Geary is a gamble (so is Clancee, but the upgrade options for him are more limited - Hurn is good though)

It's more a lack of faith in the premo defenders, I know I'll have to trade Geary but I'm backing him to make some money and give me time to see who's firing this year... I was actually toying for a long time with having no premo backmen, stacking it with midpricers and having 6 gun mids but the way rookies are looking that would screw me in the long run. As it stands I've got Simmo, Heater, Birchall and Newnes as keepers, looking at all the people I can afford I don't like picking any of them :P Would rather have someone I know I'm going to trade then picking someone I won't trade who ends up in the 10-20 range of top backs...

[RaisyDaisy]

OK, so after each team has played a couple of NAB matches, what are people doing with their backline structure? Do we think starting a mid pricer is worth it?

Sheppard has looked good scoring very well in both games. Will his 6th season finally be a breakout for the former pick 7?
Geary has got the ceiling and is now part of the leadership group
Shane Savage is another Saint that people are interested in
KK and Yeo have been mentioned, but I think most have taken these two out of contention
Ibbotson and Pearce playing together is slightly concerning me.
MacMillian and Jaksch are two other cheaper options

Is it really worth taking the risk on any of these guys? I keep changing my mind and cant seem to settle on a defence structure that I'm happy with. Thinking either 5 premo's, or 4 plus one of these guys, but which one? 3 premo's plus 2 of them is too risky right?

If Sheppard puts up a 3rd big score vs Freo and continues off HB he might be worth the risk. Same can be said about Geary if he performs well again

I feel like Geary is probably the best option when you weigh up the risk vs reward. Jaksch and JMac interest me simply because they are so much cheaper

[Bully]

I feel like Geary is probably the best option when you weigh up the risk vs reward. Jaksch and JMac interest me simply because they are so much cheaper

My feelings too, cooling on Pearce for the moment and praying for a cheap rookie option like Hamling. Defence is currently Simpson, Shaw, Newnes, Lumumba, Geary, rookie.

[GCSkiwi]

My current defence is Simpson, Heater, Birchall, Newnes, Geary, Jaksch (Brown, Saad) but I'm not confident in Jaksch or Saad. I'm about 10k short of turning Jaksch to Lumumba, and that would leave me with no spare coin for correction/rookie trades. I'm sure there will be someone for D8, just need a bit of money spare, D6 is a real toughie at the moment.

[Pkbaldy]

If I had to pick one it would be Geary, he will almost certainly register an 80 average with potential to go higher, he's in the leadership group, he won't be playing lock down roles to the same degree and his ceiling is super high (as evidenced by his 160 in the preseason).

Any source to that mate? I've been trying to find out what will change from last year

Can't find the article but all indications were he will spend more time in the midfield. The preseason form has certainly backed that up.

Had a dig around and these comments seem to be around the mark.

" 2014 was a season ruined by a hand injury for Geary, managing only the seven games. But, before this he was being ear marked for more midfield time and was burning up the track etc. He was averaging 80 points per 100 minutes of game time, and with a potential move to the midfield, coaches were in the same position we are now."

Courtesy of OTLS

Yeah that was a while ago. Geary will keep his lockdown roles. Seeings as it is now evidence that Newnes will be the one who will move into the midfield. He might still average 70ish but it will be super inconsistent. And his 'high ceiling' was because of the end game points that were added, magically got an extra 30(odd) sc.