Guys if i start Goldy-Nic Nat....

[H1bb3i2d]

Would Lycett be a better option than Belly?  He's $418k but, to quote the Player Profile thread:

Lycett is now the Eagles 2nd ruck along with Nic Nat.Eagles gave him a decent amount of games in 2014 to ready him and the team for life without Coxy,however Coxy may have retired from playing but is still with the Eagles as their ruck coach,which should be more than beneficial to him and Nic Nat.He should post some alright scores this year,he should ruck in tandem with Nic Nat and spend time forward as well.
Scores without Cox 2014
rd 13 GC 104
rd 14 Saints 89
rd 17 Lions 117
rd 19 Crows 68
rd 23 GC 108

Still think he'll average around 90, and be 10 points short of what you'd want as a keeper forward.

[Ricochet]

Goldy I can see playing 22 easy, its Nic Nat im worried about. Sure he is a premium scorer but his body is still a little fragile, especially given the way he plays relies on his athletecism. Im probably going a nankervis, but im super nervous about it.

As long as it doesn't happen in the early rounds he should rise in price fast enough to be a straight swap to another premo.
2010: 22
2011: 20
2012: 20
2013: 11
2014: 20 isn't as bad as people seem to think other than the 11 game year.

nah you don't need Belly with those 2.

It's those 2 games missed a year that are the killer though, would hate to have to waste a trade just to cover a couple of donuts. And then what happens when the guy you just traded in gets a rest the week later??

My point would be that by starting a rookie instead of Bellchambers (and there appears lot of fwd rookie options),  you can start 1 more keeper in your side, and youve already saved yourself 1 trade by having one less player to upgrade. If you need to trade for cover later, well youve probably got a for more points in the meantime by having an extra premium.

If a decent rookie option pops up then everything changes for everyone.

[Keeper27]

Salem. Hogan. Clarke. Daniel. Lambert. Steele. Laverde.

All ok options. And TBH i think they'll avg 75ish. Not far off the 80 most people think TBC will avg. Cheaper too

[Ricochet]

sorry I meant rookie ruck. If one pops up then there is obviously no need for Belly in the fwd line

[H1bb3i2d]

Salem. Hogan. Clarke. Daniel. Lambert. Steele. Laverde.

All ok options. And TBH i think they'll avg 75ish. Not far off the 80 most people think TBC will avg. Cheaper too

Clark's fitness is always a worry. Will Daniel get many games? He's never been a huge possession winner either. Lambert needs to be upgraded. Steele is only a maybe starter. I'm not sure how I see Laverde in the starting 21, either. Would have to get ahead of Chappy, Merret x 2, Winderlich, Cooney, Kavanagh etc. first, otherwise he'll only be getting inconsistent games/vests.

And none can cover your ruckmen when they inevitably miss a match or 2.

[H1bb3i2d]

sorry I meant rookie ruck. If one pops up then there is obviously no need for Belly in the fwd line

We're all hoping!

[Grufflez]

Would Lycett be a better option than Belly?  He's $418k but, to quote the Player Profile thread:

Lycett is now the Eagles 2nd ruck along with Nic Nat.Eagles gave him a decent amount of games in 2014 to ready him and the team for life without Coxy,however Coxy may have retired from playing but is still with the Eagles as their ruck coach,which should be more than beneficial to him and Nic Nat.He should post some alright scores this year,he should ruck in tandem with Nic Nat and spend time forward as well.
Scores without Cox 2014
rd 13 GC 104
rd 14 Saints 89
rd 17 Lions 117


rd 19 Crows 68
rd 23 GC 108

IMO yes, and if NicNat gets injured...

[Grufflez]

Salem. Hogan. Clarke. Daniel. Lambert. Steele. Laverde.

All ok options. And TBH i think they'll avg 75ish. Not far off the 80 most people think TBC will avg. Cheaper too

Clark's fitness is always a worry. Will Daniel get many games? He's never been a huge possession winner either. Lambert needs to be upgraded. Steele is only a maybe starter. I'm not sure how I see Laverde in the starting 21, either. Would have to get ahead of Chappy, Merret x 2, Winderlich, Cooney, Kavanagh etc. first, otherwise he'll only be getting inconsistent games/vests.

And none can cover your ruckmen when they inevitably miss a match or 2.

I think Clarke is wishful thinking like Waters & Krooz turn out to be, maybe later in the season.

[Ricochet]

Salem. Hogan. Clarke. Daniel. Lambert. Steele. Laverde.

All ok options. And TBH i think they'll avg 75ish. Not far off the 80 most people think TBC will avg. Cheaper too

Clark's fitness is always a worry. Will Daniel get many games? He's never been a huge possession winner either. Lambert needs to be upgraded. Steele is only a maybe starter. I'm not sure how I see Laverde in the starting 21, either. Would have to get ahead of Chappy, Merret x 2, Winderlich, Cooney, Kavanagh etc. first, otherwise he'll only be getting inconsistent games/vests.

And none can cover your ruckmen when they inevitably miss a match or 2.

Um yes he has ???

[bowyanger]

Look at it in a simple mathematical manner

CD has admitted openly to a new point structure for HO to advantage for rucks

In simple terms this means all ruckmans scoring potential is going to increase

If you can get a #1 ruckman at a club into your SC forward line  like Belly then common sense must prevail

There actually is no other ruck in this position I think

If Belly doesn't have an ASADA ban during season proper and he is not in your team...more fool you

He is actually a pretty handy player IMO

For the record Im starting Nic Nat and Goldy with Belly in FWDs...have been looking at Lycett pretty closely

[Holz]

Look at it in a simple mathematical manner

CD has admitted openly to a new point structure for HO to advantage for rucks

In simple terms this means all ruckmans scoring potential is going to increase

If you can get a #1 ruckman at a club into your SC forward line  like Belly then common sense must prevail

There actually is no other ruck in this position I think

If Belly doesn't have an ASADA ban during season proper and he is not in your team...more fool you

He is actually a pretty handy player IMO

For the record Im starting Nic Nat and Goldy with Belly in FWDs...have been looking at Lycett pretty closely

Actually they are predicted to drop in average because their hitouts dont get points anymore. Supercoach has most of the top rucks losing about 10 points, I had belly beofre the changes.

[bowyanger]

Look at it in a simple mathematical manner

CD has admitted openly to a new point structure for HO to advantage for rucks

In simple terms this means all ruckmans scoring potential is going to increase

If you can get a #1 ruckman at a club into your SC forward line  like Belly then common sense must prevail

There actually is no other ruck in this position I think

If Belly doesn't have an ASADA ban during season proper and he is not in your team...more fool you

He is actually a pretty handy player IMO

For the record Im starting Nic Nat and Goldy with Belly in FWDs...have been looking at Lycett pretty closely

Actually they are predicted to drop in average because their hitouts dont get points anymore. Supercoach has most of the top rucks losing about 10 points, I had belly beofre the changes.

Yes your right

I just read around FF posts and found this out

Sorry Ive only got interested in SC again this week

What a wonderful source of info FF is

[H1bb3i2d]

Salem. Hogan. Clarke. Daniel. Lambert. Steele. Laverde.

All ok options. And TBH i think they'll avg 75ish. Not far off the 80 most people think TBC will avg. Cheaper too

Clark's fitness is always a worry. Will Daniel get many games? He's never been a huge possession winner either. Lambert needs to be upgraded. Steele is only a maybe starter. I'm not sure how I see Laverde in the starting 21, either. Would have to get ahead of Chappy, Merret x 2, Winderlich, Cooney, Kavanagh etc. first, otherwise he'll only be getting inconsistent games/vests.

And none can cover your ruckmen when they inevitably miss a match or 2.

Um yes he has ???

2013 - "as an underaged player he averaged 17 disposals across 10 games"

2014 - "Daniel managed to average 20 disposals at 90 per cent efficiency"

Also, "In three SANFL games since the championships he’s averaged 16 disposals a game at 84 per cent efficiency."

Sorry I haven't got the greatest stats here, but he's not a particularly prolific player, just does exceptional things when he has it.

The highlight of his underage career was a 27 touch game by the sounds of things, and he also scored 217 CD (SC) points from 21 touches (3 goals) one time.

http://boundforglorynews.com/2014-draft-profile-caleb-daniel/

[dmac07]

In simple terms this means all ruckmans scoring potential is going to increase

Not actually true, based on last years all top 10 ruckman would score less points. Jacobs is the only one who would have averaged the same (0.3 less per game). A ruckman will need 33% hit outs to advantage to get more points than under the old scoring systwm.

[Ricochet]

Salem. Hogan. Clarke. Daniel. Lambert. Steele. Laverde.

All ok options. And TBH i think they'll avg 75ish. Not far off the 80 most people think TBC will avg. Cheaper too

Clark's fitness is always a worry. Will Daniel get many games? He's never been a huge possession winner either. Lambert needs to be upgraded. Steele is only a maybe starter. I'm not sure how I see Laverde in the starting 21, either. Would have to get ahead of Chappy, Merret x 2, Winderlich, Cooney, Kavanagh etc. first, otherwise he'll only be getting inconsistent games/vests.

And none can cover your ruckmen when they inevitably miss a match or 2.

Um yes he has ???

2013 - "as an underaged player he averaged 17 disposals across 10 games"

2014 - "Daniel managed to average 20 disposals at 90 per cent efficiency"

Also, "In three SANFL games since the championships he’s averaged 16 disposals a game at 84 per cent efficiency."

Sorry I haven't got the greatest stats here, but he's not a particularly prolific player, just does exceptional things when he has it.

The highlight of his underage career was a 27 touch game by the sounds of things, and he also scored 217 CD (SC) points from 21 touches (3 goals) one time.

http://boundforglorynews.com/2014-draft-profile-caleb-daniel/

Averaging 20 possies a game is decent man