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Started by Jay, March 04, 2015, 06:38:22 PM

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Capper

Quote from: Jukes on September 17, 2015, 05:21:42 PM
So this week on mate we have:
Niners-Steelers
Cowboys-Eagles
Seahawks-Packers

Fwaaark those are three awesome games
good games, but i was expecting to watch the Monday night games on Tuesday but no one is showing them

BratPack

Quote from: Capper on September 17, 2015, 06:59:42 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 17, 2015, 05:21:42 PM
So this week on mate we have:
Niners-Steelers
Cowboys-Eagles
Seahawks-Packers

Fwaaark those are three awesome games
good games, but i was expecting to watch the Monday night games on Tuesday but no one is showing them

That's because they're on ESPN. Buy Foxtel cheapskate  :P

Capper

Yah!!!

Peyton knows which team to throw the ball to now

BratPack

Man I love Peyton for all that he did for my Colts but this is just sad  :(

Jay

Quote from: BratPack on September 18, 2015, 01:05:09 PM
Man I love Peyton for all that he did for my Colts but this is just sad  :(
He just cracked 64 passing kilometres :o

Jay

Vintage Andy Reid play-call ;D

Jay

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH WHAT THE HECK

Jay

Just to add some detail to that post.. KC and Denver are tied with 30 seconds left. KC 1st down after a touchback.. They don't take the knee, Charles fumbles and it's returned for a TD.

CHIEFS GONNA CHIEF

Jukes

Why would you take a knee when you have 30+ seconds and 2 time outs to work with - that's not playing for the win/negative football

Like at the end if the last owl, wasn't a bad play call, just terrible execution by Charles/Wilson

Jay

Quote from: Jukes on September 18, 2015, 03:30:49 PM
Why would you take a knee when you have 30+ seconds and 2 time outs to work with - that's not playing for the win/negative football

Like at the end if the last owl, wasn't a bad play call, just terrible execution by Charles/Wilson
Because they have Alex Smith at QB not Rodgers, Manning, Brady etc. Would be hard to dink and dunk the whole field in just 30 seconds. Imo you just take OT - the Broncos D has a load of play makers.

Btw, how was Wilson's execution terrible in the final play last year?

plumdog millionaire

Quote from: Jukes on September 18, 2015, 03:30:49 PM
Why would you take a knee when you have 30+ seconds and 2 time outs to work with - that's not playing for the win/negative football

Like at the end if the last owl, wasn't a bad play call, just terrible execution by Charles/Wilson
Agree with Jukes, they should have gone for the win

http://youtu.be/b5-iJUuPWis

Jukes

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Quote from: Jayman on September 18, 2015, 03:37:17 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 18, 2015, 03:30:49 PM
Why would you take a knee when you have 30+ seconds and 2 time outs to work with - that's not playing for the win/negative football

Like at the end if the last owl, wasn't a bad play call, just terrible execution by Charles/Wilson
Because they have Alex Smith at QB not Rodgers, Manning, Brady etc. Would be hard to dink and dunk the whole field in just 30 seconds. Imo you just take OT - the Broncos D has a load of play makers.

Btw, how was Wilson's execution terrible in the final play last year?

Firstly, Smith has a far better deep arm than your chump that's for sure. He showed that at Utah, just he's been in two run-first offenses with strong tight-ends, but not much out wide.

35 seconds and 2 timeouts, only needed 50 yards to get into comfortable (47 yarder) FG range. That's easy.

And on the second part, YOU CANNOT MISS A RECEIVER ON A SLANT THAT BADLY. Had Peyt done that he'd be absolutely crucified, instead it's a bad play-call apparently. That's a routine play that most good NFL QBs would make every time. He threw it to the advantage of the DB. But with all mistakes Wilson makes it's hidden and blamed on the coaches/OL/receivers/whatever. I would nail that throw 999 times out of 1000.

Jay

Quote from: Jukes on September 18, 2015, 05:47:02 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 18, 2015, 03:37:17 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 18, 2015, 03:30:49 PM
Why would you take a knee when you have 30+ seconds and 2 time outs to work with - that's not playing for the win/negative football

Like at the end if the last owl, wasn't a bad play call, just terrible execution by Charles/Wilson
Because they have Alex Smith at QB not Rodgers, Manning, Brady etc. Would be hard to dink and dunk the whole field in just 30 seconds. Imo you just take OT - the Broncos D has a load of play makers.

Btw, how was Wilson's execution terrible in the final play last year?

Firstly, Smith has a far better deep arm than your chump that's for sure. He showed that at Utah, just he's been in two run-first offenses with strong tight-ends, but not much out wide.

35 seconds and 2 timeouts, only needed 50 yards to get into comfortable (47 yarder) FG range. That's easy.

And on the second part, YOU CANNOT MISS A RECEIVER ON A SLANT THAT BADLY. Had Peyt done that he'd be absolutely crucified, instead it's a bad play-call apparently. That's a routine play that most good NFL QBs would make every time. He threw it to the advantage of the DB. But with all mistakes Wilson makes it's hidden and blamed on the coaches/OL/receivers/whatever. I would nail that throw 999 times out of 1000.
Smith threw only 2.5% of his passes in the 21-30 yard range (the lowest in the league), only 1.7% in the 31-40 yard range (2nd lowest in the league) and 0.2% on 40+ yard throws (lowest in the league). He also had an Air Yards per attempt of 2.45, compared to Brady's 4.84. Has not shown anything in his entire career to even suggest that he is competent throwing deep. If you can go back to college to defend Smith, I can go back to 2007 to defend Brady.. Where he thew 73 deep balls and connected on 50.7%, the best mark in the league.

Go back and watch the Wilson throw, the ball was thrown right to Lockette, Butler just came in and bumped him off it. It was a horrible play call. Why not call a bootleg and have Wilson roll out so he can just throw it out the bounds and stop the clock if the throw isn't there. Even if Butler doesn't make it to the spot, the ball still could have popped up out of Lockette's hands and been picked off too. The call to throw wasn't that bad, but a drop-back slant pass was just silly.

Jukes

You just used stats to prove...what I said? He's played in two run-first NFL offenses (Niners w/ Gore and Chiefs w/ Charles), with the best offensive weapon being the tight end (Davis and Kelce), and TEs usually aren't the receiver to go vertical. Nolan/Singletary/Harbaugh and Reid aren't going to go against their game plan because it's cool to throw it long, no matter who's at QB.

I know this might sound a little odd/technical to those like you who have never actually played the sport, but on a slant when there's a DB in the immediate vicinity of where the receiver is running to, you throw it right at (using arm strength) or to the immediate side of the receiver to ensure they get it - a catch and 75% chance of a TD is far better than a 50/50 TD/INT chance. The throw was about 18 inches too far, which is inexcusable for a QB at my level, let alone somebody that gets $20mil a year, on a pass that goes about 6 total yards.

Quick slant plays are the bee's knees when you need only a few yards, that's how I scored the go-ahead last-quarter TD in our grannie last year.

lel

Jay

Quote from: Jukes on September 18, 2015, 07:54:39 PM
You just used stats to prove...what I said? He's played in two run-first NFL offenses (Niners w/ Gore and Chiefs w/ Charles), with the best offensive weapon being the tight end (Davis and Kelce), and TEs usually aren't the receiver to go vertical. Nolan/Singletary/Harbaugh and Reid aren't going to go against their game plan because it's cool to throw it long, no matter who's at QB.

I know this might sound a little odd/technical to those like you who have never actually played the sport, but on a slant when there's a DB in the immediate vicinity of where the receiver is running to, you throw it right at (using arm strength) or to the immediate side of the receiver to ensure they get it - a catch and 75% chance of a TD is far better than a 50/50 TD/INT chance. The throw was about 18 inches too far, which is inexcusable for a QB at my level, let alone somebody that gets $20mil a year, on a pass that goes about 6 total yards.

Quick slant plays are the bee's knees when you need only a few yards, that's how I scored the go-ahead last-quarter TD in our grannie last year.

lel
So if we both agree that Smith never throws deep. How can you possibly know that he's better than Brady, who when he actually had a downfield threat, led the league in accuracy on deep balls? Granted, Brady doesn't throw deep much anymore, so I don't know if he's still great at it, but it's more because of the receivers he's got to work with - none are really gonna beat you downfield.

Yeah but it's 2nd down!!! You don't need to go high-risk on that play. You can run the ball, and you've still got a timeout if you don't get in. So many better plays you could run than a slant in the middle of the end-zone..