Robbie Gray the forgotten one!!

Started by Mahogany, March 04, 2015, 06:34:52 PM

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The_Captain

Quote from: quinny88 on March 11, 2015, 01:01:05 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 11, 2015, 12:14:56 PM
every year my strategy revolves around the best of the best premos with rookies,

Gray should be the best of the best. If he can go 110+ I dont care if he drops a little, the difference between him and say a lids isnt really that much.

Who are you bringing him in at the expense of? From memory you were going with Buddy, Martin and Swan.
Buddy is underpriced and plays the Bombers in round 1 who he always smashes.
Swan is certain to go up in value
Dusty is set to go go huge with more midfield time.

They are the same 3 forwards I have and can't bring myself to take any of them out for a guy with a super tough start to the year and almost certain to drop in value

i culled dusty. He is most unreliable of the lot i reckon. Likely to get caught out on a night on the town and get suspended for a few weeks lol!

Holz

Quote from: quinny88 on March 11, 2015, 01:01:05 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 11, 2015, 12:14:56 PM
every year my strategy revolves around the best of the best premos with rookies,

Gray should be the best of the best. If he can go 110+ I dont care if he drops a little, the difference between him and say a lids isnt really that much.

Who are you bringing him in at the expense of? From memory you were going with Buddy, Martin and Swan.
Buddy is underpriced and plays the Bombers in round 1 who he always smashes.
Swan is certain to go up in value
Dusty is set to go go huge with more midfield time.

They are the same 3 forwards I have and can't bring myself to take any of them out for a guy with a super tough start to the year and almost certain to drop in value

At the moment Dustin Martin but if tippett isn't fully fit I might move buddy.

Martin should improve but I'll take 110 from Gray over 105 from Martin even with the price difference.

quinny88

Quote from: Holz on March 11, 2015, 01:32:24 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 11, 2015, 01:01:05 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 11, 2015, 12:14:56 PM
every year my strategy revolves around the best of the best premos with rookies,

Gray should be the best of the best. If he can go 110+ I dont care if he drops a little, the difference between him and say a lids isnt really that much.

Who are you bringing him in at the expense of? From memory you were going with Buddy, Martin and Swan.
Buddy is underpriced and plays the Bombers in round 1 who he always smashes.
Swan is certain to go up in value
Dusty is set to go go huge with more midfield time.

They are the same 3 forwards I have and can't bring myself to take any of them out for a guy with a super tough start to the year and almost certain to drop in value

At the moment Dustin Martin but if tippett isn't fully fit I might move buddy.

Martin should improve but I'll take 110 from Gray over 105 from Martin even with the price difference.

105 vs 110 might not be the case early on  with Grays first 4 against Freo, Sydney, North, Hawthorn and Martins first 4 against Cralton, Dogs, Brisbane, Melbourne

Grazz

Quote from: Drak on March 11, 2015, 10:49:28 AM
Quote from: Grazz on March 10, 2015, 08:15:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 10, 2015, 04:33:10 PM
His year last year was elite and will be hard to replicate. He should be the #1 tagged now, and teams will go to him first. But happy to be proven wrong, he is just an upgrade target for me

Teams will have to put more time into him he'll command that respect but he is hard to tag as he goes everywhere on the ground hard to beat one on one when he goes forward. He'll be an opposition coaches nightmare again in 2015 im hoping mate.

Grazz, I really feel people are epically underating this guy. I saw him move through traffic with a tagger on his ass last year and it blew me away. That low core gravity of Gaj. Lateral movement monster.

All the best laugh in the face of taggers. Well, all bar creepy crowley. And he is first round..... but still. Back him all the way I reckon. I got him at $26 bucks for the brownlow. Thats how much I believe in him. And Im a Bombers supporter.

Ive seen him play alot of Footy living in SA, watched his career start stop through injury saw glimpses of his ability enough to know he had gun written all over him. For me last year was the preview haha i honestly feel he can get better still. I admire him quite a bit, his knee injury was one of the worst seen at the time and i thought this could potentially hobble him and we wont see his best. As a Crows supporter i'd would love him in the fruit loop colours i like watching him play for the Power i'd love watching him play for us(he'd never leave Port).  First forward picked this year and one of a handful in my team i feel really secure about picking. He's in great shape as his game against WC showed, i knew some on the fence would be jumping on him now  but i always thought he'd be hard to keep under wraps anyway. Wether you start him or not depending on structure money etc you will finish with him in 2015 he'll make you buy him. Forwards who avg 30 touches a game are hard to resist.

batt

He made his first appearance in my team today and I have a feeling he'll stay there.  I'd much rather start with him instead of bring him in early.  Forward lines are going to be massive scorers this year gee.

Drak

Quote from: Grazz on March 11, 2015, 02:50:52 PM
Quote from: Drak on March 11, 2015, 10:49:28 AM
Quote from: Grazz on March 10, 2015, 08:15:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 10, 2015, 04:33:10 PM
His year last year was elite and will be hard to replicate. He should be the #1 tagged now, and teams will go to him first. But happy to be proven wrong, he is just an upgrade target for me

Teams will have to put more time into him he'll command that respect but he is hard to tag as he goes everywhere on the ground hard to beat one on one when he goes forward. He'll be an opposition coaches nightmare again in 2015 im hoping mate.

Grazz, I really feel people are epically underating this guy. I saw him move through traffic with a tagger on his ass last year and it blew me away. That low core gravity of Gaj. Lateral movement monster.

All the best laugh in the face of taggers. Well, all bar creepy crowley. And he is first round..... but still. Back him all the way I reckon. I got him at $26 bucks for the brownlow. Thats how much I believe in him. And Im a Bombers supporter.

Ive seen him play alot of Footy living in SA, watched his career start stop through injury saw glimpses of his ability enough to know he had gun written all over him. For me last year was the preview haha i honestly feel he can get better still. I admire him quite a bit, his knee injury was one of the worst seen at the time and i thought this could potentially hobble him and we wont see his best. As a Crows supporter i'd would love him in the fruit loop colours i like watching him play for the Power i'd love watching him play for us(he'd never leave Port).  First forward picked this year and one of a handful in my team i feel really secure about picking. He's in great shape as his game against WC showed, i knew some on the fence would be jumping on him now  but i always thought he'd be hard to keep under wraps anyway. Wether you start him or not depending on structure money etc you will finish with him in 2015 he'll make you buy him. Forwards who avg 30 touches a game are hard to resist.

He was quite literally the first one in my team... including before Gaj. He won't be a fwd next year.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Drak on March 12, 2015, 11:17:13 PM
He was quite literally the first one in my team... including before Gaj. He won't be a fwd next year.

Cant see any reason why he wont maintain MID/FWD DPP. Should easily kick enough goals to maintain FWD status, and will clearly rack up enough pill to maintain MID

Drak

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 12, 2015, 11:28:04 PM
Quote from: Drak on March 12, 2015, 11:17:13 PM
He was quite literally the first one in my team... including before Gaj. He won't be a fwd next year.

Cant see any reason why he wont maintain MID/FWD DPP. Should easily kick enough goals to maintain FWD status, and will clearly rack up enough pill to maintain MID

Hope you are right Daisy. But if he goes top 10.... SuperCoach kents take away the best and plonk them in the mids.

diamw90

Would it be wise to have gray as my M4?

Jackross10

Quote from: diamw90 on March 13, 2015, 10:11:09 AM
Would it be wise to have gray as my M4?

Why take him as a mid when you can get him as a forward?

diamw90

My current structure won't let me take an extra premium in my forward line which has Franklin, martin, swan... Whereas if I put him at mids it gives me a premium DPP link... Just a thought

Ricochet

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 12, 2015, 11:28:04 PM
Quote from: Drak on March 12, 2015, 11:17:13 PM
He was quite literally the first one in my team... including before Gaj. He won't be a fwd next year.

Cant see any reason why he wont maintain MID/FWD DPP. Should easily kick enough goals to maintain FWD status, and will clearly rack up enough pill to maintain MID
We can't predict this. If he plays mainly midfield then he'll be a mid only. Goals has little to do with it

bennyfraz

Was thinking of starting him at my M4,

Then Eventually moving him into my forward line and trading a forward rookie up to a premium midfielder through Grays DPP status.

So therefore I upgrade my forward line because he is a guaranteed top 6 forward where as I would rather wait to see what midfielders shine early in the year and trade them in after.

Its just too hard to pass up on Lids & Martins easy run early and Swans cheap price. Also all the gun rookies in the forward line.

Thoughts?

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Ricochet on March 13, 2015, 10:27:19 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 12, 2015, 11:28:04 PM
Quote from: Drak on March 12, 2015, 11:17:13 PM
He was quite literally the first one in my team... including before Gaj. He won't be a fwd next year.

Cant see any reason why he wont maintain MID/FWD DPP. Should easily kick enough goals to maintain FWD status, and will clearly rack up enough pill to maintain MID
We can't predict this. If he plays mainly midfield then he'll be a mid only. Goals has little to do with it

Not so sure about that man. Are there any mids who kicked over 30 goals and don't have FWD status? I don't know, but I'd be confident there isn't

Guys like Swan, Goddard and Lids got FWD DPP because they actually spent a fair amount of time in the forward half but I reckon guys like Gray and Bennell get FWD because they kick a lot of goals

Like you said, we cant predict it, but I cant see how someone kicking over 30 goals (which I think Gray will do) would not get FWD status

Ricochet

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 13, 2015, 11:06:16 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 13, 2015, 10:27:19 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 12, 2015, 11:28:04 PM
Quote from: Drak on March 12, 2015, 11:17:13 PM
He was quite literally the first one in my team... including before Gaj. He won't be a fwd next year.

Cant see any reason why he wont maintain MID/FWD DPP. Should easily kick enough goals to maintain FWD status, and will clearly rack up enough pill to maintain MID
We can't predict this. If he plays mainly midfield then he'll be a mid only. Goals has little to do with it

Not so sure about that man. Are there any mids who kicked over 30 goals and don't have FWD status? I don't know, but I'd be confident there isn't

Guys like Swan, Goddard and Lids got FWD DPP because they actually spent a fair amount of time in the forward half but I reckon guys like Gray and Bennell get FWD because they kick a lot of goals

Like you said, we cant predict it, but I cant see how someone kicking over 30 goals (which I think Gray will do) would not get FWD status
Nah it's all based on where they play on the ground mate. Kicking goals is just a result of that. Otherwise GAJ would have been a fwd a long time ago