mid priced backline?

[cortez]

Been thinking about this for a while now since there aren't many lock great premium backs it's a bit less of a risk to have a few more mid priced backs and then load up a bit more in forwards and mids. Currently my back starting 6 is:
Shaw, Newnes, Savage, Ibbotson, Whitecross & N. Brown. Is this too weak of a backline? I'm thinking 4 possible keepers by years end if all fall in to place.

[RaisyDaisy]

There are plenty of threads around discussing the backline and mid options ;)

I think that backline is way too weak. Lets see how Savage, Ibbo and Newnes look during the NAB, and Brown has to be on the bench if you're picking him

[DaveElNacho]

People keep saying there's no lock premium backs but I don't really see it. Plenty of value. It just means that with the removal of these midfield "defenders" we won't see those 100+ averages. Except for maybe Malceski.

Expect your top defenders to be 90-100.

[H1bb3i2d]

People keep saying there's no lock premium backs but I don't really see it. Plenty of value. It just means that with the removal of these midfield "defenders" we won't see those 100+ averages. Except for maybe Malceski.

Expect your top defenders to be 90-100.

Yes, there are plenty of lock-ins for a 90+ average. But since there aren't any 100+, if you can get a mid-pricer that averages 85 that should be enough to be a keeper, because it's only 5ppg off premium status, not 15.

[AaronKirk]

WhiteX and Brown at D5/D6 is too weak IMO.

Need to bring in another premo/mid pricer to move WhiteX to D6 at least.

[DaveElNacho]

People keep saying there's no lock premium backs but I don't really see it. Plenty of value. It just means that with the removal of these midfield "defenders" we won't see those 100+ averages. Except for maybe Malceski.

Expect your top defenders to be 90-100.

Yes, there are plenty of lock-ins for a 90+ average. But since there aren't any 100+, if you can get a mid-pricer that averages 85 that should be enough to be a keeper, because it's only 5ppg off premium status, not 15.

hadn't really looked at it like that actually. but still playing with fire having that many midpricers. just as the premo backs will hit the 95 mark, 85 will still be solid. equivalent to say 105 in the mid. don't think it will be easy for all of these midpricers to hit that.

[H1bb3i2d]

People keep saying there's no lock premium backs but I don't really see it. Plenty of value. It just means that with the removal of these midfield "defenders" we won't see those 100+ averages. Except for maybe Malceski.

Expect your top defenders to be 90-100.

Yes, there are plenty of lock-ins for a 90+ average. But since there aren't any 100+, if you can get a mid-pricer that averages 85 that should be enough to be a keeper, because it's only 5ppg off premium status, not 15.

hadn't really looked at it like that actually. but still playing with fire having that many midpricers. just as the premo backs will hit the 95 mark, 85 will still be solid. equivalent to say 105 in the mid. don't think it will be easy for all of these midpricers to hit that.

Yeah of course not! But it's compounded by the lack of rookies, so mid-pricers are really the only way not to spend overs down back. Some strategies are downright ludicrous, I'll only start 1 (maybe 2 if someone can prove they deserve a spot in my side) midpricers there myself.

[eaglesman]

People keep saying there's no lock premium backs but I don't really see it. Plenty of value. It just means that with the removal of these midfield "defenders" we won't see those 100+ averages. Except for maybe Malceski.

Expect your top defenders to be 90-100.

Yes, there are plenty of lock-ins for a 90+ average. But since there aren't any 100+, if you can get a mid-pricer that averages 85 that should be enough to be a keeper, because it's only 5ppg off premium status, not 15.

I would just like to know who the lock ins for a 90+ average are.
I am actually not convinced with anyone.
Malceski new team - some doubts there
Simpson - proven but aging
Burgoyne - can actually see him going 90 but feel like could be rested at times given Hawks depth
Smith - one season more attention likely - doubts
Shaw - I see 90 here
Gibson - kpp is frawley doubts
Hodge - 90+ but does get odd injury
Hibberd - asada issues
Jaensch - just not convinced
Enlight - old
Birchall - injury preseason can be tagged
Kelly - can get it but often wasteful

[GoLions]

People keep saying there's no lock premium backs but I don't really see it. Plenty of value. It just means that with the removal of these midfield "defenders" we won't see those 100+ averages. Except for maybe Malceski.

Expect your top defenders to be 90-100.

Yes, there are plenty of lock-ins for a 90+ average. But since there aren't any 100+, if you can get a mid-pricer that averages 85 that should be enough to be a keeper, because it's only 5ppg off premium status, not 15.

I would just like to know who the lock ins for a 90+ average are.
I am actually not convinced with anyone.
Malceski new team - some doubts there
Simpson - proven but aging
Burgoyne - can actually see him going 90 but feel like could be rested at times given Hawks depth
Smith - one season more attention likely - doubts
Shaw - I see 90 here
Gibson - kpp is frawley doubts
Hodge - 90+ but does get odd injury
Hibberd - asada issues
Jaensch - just not convinced
Enlight - old
Birchall - injury preseason can be tagged
Kelly - can get it but often wasteful

Eski, Simpson, Shaw, Hibberd, Hurn, Smith, Hodge, Burgoyne and maybe Birchall I would back to go 90+ without injury

[H1bb3i2d]

People keep saying there's no lock premium backs but I don't really see it. Plenty of value. It just means that with the removal of these midfield "defenders" we won't see those 100+ averages. Except for maybe Malceski.

Expect your top defenders to be 90-100.

Yes, there are plenty of lock-ins for a 90+ average. But since there aren't any 100+, if you can get a mid-pricer that averages 85 that should be enough to be a keeper, because it's only 5ppg off premium status, not 15.

I would just like to know who the lock ins for a 90+ average are.
I am actually not convinced with anyone.
Malceski new team - some doubts there
Simpson - proven but aging
Burgoyne - can actually see him going 90 but feel like could be rested at times given Hawks depth
Smith - one season more attention likely - doubts
Shaw - I see 90 here
Gibson - kpp is frawley doubts
Hodge - 90+ but does get odd injury
Hibberd - asada issues
Jaensch - just not convinced
Enlight - old
Birchall - injury preseason can be tagged
Kelly - can get it but often wasteful

Eski, Simpson, Shaw, Hibberd, Hurn, Smith, Hodge, Burgoyne and maybe Birchall I would back to go 90+ without injury

Ok, maybe locks wasn't the right word, but at least the top 6 of them will go 90+. It was more about considering how many points having someone averaging 85 would lose, and it's not many at all.

[GoLions]

People keep saying there's no lock premium backs but I don't really see it. Plenty of value. It just means that with the removal of these midfield "defenders" we won't see those 100+ averages. Except for maybe Malceski.

Expect your top defenders to be 90-100.

Yes, there are plenty of lock-ins for a 90+ average. But since there aren't any 100+, if you can get a mid-pricer that averages 85 that should be enough to be a keeper, because it's only 5ppg off premium status, not 15.

I would just like to know who the lock ins for a 90+ average are.
I am actually not convinced with anyone.
Malceski new team - some doubts there
Simpson - proven but aging
Burgoyne - can actually see him going 90 but feel like could be rested at times given Hawks depth
Smith - one season more attention likely - doubts
Shaw - I see 90 here
Gibson - kpp is frawley doubts
Hodge - 90+ but does get odd injury
Hibberd - asada issues
Jaensch - just not convinced
Enlight - old
Birchall - injury preseason can be tagged
Kelly - can get it but often wasteful

Eski, Simpson, Shaw, Hibberd, Hurn, Smith, Hodge, Burgoyne and maybe Birchall I would back to go 90+ without injury

Ok, maybe locks wasn't the right word, but at least the top 6 of them will go 90+. It was more about considering how many points having someone averaging 85 would lose, and it's not many at all.

Yeah you won't lose a lot, but you have to make sure you pick the right mid-pricers. As you said, only starting 1 or 2 is perfectly fine. The people who plan on starting more than that are gonna lose a fair few points though.

[H1bb3i2d]

Yeah you won't lose a lot, but you have to make sure you pick the right mid-pricers. As you said, only starting 1 or 2 is perfectly fine. The people who plan on starting more than that are gonna lose a fair few points though.

Exactly, the chances of people picking 4 solid mid-priced options in the one line is so so tiny.

[honza]

Every year someone in retrospect produces a mid price team that would have won the comp from R1.

And every year the winner goes rooks/guns.

The main reason why mid price strategy fails is that you need to nail all 22 of the selections, no exceptions. If just one of them fails and gives way 50 points that means losing at the end of the year by 1,000 points.

[H1bb3i2d]

Every year someone in retrospect produces a mid price team that would have won the comp from R1.

And every year the winner goes rooks/guns.

The main reason why mid price strategy fails is that you need to nail all 22 of the selections, no exceptions. If just one of them fails and gives way 50 points that means losing at the end of the year by 1,000 points.

And also the sheer amount of trades you need with a team full of mid-pricers. These retrospect teams don't include the half a dozen injured blokes that you need to trade out, and 6 is pretty conservative. Factor these in, plus a couple of inevitable failed mid-pricers/rookies, perhaps even a failed premium, and you will never have enough trades to finish a successful mid-priced team into 22 premiums.

[AaronKirk]

Have to consider Geary after his performance today. Played pure mid and racked up the ball with ease. 25 disposals, 6 rebound 50's, 3 inside 50's 152 SC points.

Savage had 20 disposals off half back at 80% efficiency for 102 SC points as well.