Rocky + Ablett - Do We Really Need To Start With At Least One?

Chelskiman · February 11, 2015, 05:49:50 PM

Both are obviously mighty expensive, but that aside, do we think they can still both go big this season? Rocky's season was insane last year, but can we do it all again? Even if he drops 5 points a season, it will still be a fantastic season, but teams will surely look to target him a bit more. Do we think he can start off with a 125+ average over the first 5 or so games, which would just about justify his starting price.

As for Ablett, well Gold Coast are seemingly on the rise, and as such they should be looking to blood some more guns through the middle. This would mean Ablett spends less time there, and more time up forward. He'll still have his burst through the middle, and no doubt he'll rip it up, but will he be as consistently good as he has been in the past?

I would imagine both to be in the top 8 forwards come the end of the year, but the more I think about it the more I see them both as upgrade targets. I know we'll have to generate the cash for them during the season when we look to bring them in, but you would still think both are going to drop in price over the first few rounds, rather than rise.

For the record, I at one point had both in my team, but now I'm just down to Ablett, but I thought I'd post this up anyway for people to discuss.

pommyadam · February 11, 2015, 06:02:21 PM

at this point, I don't have either in my side

caught in between a rock and a hard place with Rocky though
I do think he will drop to around a 120 average, but that's still more expensive than the rest of the competition
but then, when he is 700k (as roughly 120 would price him at) then how the frack do I get him in? (it's not a simple sidetrade, it's still an upgrade, even from the likes of Gaj)

GM · February 11, 2015, 06:11:30 PM

Both :)

Ricochet · February 11, 2015, 06:27:01 PM

Quote from: GM on February 11, 2015, 06:11:30 PM
Both :)

strikes91 · February 11, 2015, 06:44:11 PM

Rocky would have to average 70 to be able to get him from upgrading a rookie to him. To much money to catch up. Just start him ;)

Mr.Craig · February 11, 2015, 06:53:59 PM

Quote from: strikes91 on February 11, 2015, 06:44:11 PM
Rocky would have to average 70 to be able to get him from upgrading a rookie to him. To much money to catch up. Just start him ;)

Yeah, that's the thing. If you don't start him then you'll probably have to wait half the season before getting him in.

nrich102 · February 11, 2015, 08:27:01 PM

Quote from: Ricochet on February 11, 2015, 06:27:01 PM
Quote from: GM on February 11, 2015, 06:11:30 PM
Both :)

shaker · February 12, 2015, 09:30:25 AM

Quote from: nrich102 on February 11, 2015, 08:27:01 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 11, 2015, 06:27:01 PM
Quote from: GM on February 11, 2015, 06:11:30 PM
Both :)

SydneyRox · February 12, 2015, 11:38:44 AM

Have neither. I am of the opinion Rocky will not get close to his output from last year, and GAJ can come in later.

Chelskiman · February 12, 2015, 02:58:52 PM

I like the conflicting opinions here, which is why I made the thread. Some people are saying that they won't start with either because of their prices or because they don't think they can average as well as they have done in the past whilst others are convinced they will hit the ground running and that by starting with both you won't have to find the cash later on in the year to bring them in.

Ricochet · February 12, 2015, 03:11:51 PM

Yeh I'm backing them in the keep their averages. I can't see them dropping more than 5pts in ave anyway

Chelskiman · February 12, 2015, 03:33:53 PM

Swan dropped 16 points after his 130+ year. If Rocky drops 5 points then that's still a 129 average for the season, which is huge. If Ablett drops 5 points that would be a 114 average, which he can easily do, but as I said in the OP, you would think that Gold Coast would want to start pumping some more of their guns through the middle, which may see less mid time for Ablett.

Ricochet · February 12, 2015, 03:44:41 PM

Quote from: Chelskiman on February 12, 2015, 03:33:53 PM
Swan dropped 16 points after his 130+ year. If Rocky drops 5 points then that's still a 129 average for the season, which is huge. If Ablett drops 5 points that would be a 114 average, which he can easily do, but as I said in the OP, you would think that Gold Coast would want to start pumping some more of their guns through the middle, which may see less mid time for Ablett.

Yeh but Swan was injured so kinda hard to compare.

O'meara has to come out of that GC midfield so not sure whether Ablett plays more fwd just yet. But impossible to predict really

Chelskiman · February 12, 2015, 04:19:20 PM

Quote from: Ricochet on February 12, 2015, 03:44:41 PM
Quote from: Chelskiman on February 12, 2015, 03:33:53 PM
Swan dropped 16 points after his 130+ year. If Rocky drops 5 points then that's still a 129 average for the season, which is huge. If Ablett drops 5 points that would be a 114 average, which he can easily do, but as I said in the OP, you would think that Gold Coast would want to start pumping some more of their guns through the middle, which may see less mid time for Ablett.
Yeh but Swan was injured so kinda hard to compare.

Swan played 22 games the year after he went 130+ so injuries shouldn't be an excuse, because if he wasn't 100% fit to play then he shouldn't have played at all.

Ricochet · February 12, 2015, 04:27:37 PM

Quote from: Chelskiman on February 12, 2015, 04:19:20 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 12, 2015, 03:44:41 PM
Quote from: Chelskiman on February 12, 2015, 03:33:53 PM
Swan dropped 16 points after his 130+ year. If Rocky drops 5 points then that's still a 129 average for the season, which is huge. If Ablett drops 5 points that would be a 114 average, which he can easily do, but as I said in the OP, you would think that Gold Coast would want to start pumping some more of their guns through the middle, which may see less mid time for Ablett.
Yeh but Swan was injured so kinda hard to compare.

Swan played 22 games the year after he went 130+ so injuries shouldn't be an excuse, because if he wasn't 100% fit to play then he shouldn't have played at all.

But it was pretty well publicised that he was carrying an injury. Whether he should have played or not isn't the issue. Its just a reason for his scoring dip. Which is also why he played a majority fwd and got fwd status