Thoughts on Dan Hannenbery

[SydneyRox]

Swans mids change roles weekly that's hard to give me confidence to pick them

Strength of our team, nightmare for fantasy!

IMO - McVeigh will be called upon to spend time down back this year, but they will also be trying to get Mitchell and Heeney into the mid rotations somewhere.

Having said that, JPK, Parker, Hanners, K.Jack will be the dominant mids, my money is on Parker to continue to rise.

[Capper]

First tag will always go to either Dan Han or JPK

Swans players dont usually have consistant scoring in fantasy

[locknload]

I would stay away.
The Swans just have too much depth.
Especially in SC where the score is not based on quantity but quality (ie Player Ranking) on top of the 3300 rule there is a strict amount of points to go around.
As previous posters have mentioned -
Kennedy
McVeigh
Jack
Hannerbery
Parker
Franklin (a FWD but including him from a 3300 points perspective)
Mitchell (if he starts)
It just becomes a bit too hard and any one of them going off will take away from the other.
If I had to pick a Swan player with a gun to my head I would go Parker.

[My Chumps]

Thing is Hannebery has never played that forward role that KJ, Mitchell and to a lesser extent Parker have. Mcveigh will play further back now too with Malceski's absence.

I can only see Hanners playing in the guts/on a wing, so I really don't think he'll be as affected by our stacked midfield as the other guys.

[SydneyRox]

plus, we are going to win 22 games, so more points for us!!

:)

[Ricochet]

We worried about the Total Points cap in SC when we were talking about Buddy last preseason and how Swans would steal points off each other

JPK improved 105 to 109 from the year before
Hannebery improved 95 to 101
McVeigh stayed the same 105 to 104
Parker improved 86 to 108
Buddy improved 90 to 99
McGlynn improved 71 to 100
Bird improved 73 to 88
Jetta improved 61 to 75

Only key player was KJack who dropped  109 to 103

Honestly, I've never let the points cap worry me. If they're good enough they'll get the footy

[My Chumps]

We worried about the Total Points cap in SC when we were talking about Buddy last preseason and how Swans would steal points off each other

JPK improved 105 to 109 from the year before
Hannebery improved 95 to 101
McVeigh stayed the same 105 to 104
Parker improved 86 to 108
Buddy improved 90 to 99
McGlynn improved 71 to 100
Bird improved 73 to 88
Jetta improved 61 to 75

Only key player was KJack who dropped  109 to 103

Honestly, I've never let the points cap worry me. If they're good enough they'll get the footy

Malceski leaving helps with the cap as well.

I wasn't really concerned about the cap tho, more the issue of limited midfield time that can hurt players scores such as KJ last season.

[Deadly6]

We worried about the Total Points cap in SC when we were talking about Buddy last preseason and how Swans would steal points off each other

JPK improved 105 to 109 from the year before
Hannebery improved 95 to 101
McVeigh stayed the same 105 to 104
Parker improved 86 to 108
Buddy improved 90 to 99
McGlynn improved 71 to 100
Bird improved 73 to 88
Jetta improved 61 to 75

Only key player was KJack who dropped  109 to 103

Honestly, I've never let the points cap worry me. If they're good enough they'll get the footy

All came from Mitchell, will he claim them back this year?

[SydneyRox]

We worried about the Total Points cap in SC when we were talking about Buddy last preseason and how Swans would steal points off each other

JPK improved 105 to 109 from the year before
Hannebery improved 95 to 101
McVeigh stayed the same 105 to 104
Parker improved 86 to 108
Buddy improved 90 to 99
McGlynn improved 71 to 100
Bird improved 73 to 88
Jetta improved 61 to 75

Only key player was KJack who dropped  109 to 103

Honestly, I've never let the points cap worry me. If they're good enough they'll get the footy

All came from Mitchell, will he claim them back this year?

Not sure how you figure that? Mitchell averaged 86 from 12 games in 2013. Most likely the points (and the room in the midfield) came from ROK 100.7 avg in 2013

[Grufflez]

If Hannenbery is still on the rise and Mitchell is to come in surely some of the other mids are going to lose some points..it's a very fine midfield.
Actually seems kind of hard to gauge who will drop a few points while others rise, other than JPK ,the others seem to move up and down a bit each year in scoring as players emerge.

[H1bb3i2d]

Ooooooor, maybe if they're good enough to get their hands on the footy, it means they'll have it and the opposition won't, and they'll just steal points off the other team??

Honestly can't think of a single time the 3300 point rule and high scoring teammates has been the reason player X didn't average more.

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JPK improved 105 to 109 from the year before
Hannebery improved 95 to 101
McVeigh stayed the same 105 to 104
Parker improved 86 to 108
Buddy improved 90 to 99
McGlynn improved 71 to 100
Bird improved 73 to 88
Jetta improved 61 to 75

Only key player was KJack who dropped  109 to 103

Honestly, I've never let the points cap worry me. If they're good enough they'll get the footy

Those are year end averages right? The scores ranged week to week (JPK was really consistent though).
Take Franklin.. He was god awful in the beginning and his price plummeted.
Now follow this logic.
If someone had Player X instead of Buddy at the beginning and then traded him in at his lowest.. wouldnt they have scored more points in total? Getting maximum value for Buddy for his good games and not paying for his bad games?

[Ricochet]

JPK improved 105 to 109 from the year before
Hannebery improved 95 to 101
McVeigh stayed the same 105 to 104
Parker improved 86 to 108
Buddy improved 90 to 99
McGlynn improved 71 to 100
Bird improved 73 to 88
Jetta improved 61 to 75

Only key player was KJack who dropped  109 to 103

Honestly, I've never let the points cap worry me. If they're good enough they'll get the footy

Those are year end averages right? The scores ranged week to week (JPK was really consistent though).
Take Franklin.. He was god awful in the beginning and his price plummeted.
Now follow this logic.
If someone had Player X instead of Buddy at the beginning and then traded him in at his lowest.. wouldnt they have scored more points in total? Getting maximum value for Buddy for his good games and not paying for his bad games?

Yes, but whats that got to do with the total points cap and Sydney players stealing points off each other?

[locknload]

Yes, but whats that got to do with the total points cap and Sydney players stealing points off each other? -

These are all of Hanneberys scores from last year.

58,57,107,82,67,113,138,123,159,97,104,137,55,54,65,104,154

Some games he crushed.. a few of them he ranked poorly.

What I was getting at in my last post.. You would treat each week with the same logic as DFS (Daily Fantasy Sports.. think Centrebet and AFL Fantasy Punt).
Hanneberys SC Price is 542k.
Since this topic is around selecting him from the start - you would ask yourself each week.. am I getting the 542k worth from him?

In Games 1 2 4 5 10 13 14 15 the answer is no.
I know he is a good player, he passes the eye test. So why the low scores? What happened Rounds 1 - 4.
It is clear his floor is 55 - 65. He notched 5 out of a possible 16 in the bracket.

Wouldn't you want to go with a safer pick? Where the Standard Deviation is much smaller?
Personally I would much rather have Brad Crouch or Andrew Swallow then most of the Swans midfield.
I also dont view Hannebery finishing in the top 10 mids.

Now if your instincts have him as a keeper and to never trade him out of your squad you can dismiss this logic as you would of gone through the ups and downs and your overall ROI will be in that ballpark.
But if you don't see him there in your Finals team then you may have better options else where.

[GoLions]

Now if your instincts have him as a keeper and to never trade him out of your squad you can dismiss this logic as you would of gone through the ups and downs and your overall ROI will be in that ballpark.
But if you don't see him there in your Finals team then you may have better options else where.

I don't think anyone would be picking him as a steping stone. You'd be in it for the ups and the downs.