NFL Season 2015/2016

[plumdog millionaire]

Just finished the 'Do Your Job' documentary on the 2014 Patriots. It was brilliant! :D

Great insight into the O-line formations vs Baltimore, the game plan vs Indy and 'The Play' in the SuperBowl.

@Plumdog and Holz. The clips are up on NFL.com.  Well worth a watch :) Wouldn't recommend it if you're a Pats hater though - Could imagine it being extremely difficult to sit through 40 minutes of watching a team you are jealous of talk about their 4th Super Bowl win in the last 13 years ;)

Waiting for the uni week to be over before I can watch it, really REALLY looking forward to it

[Jay]

Just finished the 'Do Your Job' documentary on the 2014 Patriots. It was brilliant! :D

Great insight into the O-line formations vs Baltimore, the game plan vs Indy and 'The Play' in the SuperBowl.

@Plumdog and Holz. The clips are up on NFL.com.  Well worth a watch :) Wouldn't recommend it if you're a Pats hater though - Could imagine it being extremely difficult to sit through 40 minutes of watching a team you are jealous of talk about their 4th Super Bowl win in the last 13 years ;)

Waiting for the uni week to be over before I can watch it, really REALLY looking forward to it

You'll love it man. There's an amazing quote from the offensive line coach in there, you'll know it when you hear it ;)

Props for waiting until the uni week is over to watch it.. I tried to do the exact same thing but just couldn't help myself :-[ Pretty sure there's an America's Game on the Pats that airs soon as well. :)

[plumdog millionaire]

Dave De Gugs!?
So much Pats content... So little time...

[Jay]

Dave De Gugs!?
So much Pats content... So little time...

Yep. He's awesome in the doco!
"I never worry. Because we have Tom Brady - the ninja. Bottom line is, you give him time and he'll make things happen. Nobody's better"

[Jay]

Haha, I texted PB this morning that the first TD of the season would be Brady to Gronk, and what do ya know ;) they can't guard him, especially not in the red-zone.

Tom looking great as well.. 13-15 completions with 163 yards and a touchdown so far

[Jay]

And there it is again. What was that the Steelers were saying about how they were going to slow down Gronk?

[Jukes]

Tom looking great as well.. 13-15 completions with 163 yards and a touchdown so far*

[Jay]

THEY CANT GUARD YOU GRONK. THEY CANT GUARD YOU! :D

[Capper]

THEY CANT GUARD YOU GRONK. THEY CANT GUARD YOU! :D

He got the ball even when it wasnt thrown to him

[Jay]

So that's 6 TDs for Brady over his last 5 quarters ;)

Stoked at the D's effort today. Holding Pitts to 21 is a great effort.

Good to start the title defence with a win :)

[Mat0369]

What a surprise, another team who has lost to the Patriots coming up with an excuse. Join the line, Philly. Let's all pretend that the Eagles lost SB39 because of Patriot "cheating" and not McNabb/Reid falling apart down the stretch like they had in 20 other games. I'd never heard of a 10 minute, 2 minute offense like they ran down the stretch of the Super Bowl? But sure, let's accuse New England instead. Because hey, it's apparently easier to accuse a team of cheating rather than admitting a loss to a superior team.

Oh and none of this explains the Pats success since 2007.. It's not like they dropped off after "SpyGate". They just won the frickin Super Bowl.

So it looks like you didn't read the article and are instead spitting the shower of the most biased New England homer that is Bill Simmons

The hack of a commish covered this up the same way he tried to cover up the Ray Rice situation. If it was exposed that the 'dynasty' that was the Pats had cheated it would have been bad for the league. It harms the brand, and thus compromises the league's position when their negotiating TV contracts. Cheating this rampant can chase some sponsors away, or (at the very least) they may not want to pay as much.  You don't want the public to get the idea that the competition isn't honest. Surprise, surprise that Kraft was his biggest supporter up until he took aim at the golden boy for deflating footballs.

One of the things I laughed at was the Patriots defense that "it didn't really help". dog please! If it didn't work they wouldn't have gone to such great lengths to do it. Not directing this directly at you Jay, but if you don't think the Pats knowing what teams were calling on defense affected the outcome you are an fing moron.  Another part that was funny is that it worked best on teams that were lazy, like the Bills and Dolphins.

The extent of their cheating wasn't just down to filming signals. They were known to go into the visitors locker room and steal the sheet that had the 1st 20 plays scripted(according to the article). So known for it that some teams would print out fake scripted plays for them to steal.

Willie McGinest, on Total Access just had a bit of a slip while talking about the Patriots stealing play sheets and such from the locker room. He said that (I'm paraphrasing) "if a team is dumb enough to leave stuff laying around... I'm sure they all know that it goes on...".

So not fully a 'confirmation', but close. "I'm sure they all know that it goes on".

Then you have the QB to OC head set getting scrambled on critical downs

Suppose it helped by a single score? FG or TD. Suppose it helped by a single 3rd down conversion?

How many of those Super Bowls were Patriots blow outs? Oh wait, none of them. The margin of victory on those games was tiny. So a tiny bit of help COULD mean a world of difference. If it didn't, then it was pointless for them to cheat by doing it.

Set the Super Bowls to one side for a moment. The article says that they cheated in this way in at least 40 games? Alter a game here and there, and you wind up in the playoffs or with HFA and not playing on the road.

Will the history books be changed to award the Panthers, Rams and Eagles those three Super Bowls? Of course not. An asterisk won't even be added (although it should). It's in the past. But the past informs the present and the same cheating regime is still in power in New England and apparently still looking for ways to cheat.

In regards to the Philly one, Eagles players came out after the game and said something was up, they just felt validated when Spygate broke. I still want to see that asterisk in every record book. They "won" that game at our expense, and as far as I'm concerned if we were robbed of it - they shouldn't be allowed to proclaim it as theirs either. So it's not as much about us getting anything from it, but rather taking away what they didn't truly earn. The same way the Storm were stripped of their premierships when they were found to have cheated the salary cap. The fact that they were doing this shady shower during this era it still pisses me off that the Eagles lost the chance to win their 1st SB because the other team didn't play fairly. F that and f the cheats.

[Mat0369]

Oh and lets add this

http://yourteamcheats.com/NE

[Jay]

I appreciate your posts Mat, you actually at least try and add some basis to your points rather than just blatant jealousy like it is with most Pats haters. You might not like Simmons, but the guy speaks with no filter, and has an answer for all the shower that gets tossed around about the Pats. Not sure how you can say the commish tried to cover it up.. We copped a massive penalty because of Spygate, and now a massive one for deflategate (with no proof whatsoever).

One thing I don't understand about the whole asterisk thing, is that the Pats have been just as good since SpyGate too? The whole argument was "hurt durr, the Pats haven't won since Spygate" and then they won last season so people had to resort to this deflating footballs nonsense - seriously, if anyone says that had any impact on the result then they are insane. Pats won last year fair and square, you guys are just going to have to accept that. They've also been to 2 more and win double digit games every year. It's not  like they are some team who was great, then a scandal occurred, and they turned to shower. It's gotten ridiculous, like, are you going to put an asterisk next to the Pats drafting Gronk too? They're a successful organisation dude. You have to be to win double digit games every year.

The Eagles one was pretty conclusive. You just sound bitter tbh man.. You lost that game because you had Mcnabb not Brady, and that's the end of the story. Don't blame the Pats, blame the 10-minute 2-minute drill.

For the record, I have never said that Belichick isn't a shady dude. Honestly, I believe he just doesn't give a flower what everyone thinks, he just wins games and it rubs people the wrong way. Look at the Baltimore game last year, the Pats started using tricky offensive line formations and dudes were calling it 'unsportsmanlike' etc etc. Belichick just doesn't care, and whether you like it or not that's what he does. What I've always said though, is that Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback of all-time. And it's a shame that Belichick's shiftiness has caused some morons to try and use that to twist Brady's legacy. Don't get me wrong, I love having Belichick coaching our team, because he wins. But Brady is just on another level man. I obviously can't debate that knowing signals would make it easier to play defense, but you can't use that shower to discredit Brady. It's gotten to the point where some guys (not naming names) can't even acknowledge a good throw by Tom without bringing up this 'asterisk' rubbish - which is just sad. I know you watch a lot of football Mat, out of any QB who would you have trusted the most  going in to the 4th quarter of the SuperBowl down 10 vs the league's best defense? The answer is Brady, man. The way he reads defenses, adapts his game to attack the weaknesses, has consistently been elite no matter the receiving core, has dominated in huge playoff games. There's no one better man, and that's what bugs me most about the various controversies - one of the best QBs we've ever seen is being underappreciated.

We can go back and forth on all the different controversies, but at the end of the day, the Pats won 3 SuperBowls in the early 2000s, and another last season. Their longevity to me (you could say it's Spurs-like) eliminates the idea that those first 3 SuperBowls weren't "legit". The record books aren't going to be changed man, and there won't be any asterisks added. If you want to go down that route, let's talk about how Jerry Rice admitted to using adhesive substances on his gloves? Every team has had their indiscretions, the Pats just get magnified because how successful they've been. Atlanta pumped crowd noise into their stadium but no one cared because they haven't won anything. I definitely wouldn't trade in the last 13 years of Pats success.. If your team wins 4 SuperBowls but you have to argue with a few dudes on the internet, thats a trade-off I'll take every flowering time.

http://yourteamcheats.com/PHI

[RiOtChEsS]

humorous that many analysts ridiculed Chip Kelly's offseason moves and others are picking them to win the NFC #polarizingcharacter

[Jukes]

Both you guys gotta




Anyway,
great business by the giants imo signing up Eli for 84/4. Threw 4400 yards at 63%, 30/14 and a 92.1 passer rating, extremely underrated season - had somebody like Wilson, Newton, or Brady (lel) put up that level of performance they'd be hailed as an MVP contender. AJ Green's signing also good business by the bengals (they still stink, tho).

And ofc the most pathetic scum team in the league raiders sign up that thug Aldon Smith, hope they rot at 3-13 again - Carr and Cooper are the only supportable starters they have.