Marc Murphy

sammy123 · February 11, 2015, 06:49:49 PM

Great player BUT.

Pass. Gets tagged out of games to often and he has scored under 100 too many times over the past 2 years to warrant a straight up selection.

Gibbs could be the go to man

Doggoneit · February 11, 2015, 07:13:03 PM

cant be trusted enough for him to be a starter in my mids

H1bb3i2d · February 13, 2015, 01:51:29 PM

Can easily average 110, but with a high SD, definitely an upgrade target for me. May bring him in after his bye if he's at a juicy price

ronl · February 14, 2015, 10:04:15 AM

Not up with the best of the best anymore. Expect him to start where he left off and to dish up scores in the 90-120 range.

fasttrack13 · February 14, 2015, 03:31:46 PM

Quote from: ronl on February 14, 2015, 10:04:15 AM
Not up with the best of the best anymore. Expect him to start where he left off and to dish up scores in the 90-120 range.

Should give him an average of 110 which would make him nearly a top 10 mid, makes him decent pick

PICCOLLO · February 19, 2015, 08:10:49 PM

Needs to fly under the radar and avoid getting tagged. Was a gun a few years back when Judd copped the heat.
I think we know what we're getting here. 110 ppg likely

bowyanger · February 20, 2015, 11:18:27 PM

Im not a blues fan but I do like to watch Smurph play

Sublime disposal...surely Mick will be drilling the team to peel for him more?

Was at the top of his game under Ratts last few years of coaching.

MM being new coach and Smurph taking over as captain is definitely a big change in his career but he has still managed to be solid.

Had a year or 2 of slight niggles recently which caused him to drop from being considered at the same level of Pendles , Ablett & now Fyfe etc...he was definitely up there under Ratts ....Lids was in this echelon also but as revealed today - even a slightly interrupted pre season / niggle can have an effect when your playing at such a high standard (unless ur a freak like Fyfe)

Smurph high on my radar as a POD

Elite IMO and if Gibbs can step up to help attract attention from opposition it can only mean good things for Smurphs PPG output

Can kick goals, is in a team that isn't high on point stealers

kilbluff1985 · February 20, 2015, 11:47:10 PM

your dreaming if you think he WAS the same level as Ablett and Pendles

H1bb3i2d · February 20, 2015, 11:51:00 PM

Quote from: bowyanger on February 20, 2015, 11:18:27 PM
Im not a blues fan but I do like to watch Smurph play

Sublime disposal...surely Mick will be drilling the team to peel for him more?

Was at the top of his game under Ratts last few years of coaching.

MM being new coach and Smurph taking over as captain is definitely a big change in his career but he has still managed to be solid.

Had a year or 2 of slight niggles recently which caused him to drop from being considered at the same level of Pendles , Ablett & now Fyfe etc...he was definitely up there under Ratts ....Lids was in this echelon also but as revealed today - even a slightly interrupted pre season / niggle can have an effect when your playing at such a high standard (unless ur a freak like Fyfe)

Smurph high on my radar as a POD

Elite IMO and if Gibbs can step up to help attract attention from opposition it can only mean good things for Smurphs PPG output

Can kick goals, is in a team that isn't high on point stealers

As far as Lids goes, he's only ever had the one big fantasy year. The rest of the time he's never really been played as a bonafide midfielder.

bowyanger · February 20, 2015, 11:52:54 PM

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 20, 2015, 11:47:10 PM
your dreaming if you think he WAS the same level as Ablett and Pendles

Yeah I was dreaming

2011 Smurph ave 118...10 behind Yaablett and Pendles

kilbluff1985 · February 20, 2015, 11:59:02 PM

Quote from: bowyanger on February 20, 2015, 11:52:54 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 20, 2015, 11:47:10 PM
your dreaming if you think he WAS the same level as Ablett and Pendles

Yeah I was dreaming

2011 Smurph ave 118...10 behind Yaablett and Pendles

lol 10 points is pretty big especially when you entering elite status

Pendles and Ablett are super elite Murphy WAS elite but not super elite

bowyanger · February 21, 2015, 12:00:35 AM

Quote from: H1bb3i2d on February 20, 2015, 11:51:00 PM
Quote from: bowyanger on February 20, 2015, 11:18:27 PM
Im not a blues fan but I do like to watch Smurph play

Sublime disposal...surely Mick will be drilling the team to peel for him more?

Was at the top of his game under Ratts last few years of coaching.

MM being new coach and Smurph taking over as captain is definitely a big change in his career but he has still managed to be solid.

Had a year or 2 of slight niggles recently which caused him to drop from being considered at the same level of Pendles , Ablett & now Fyfe etc...he was definitely up there under Ratts ....Lids was in this echelon also but as revealed today - even a slightly interrupted pre season / niggle can have an effect when your playing at such a high standard (unless ur a freak like Fyfe)

Smurph high on my radar as a POD

Elite IMO and if Gibbs can step up to help attract attention from opposition it can only mean good things for Smurphs PPG output

Can kick goals, is in a team that isn't high on point stealers

As far as Lids goes, he's only ever had the one big fantasy year. The rest of the time he's never really been played as a bonafide midfielder.

Ave 100 + last 7 years...fair effort when for most of that time its all Richmond had

Agreed he is no Ablett or Pendles but I rate the bloke and love watching him play

I consider Smurph and Lids to be in the same teir as Ablett and Pendles

Ablett is just one out of the box...Pendles also really who has had some quality around him that Smurph and Lids haven't had

Ever played footy for a really crap team and a really good team in your career?

Makes a massive difference on your performance IMO.

Ive been flogged by 100 points and Ive been in teams that have done the opposite

Guess which team I got more of the ball in, kicked more goals in and enjoyed playing in more?

Further stamps Yaabletts brilliance I know but also puts Smurph & Lids into perspective IMO

bowyanger · February 21, 2015, 12:01:59 AM

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 20, 2015, 11:59:02 PM
Quote from: bowyanger on February 20, 2015, 11:52:54 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 20, 2015, 11:47:10 PM
your dreaming if you think he WAS the same level as Ablett and Pendles

Yeah I was dreaming

2011 Smurph ave 118...10 behind Yaablett and Pendles

lol 10 points is pretty big especially when you entering elite status

Pendles and Ablett are super elite Murphy WAS elite but not super elite

Yes I admitted I was wrong.. I wasn't being an archaeologist

Mat0369 · February 21, 2015, 12:05:31 AM

Quote from: bowyanger on February 20, 2015, 11:52:54 PM
Yeah I was dreaming

2011 Smurph ave 118...10 behind Yaablett and Pendles

and then backed it up with 164 and 109 in the finals and won the coaches association player of the year at 23. He might not have been on Gaz's level (since he has his own level) but he was pushing to catch Pendles before injury screwed up his two following seasons.

Also just another thought on Murph, he was carrying a knee issue in 2013, when you look at his kicking since that season it is not the same as what it was. He was the 2nd best goal kicking mid in the league in 2011 behind Gaz, since the knee his goal kicking and penetration have suffered.

H1bb3i2d · February 21, 2015, 12:08:24 AM

Quote from: bowyanger on February 21, 2015, 12:00:35 AM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on February 20, 2015, 11:51:00 PM
Quote from: bowyanger on February 20, 2015, 11:18:27 PM
Im not a blues fan but I do like to watch Smurph play

Sublime disposal...surely Mick will be drilling the team to peel for him more?

Was at the top of his game under Ratts last few years of coaching.

MM being new coach and Smurph taking over as captain is definitely a big change in his career but he has still managed to be solid.

Had a year or 2 of slight niggles recently which caused him to drop from being considered at the same level of Pendles , Ablett & now Fyfe etc...he was definitely up there under Ratts ....Lids was in this echelon also but as revealed today - even a slightly interrupted pre season / niggle can have an effect when your playing at such a high standard (unless ur a freak like Fyfe)

Smurph high on my radar as a POD

Elite IMO and if Gibbs can step up to help attract attention from opposition it can only mean good things for Smurphs PPG output

Can kick goals, is in a team that isn't high on point stealers

As far as Lids goes, he's only ever had the one big fantasy year. The rest of the time he's never really been played as a bonafide midfielder.

Ave 100 + last 7 years...fair effort when for most of that time its all Richmond had

Agreed he is no Ablett or Pendles but I rate the bloke and love watching him play

I consider Smurph and Lids to be in the same teir as Ablett and Pendles

Ablett is just one out of the box...Pendles also really who has had some quality around him that Smurph and Lids haven't had

Ever played footy for a really crap team and a really good team in your career?

Makes a massive difference on your performance IMO.

Ive been flogged by 100 points and Ive been in teams that have done the opposite

Guess which team I got more of the ball in, kicked more goals in and enjoyed playing in more?

Further stamps Yaabletts brilliance I know but also puts Smurph & Lids into perspective IMO

Well, Lids and Murph just aren't.

I can assure you, Gaz has played in the best and worst teams in the manner of a few years. Was the best at the Cats, and still the best at the Suns, even when they were struggling worse than the Tigers ever were (aside form the fact the Tiges could never beat them hahaha).