Make a Big Call 2015

[Drak]

Stephan Martin will be #1 RUC by year's end. No other RUC will average more than 101.4

But ruckmen have been given extra ways to accumulate points?

Not that I've heard of??

Thought the only change was RUC now get 5 points for an effective hit out and 0 for ineffective hit outs - previously they got 3 for an effective one and 1 for an ineffective one

According to Fantasy Freako:

Top 5 rucks for hit-to-adv % since 2012 (min 25 gms)

Hampson (32.2%)
Jacobs (31.9%)
Maric (28.5%)
Goldy (28.3)
Nic Nat (27.5)

This means in order for you to break even under this new scoring system you would need to have a hit-to-adv % of ~33.5% (better than the #1)

If we assume that ALL rucks have the save % as Nic Nat (27.5%) then, everything else being equal, rucks are overvalued by 11%

Wow..... I just went back through everything I read...

Lucky you gave me a good old fashioned schlapp. How I read through the initial info was just a +5 to effective. And happily read over the zero from an ineffective..... Then went on a hunt for some numbers. Do they really think 10 points less than last year? I don't know what to bloody do now.

[timtim]

haha didn't mean to be a schlapp, really just a long train of thought

we know that all rucks will be overvalued because of the new scoring system, but I guess no one really knows by exactly how much.

I can't find explicit stats on effective NAB HOs so it's a bit finger in the air kind of stuff

[Drak]

haha didn't mean to be a schlapp, really just a long train of thought

we know that all rucks will be overvalued because of the new scoring system, but I guess no one really knows by exactly how much.

I can't find explicit stats on effective NAB HOs so it's a bit finger in the air kind of stuff

Surely the super coach stats from the NAB is a fair indicator of how its going to progress? Jacobs looks out of sorts. Im scared now. Thanks Tim.

[GoLions]

haha didn't mean to be a schlapp, really just a long train of thought

we know that all rucks will be overvalued because of the new scoring system, but I guess no one really knows by exactly how much.

I can't find explicit stats on effective NAB HOs so it's a bit finger in the air kind of stuff

Surely the super coach stats from the NAB is a fair indicator of how its going to progress? Jacobs looks out of sorts. Im scared now. Thanks Tim.

I doubt most of the top rucks would have even been trying tbh, except maybe in the last NAB game

[Samm79]

Stephan Martin will be #1 RUC by year's end. No other RUC will average more than 101.4

But ruckmen have been given extra ways to accumulate points?

Not that I've heard of??

Thought the only change was RUC now get 5 points for an effective hit out and 0 for ineffective hit outs - previously they got 3 for an effective one and 1 for an ineffective one

According to Fantasy Freako:

Top 5 rucks for hit-to-adv % since 2012 (min 25 gms)

Hampson (32.2%)
Jacobs (31.9%)
Maric (28.5%)
Goldy (28.3)
Nic Nat (27.5)

This means in order for you to break even under this new scoring system you would need to have a hit-to-adv % of ~33.5% (better than the #1)

If we assume that ALL rucks have the save % as Nic Nat (27.5%) then, everything else being equal, rucks are overvalued by 11%

Agree with everything bar the 11% overvalued comment. They may be 11% overvalued from a points from hitout perspective but if all other factors are equal and hitouts provide circa 30% of a rucks score then they're overvalued by 3.3%, hope that makes sense  :D

[Samm79]

And my big call is Parker to go 117 and win the Brownlow, Giants to finish higher than Richmond

[Drak]

Stephan Martin will be #1 RUC by year's end. No other RUC will average more than 101.4

But ruckmen have been given extra ways to accumulate points?

Not that I've heard of??

Thought the only change was RUC now get 5 points for an effective hit out and 0 for ineffective hit outs - previously they got 3 for an effective one and 1 for an ineffective one

According to Fantasy Freako:

Top 5 rucks for hit-to-adv % since 2012 (min 25 gms)

Hampson (32.2%)
Jacobs (31.9%)
Maric (28.5%)
Goldy (28.3)
Nic Nat (27.5)

This means in order for you to break even under this new scoring system you would need to have a hit-to-adv % of ~33.5% (better than the #1)

If we assume that ALL rucks have the save % as Nic Nat (27.5%) then, everything else being equal, rucks are overvalued by 11%

Agree with everything bar the 11% overvalued comment. They may be 11% overvalued from a points from hitout perspective but if all other factors are equal and hitouts provide circa 30% of a rucks score then they're overvalued by 3.3%, hope that makes sense  :D

Yeah I did the math, that makes way more sense. So its still gonna come down to which champ ruck men are still champs.

[PiPies]

I will have more than one trade left for SC finals this year

[Grufflez]

I will finish top 300.  ;D

27 thousandth  lol now that's a large discrepancy  :-X

[PowerBug]

Better call, Westhoff 130 average and a Brownlow

[Ricochet]

KStevens to average 100+

[meow meow]

KStevens to average 100+

Has he grown a brain? Good physical specimen who has absolutely terrible decision making and even worse awareness.

[timtim]

Stephan Martin will be #1 RUC by year's end. No other RUC will average more than 101.4

But ruckmen have been given extra ways to accumulate points?

Not that I've heard of??

Thought the only change was RUC now get 5 points for an effective hit out and 0 for ineffective hit outs - previously they got 3 for an effective one and 1 for an ineffective one

According to Fantasy Freako:

Top 5 rucks for hit-to-adv % since 2012 (min 25 gms)

Hampson (32.2%)
Jacobs (31.9%)
Maric (28.5%)
Goldy (28.3)
Nic Nat (27.5)

This means in order for you to break even under this new scoring system you would need to have a hit-to-adv % of ~33.5% (better than the #1)

If we assume that ALL rucks have the save % as Nic Nat (27.5%) then, everything else being equal, rucks are overvalued by 11%

Agree with everything bar the 11% overvalued comment. They may be 11% overvalued from a points from hitout perspective but if all other factors are equal and hitouts provide circa 30% of a rucks score then they're overvalued by 3.3%, hope that makes sense  :D

The 11% is actually a reference to their starting value ($) not their SC-points output. That said, after one round my prediction of no one averaging more than 101.4 is looking on the ball

[crowls]

Daisy, Lumumba, Cloke and Heater will all fire. The Pie link  ;D

not the best call

[PowerBug]

Daisy, Lumumba, Cloke and Heater will all fire. The Pie link  ;D

not the best call

Did anything in this entire thread actually happen though?