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Started by Jay, March 04, 2015, 06:38:22 PM

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Mat0369

Quote from: Jukes on September 18, 2015, 03:30:49 PM
Why would you take a knee when you have 30+ seconds and 2 time outs to work with - that's not playing for the win/negative football

Like at the end if the last owl, wasn't a bad play call, just terrible execution by Charles/Wilson

They shouldn't have been running the ball there anyway.

And Jay is right, Smith's arm is horrible. He has Maclin now with Andy Reid calling plays. If they wanted to go deep, they would. The one throw he tries over 20 yards wobbles in the air and is picked off in the RZ. How the Chiefs blew that game I will never know.

RiOtChEsS

running the ball was sitting on the fence, had to throw a short out or check down to charles, running the ball was a huge no no there

Mat0369

What surprised me more then anything is Andy Reid actually ran the ball.

They ran it to kill the clock, it wasn't even a run to the sideline. If you are going to win the game you are going to the sideline to conserve time by running out of bounds. Fat Man never disappoints though

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: Mat0369 on September 18, 2015, 08:50:10 PM
What surprised me more then anything is Andy Reid actually ran the ball.

They ran it to kill the clock, it wasn't even a run to the sideline. If you are going to win the game you are going to the sideline to conserve time by running out of bounds. Fat Man never disappoints though
for the strategy he was using, just kneel...

Charles is so good on check downs or bubble screens i would have been tempted to run a couple deep an hit him up over the middle

Jukes

Quote from: Jayman on September 18, 2015, 08:09:56 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 18, 2015, 07:54:39 PM
You just used stats to prove...what I said? He's played in two run-first NFL offenses (Niners w/ Gore and Chiefs w/ Charles), with the best offensive weapon being the tight end (Davis and Kelce), and TEs usually aren't the receiver to go vertical. Nolan/Singletary/Harbaugh and Reid aren't going to go against their game plan because it's cool to throw it long, no matter who's at QB.

I know this might sound a little odd/technical to those like you who have never actually played the sport, but on a slant when there's a DB in the immediate vicinity of where the receiver is running to, you throw it right at (using arm strength) or to the immediate side of the receiver to ensure they get it - a catch and 75% chance of a TD is far better than a 50/50 TD/INT chance. The throw was about 18 inches too far, which is inexcusable for a QB at my level, let alone somebody that gets $20mil a year, on a pass that goes about 6 total yards.

Quick slant plays are the bee's knees when you need only a few yards, that's how I scored the go-ahead last-quarter TD in our grannie last year.

lel
So if we both agree that Smith never throws deep. How can you possibly know that he's better than Brady, who when he actually had a downfield threat, led the league in accuracy on deep balls? Granted, Brady doesn't throw deep much anymore, so I don't know if he's still great at it, but it's more because of the receivers he's got to work with - none are really gonna beat you downfield.

Yeah but it's 2nd down!!! You don't need to go high-risk on that play. You can run the ball, and you've still got a timeout if you don't get in. So many better plays you could run than a slant in the middle of the end-zone..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUuJZQ5ap8o

Jay

Quote from: Jukes on September 18, 2015, 09:08:22 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 18, 2015, 08:09:56 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 18, 2015, 07:54:39 PM
You just used stats to prove...what I said? He's played in two run-first NFL offenses (Niners w/ Gore and Chiefs w/ Charles), with the best offensive weapon being the tight end (Davis and Kelce), and TEs usually aren't the receiver to go vertical. Nolan/Singletary/Harbaugh and Reid aren't going to go against their game plan because it's cool to throw it long, no matter who's at QB.

I know this might sound a little odd/technical to those like you who have never actually played the sport, but on a slant when there's a DB in the immediate vicinity of where the receiver is running to, you throw it right at (using arm strength) or to the immediate side of the receiver to ensure they get it - a catch and 75% chance of a TD is far better than a 50/50 TD/INT chance. The throw was about 18 inches too far, which is inexcusable for a QB at my level, let alone somebody that gets $20mil a year, on a pass that goes about 6 total yards.

Quick slant plays are the bee's knees when you need only a few yards, that's how I scored the go-ahead last-quarter TD in our grannie last year.

lel
So if we both agree that Smith never throws deep. How can you possibly know that he's better than Brady, who when he actually had a downfield threat, led the league in accuracy on deep balls? Granted, Brady doesn't throw deep much anymore, so I don't know if he's still great at it, but it's more because of the receivers he's got to work with - none are really gonna beat you downfield.

Yeah but it's 2nd down!!! You don't need to go high-risk on that play. You can run the ball, and you've still got a timeout if you don't get in. So many better plays you could run than a slant in the middle of the end-zone..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUuJZQ5ap8o
Can't say I don't enjoy that vision 8)

Mat0369

7 passes more then 5 yards. With Maclin and Kelce you pass a total of 7 times more then 5 yards. That is just crazy

RiOtChEsS

seems a bit odd you havent weighed in on your eggles mat...

Mat0369

I didn't actually finish watching the game until Thursday night. I had the fridge repair guy come over to fix the not broken fridge on Tuesday morning and work has been nuts the last few days. I haven't even really had time to scratch my balls let alone bring up a 4 day old game.

Kiko made that one great interception but couldn't lay a tackle or get off a block. The RB's not named Sproles sucked. Funny how once Shady was traded it was all him 'dancing' and not the line sucking and how much more efficient we would be with all these north south runners. The secondary looked like the same old getting torched while being left on an island. There were a couple of dropped picks by Jenkins. I don't get why you have Maxwell play LCB when he was a RCB his entire time in Seattle. His mechanics will be all messed up similar to switching tackle position. So we basically got this



They looked much better in the second half so I am not totally worried. Bradford started to light it up. Quinn is a great defensive coach so that unit improving for the Falcons isn't surprising. Chip screwed up rushing the FG unit out and JMatt dropped a ball that he doesn't drop resulting in the last pick. Chip knows if this blows up he will probably bail on us for college. I am expecting this though


BratPack

Hmmm might have a few little wagers this weeked

No way the Falcons are a field goal underdog to Eli. 2.14 straight out on Sportsbet is tempting

But the real easy money is the Pats 1.99 giving only 1 point to Buffalo. I know it's Rex Ryan but with Shady banged up? That's a YOINK! if I ever saw one

Other one is the Dallas-Philly game, Bradford and DeMarco still fitting in, no Dez and the point total set at 55. I'm smashing the Under

RiOtChEsS

Romo gonna be Romo and control the game, it will come down to how badly we get gouged on D

Jay

Quote from: BratPack on September 19, 2015, 05:46:15 AM
But the real easy money is the Pats 1.99 giving only 1 point to Buffalo. I know it's Rex Ryan but with Shady banged up? That's a YOINK! if I ever saw one
I dont think that's easy money. We're missing basically our whole offensive line - not a good thing vs the Bills. I just hope Brady gets out of their alive.

Mat0369

#687
I have a few random stats for your bets. There was a guy that was posting them last year on a site I go on, I will copy and paste them

Monday night's 41-14 loss in Kansas City dropped the Patriots to 1-5 straight up and 0-6 against the spread on natural grass this season and last combined (they are 14-2 straight up in the rest of their games!) - and they have now non-covered eight in a row on grass, their last spread cover thereon coming in the 2012 season opener at Tennessee.

Clearly it makes a great deal of difference to the Patriots what type of surface they play on.

I had picked Cincy to win in my free multi I had, this guy posted this depressingly after

The Patriots are 4-2 on the road on artificial turf this season and last combined - and with Cincinnati not having won in New England since 1986 and having the NFL's second-worst record coming off a bye week (7-17-1, the tie coming against us in 2008), New England is a very solid pick this week.

These things have failed a couple of times this season already though: Until Week 1, the Bills had never even come close to beating the Bears in Chicago, the Broncos had lost six in a row to the Colts, and the Giants hadn't lost in Detroit since 1983; and until Week 2, the Bears had lost eight in a row at San Francisco, getting blown out in virtually every one of them, and the Eagles had been 0-5 against the spread in their last five vs. the Colts.

So going off those stats, the Pats should cover the spread easily and are more then likely to win since Ralph Wilson Stadium is Astro Turf

The next one

When the Falcons lost 41-28 at Minnesota this past Sunday as a 3-point favorite, it was their ninth consecutive loss at an outdoor stadium (which the Vikings are playing at this year and next).

Worse yet, the Falcons haven't even been competitive in the vast majority of these games, losing all but two by double digits (with one of the two single-digit defeats coming at Green Bay without Aaron Rodgers last December 8) and getting outscored 280-177, for an average defeat margin of 11.4 points per game.

By the way, Atlanta's lone road victory in 2013 took place at the domed Rogers Centre (retractable roof was closed) in Toronto, over the Bills, one week before the aforementioned loss to the Packers.

Something to think about, as the Falcons remain outdoors this week, taking on the Giants as just a 3-point underdog (opening line).

This was before LAST years matchup

The Falcons broke the streak winning in Tampa and Carolina last season. It is still something to consider. I think the Giants are the smart pick in terms of the money based on that.

Last one

With their loss to the previously-winless Giants this past Sunday, the Texans are now 6-30 on artificial turf since 2004, compared with 68-63 in the rest of their games (playoffs included) over the same period.

Why this truly massive difference in records - especially in an era where the "new" artificial turf, i.e., FieldTurf, is supposed to mimic natural grass so closely?

The Texans had two more games on artificial turf in 2014: At Dallas on October 5th, and at Indianapolis - where they have never won, in franchise history, not even in the year the Colts went 2-14 - on December 14th.

Furthermore, the Texans are 10-25-1 against the spread in those 36 artificial-turf games since 2004, including 1-11-1 against the spread in their last 13.

At one point, they lost 17 consecutive games on artificial turf, ending the streak with a 28-17 win at Cincinnati on October 18, 2009.  They had been outscored by 282 points - an average defeat margin of 16.6 points - in those 17 losses.

Texans play the Panthers on natural grass this weekend. They should cover the spread and I have picked them straight up and think they will win.

Interestingly enough

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2015/09/18/texans-to-move-from-natural-grass-to-turf-in-nrg-stadium/72424820/

For those of you looking to put down some money on these games, hopefully this helps

EDIT: Just realised the website link above doesn't work, should be fixed now

Jukes

So I've been playing a fair bit of the new madden recently because no assignments and it gives me something to do while I listen to podcasts, few things:
1. IT'S RIDICULOUSLY EASY. I play it on All-Madden, but still as my RB I just had a 19-0 season with 5000 rushing yards, 70 rushing TDs, 2300 receiving yards, 30 receiving TDs, 5 punt-return TDs, and 3 kick-return TDs with the niners OL, averaging almost 70 points per game (yeah, I no-huddle a lot)
2. Idk if it's just me, but the return game has been made too easy. I just cut to the other side and sprint my way to the endzone.
3. The amount of holding and block-in-the-back calls are too damn high. I appreciate that they're actually trying to have more penalties in the game because the last few years you can go most games without having any, but sometimes it's just stupid where players not involved in the play do it. This is especially aggravating in the return game - I've had about a half dozen return TDs called back for things that had no effect on the return, such as a block in the back on a punt return where I had 1 more yard until the endzone.
4. Lots of glitches with presentation. Again.
5. Supersim makes your pass rush OP. Had Aaron Lynch pick up 30 sacks last season, with 20 and 18 by other players.

Overall it's almost the exact same as last year, glad my brother paid for it and not me.

Mat0369

So it turns out I have a free bet. Took my own advice and have taken New England (-1), Texans (+3) and Giants (-2.5) to cover the spread. Have also added Raiders to cover the spread since the Ravens have spent the whole week on the road (+6) and Lions straight up @$2.10. I have picked the Raiders to win in my pick em but to cover I am going with the spread on that, same with the Texans.