British XV's - 2015 Discussion Thread

Started by Ringo, February 06, 2015, 02:44:56 PM

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Ringo

I also received this reply at last.

Hi All,

We will not be running NRL or AFL fantasy this season, but head to VIRTUAL SPORTS where they have great fantasy comps running.

So nothing really exciting there so we may have to continue working on the alternate with voting underway. 

Purple 77


Ringo

Whilst it is disappointing we still have options.

Just had a look at Ultimate Footy again.

Can customize as follows:
KI    Kicks       
HB    Handballs       
MA    Marks       
HO    Hitouts       
TK    Tackles       
FF    Free Kicks For       
FA    Free Kicks Against       
FD    Free Kick Differential       
GL    Goals       
BH    Behinds       
D    Disposals    Upgrade to Stats PLUS to access this stat category.    
ED    Effective Disposals    Upgrade to Stats PLUS to access this stat category.    
IED    Ineffective Disposals    Upgrade to Stats PLUS to access this stat category.    
CP    Contested Possessions    Upgrade to Stats PLUS to access this stat category.    
R50    Rebound 50s    Upgrade to Stats PLUS to access this stat category.    
SP    Spoils    Upgrade to Stats PLUS to access this stat category.    
CL    Clearances    Upgrade to Stats PLUS to access this stat category.    

Still does not meet the current scoring completely.  Stats plus is a new add on this year and can be purchased for $29.95.  Scoring it does not allow for is clangers - 5 and Uncontested possessions.

If you think it is worth going with this including the additional Stats comment in this thread,  Happy to purchase if we in agreement.

Will be a draft comp as well.

If anyone has used Ultimate Footy before are the stats available for all players or only for players in your team.

Something to consider instead of dividing SC and DT by a factor.

Will also need to agree on the scoring as well.

Nige

Quote from: GoLions on March 15, 2015, 06:56:21 PM
Why divide by 2.3?

Ineffective or clanger possies are awarded points in DT/AF, but are either 0 or negative points in SC. Even an effective handball is worth more in the DT scoring system. It'd be terribly annoying to work out what factor to use here, so

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 15, 2015, 06:50:23 PM
Just keep it simple. SC + DT divide by 2.

Memphistopheles

Quote from: Ringo on March 17, 2015, 03:54:31 PM
Whilst it is disappointing we still have options.

Just had a look at Ultimate Footy again.

Can customize as follows:
KI    Kicks       
HB    Handballs       
MA    Marks       
HO    Hitouts       
TK    Tackles       
FF    Free Kicks For       
FA    Free Kicks Against       
FD    Free Kick Differential       
GL    Goals       
BH    Behinds       
D    Disposals    Upgrade to Stats PLUS to access this stat category.    
ED    Effective Disposals    Upgrade to Stats PLUS to access this stat category.    
IED    Ineffective Disposals    Upgrade to Stats PLUS to access this stat category.    
CP    Contested Possessions    Upgrade to Stats PLUS to access this stat category.    
R50    Rebound 50s    Upgrade to Stats PLUS to access this stat category.    
SP    Spoils    Upgrade to Stats PLUS to access this stat category.    
CL    Clearances    Upgrade to Stats PLUS to access this stat category.    

Still does not meet the current scoring completely.  Stats plus is a new add on this year and can be purchased for $29.95.  Scoring it does not allow for is clangers - 5 and Uncontested possessions.

If you think it is worth going with this including the additional Stats comment in this thread,  Happy to purchase if we in agreement.

Will be a draft comp as well.

If anyone has used Ultimate Footy before are the stats available for all players or only for players in your team.

Something to consider instead of dividing SC and DT by a factor.

Will also need to agree on the scoring as well.

Hey Ringo,

Couple of things here.

If you set up a league with the scoring then you can see every player in the AFL in that UF league (by means of the Free Agent Pool if they are not in a team) with the scores under the custom system you set up. If we used it we'd need people to transpose the statistics across to this league (check results) as I imagine it would be difficult getting everyone here to join the league.

Secondly if you want you can manually assign the amount of players get per statistic. So if the standard points don't match up to Sportal we can change that. Like the handballs being 2 in RDT and 1 in Sportal

I actually think this could be a good option to have a league which has different scoring to the other XV competitions.

We could try match as many of the Sportal scoring categories with Ultimate Footy ones. Like this perhaps.

Sportal scoring   Ultimate Footy Scoring
Kick                    =   Kick
Handball              =   Handball
Contested Poss     =   Contested Poss AND
                               Free Kick For
Uncontested Poss  =   Effective Disposals
Tackle                 =   Tackle
Hitout                 =   Hitout
Clanger                =  Ineffective Disposal AND
                               Free Kick Against
Goal                    =  Goal
Point                   =  Point

We can probably leave out Rebound 50s and Spoils.

SydneyRox

were we not voting on this?

have u got results?

Ringo

Still 4 coaches to vote SR )ne vote is clear cut atm but the other 2 are not so not. 

Vast majority are in favour of SC + DT/AF divided by a factor to be determined.

I only put the above out after getting an email about Ultimate Footy with the new Sports Plus options and asked for comments whether we could use this with a customised scoring system to align with Sportal given that now with Sports Plus we have more stats that we can customise.

Memphistopheles

Quote from: Ringo on March 18, 2015, 09:39:06 AM
Still 4 coaches to vote SR )ne vote is clear cut atm but the other 2 are not so not. 

Vast majority are in favour of SC + DT/AF divided by a factor to be determined.

I only put the above out after getting an email about Ultimate Footy with the new Sports Plus options and asked for comments whether we could use this with a customised scoring system to align with Sportal given that now with Sports Plus we have more stats that we can customise.

Yeah this scoring system was not a part of the vote that was sent out. I'd prefer to look at this perhaps than the SC+DT/?

GoLions

Quote from: Memphistopheles on March 18, 2015, 02:46:56 PM
Quote from: Ringo on March 18, 2015, 09:39:06 AM
Still 4 coaches to vote SR )ne vote is clear cut atm but the other 2 are not so not. 

Vast majority are in favour of SC + DT/AF divided by a factor to be determined.

I only put the above out after getting an email about Ultimate Footy with the new Sports Plus options and asked for comments whether we could use this with a customised scoring system to align with Sportal given that now with Sports Plus we have more stats that we can customise.

Yeah this scoring system was not a part of the vote that was sent out. I'd prefer to look at this perhaps than the SC+DT/?
Same here

Ringo

One of our coaches is working for a Sports Data company that obtains CD Data.  He is unsure until Round 1 whether we can use the spreadsheet to convert to Sportal Data.

What are everyone thoughts on this proposal.

We do SC + DT/AF divided by 2 for 2 weeks.  At the same time we see if we can get the data from this source and easily convert for us and run in parrallel then make decision going forward.

The 2 issues as I see them will be how easy to get the stats and convert to  ex Sportal Scoring System and if I can get formuale, pivots and vlookups to be compatible with the data source.


Torpedo10

Quote from: Ringo on March 20, 2015, 11:52:28 AM
One of our coaches is working for a Sports Data company that obtains CD Data.  He is unsure until Round 1 whether we can use the spreadsheet to convert to Sportal Data.

What are everyone thoughts on this proposal.

We do SC + DT/AF divided by 2 for 2 weeks.  At the same time we see if we can get the data from this source and easily convert for us and run in parrallel then make decision going forward.

The 2 issues as I see them will be how easy to get the stats and convert to  ex Sportal Scoring System and if I can get formuale, pivots and vlookups to be compatible with the data source.
I'm up for it.

SydneyRox


Nige

So we're using one scoring system for two weeks and then a different one for the rest of the season?

Purple 77


Pkbaldy

Quote from: Nige on March 20, 2015, 02:00:20 PM
So we're using one scoring system for two weeks and then a different one for the rest of the season?

We all might only just use the SC+AF/2 system, if we are unable to get the right programs to run the other system...I think.