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Bully

Quote from: Ricochet on April 07, 2015, 05:25:22 PM
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I thin Vince will push out the kids before Lumumba man, I'm holding him for now.

Not suggesting he will lose his place but will be thrown all over the park and hence his output will reduce. His game on the weekend has alarm bells ringing for me, conversely I watched Geary and he looks to have a mortgage on the sweeper role with Savage providing the run and carry. The other aspect of this trade is the issue with Cripps and the other rookies, round 1 was a lucky break with Heeney benefiting from a late goal and CEY playing in a team that demolished the opposition. I'm generally confident about Vandenberg but he's about the only one. I'm not under any delusions about Rich either, he's a 90's man but he trumps all the rookies by some margin.
Yeh thats what i mean, Vince will push out the kids from having more time on ball than Lumumba in my opinion.

Just on the topic of Vince, who gets the chop?
Probably Brayshaw you'd think. There's already talk they'll be managing his load.

Just as well I didn't pick him up then, maybe dodged a bullet.
Yeh its a shame too because he would be a very good cash cow if given a full run, I know your a big fan too

Certainly am a fan, if he is dropped then it may pay to get him on the bubble, will have to assess that at the time.

As far as all these changes are concerned, I will probably wait a week unless Cripps gets the axe or is sub. Can't hurt to have another look.

Ricochet

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Quote from: Ricochet on April 07, 2015, 04:48:02 PM
I thin Vince will push out the kids before Lumumba man, I'm holding him for now.

Not suggesting he will lose his place but will be thrown all over the park and hence his output will reduce. His game on the weekend has alarm bells ringing for me, conversely I watched Geary and he looks to have a mortgage on the sweeper role with Savage providing the run and carry. The other aspect of this trade is the issue with Cripps and the other rookies, round 1 was a lucky break with Heeney benefiting from a late goal and CEY playing in a team that demolished the opposition. I'm generally confident about Vandenberg but he's about the only one. I'm not under any delusions about Rich either, he's a 90's man but he trumps all the rookies by some margin.
Yeh thats what i mean, Vince will push out the kids from having more time on ball than Lumumba in my opinion.

Just on the topic of Vince, who gets the chop?
Probably Brayshaw you'd think. There's already talk they'll be managing his load.

Just as well I didn't pick him up then, maybe dodged a bullet.
Yeh its a shame too because he would be a very good cash cow if given a full run, I know your a big fan too

Certainly am a fan, if he is dropped then it may pay to get him on the bubble, will have to assess that at the time.

As far as all these changes are concerned, I will probably wait a week unless Cripps gets the axe or is sub. Can't hurt to have another look.
Yeh I plan to do the same with Cripps. Hoping he gets a clean run again, WCE should give up some decent points in the midifield

meow meow

Toumpas and JKH most likely to make way, Brayshaw in green IMO.

Ricochet

Yeh Toumpas was pretty average actually

Mat0369

I was chatting to a mate that is a Dees supporter, he said as much as he loves JKH he will probably make way this week

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: meow meow on April 07, 2015, 05:47:48 PM
Toumpas and JKH most likely to make way, Brayshaw in green IMO.

Agree with this

As for your team Bully, we have 3 different players - that's it!

I have Simpson to your Newnes, Danger to your JPK and Lonie to your McGrath

Everything else identical!

That's crazy

Bully

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 07, 2015, 08:38:35 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 07, 2015, 05:47:48 PM
Toumpas and JKH most likely to make way, Brayshaw in green IMO.

Agree with this

As for your team Bully, we have 3 different players - that's it!

I have Simpson to your Newnes, Danger to your JPK and Lonie to your McGrath

Everything else identical!

That's crazy

That is pretty crazy given both of us kept our cards close to our chest over the past week or so. The key for me was always the back line rookies, once KMac strutted his stuff I felt comfortable with the structure. I also strongly considered Danger but ended up going with JPK given he was under priced and consistent. Had it not been for his subbing last year he would have been up around Selwood's price, I'm pretty certain he'll be top 10. Danger should also give it a shake and I suspect he'll be on fire over the next 5-6 rounds.

RaisyDaisy

I'd be happy for you to make those trades you floated - just to increase our POD's from 3 to 5 lol

Cant believe how we both ended up so identically, but then again we spend a lot of time discussing SC and seem to be on the same wave length... good minds and all ;)

Bully

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 07, 2015, 09:37:54 PM
I'd be happy for you to make those trades you floated - just to increase our POD's from 3 to 5 lol

Cant believe how we both ended up so identically, but then again we spend a lot of time discussing SC and seem to be on the same wave length... good minds and all ;)

Indeed, our head to head battle will be interesting.....or not. Might come down to battle of the rookies.  ;D

Bully



The time is up for the great man, sorry Gaz but you are the weakest link. The problem of what to do with you is the tough one, having been set on Sloane for the past 24 hours I've decided to look at the big picture and work out how best to extinguish all my spot fires. The main ones are Goodes, Cocky & Miller so I think I need to splice up the funds and bring in some guys who look to be  cheap as chips based on production levels.

Marcus Bontempelli is a bit of a risk, that is hard to argue with. The reason I'm willing to take the plunge is he's undervalued even if he only manages a 95 average from this point on. That is probably good enough for F6 this year and as a worst case scenario, he can act as my swingman in the event players go down in the midfield or forward line. But let's talk about upside, first of all Marcus has turned in a tackling masterclass so far, 10 tackles in both matches indicates he will set a decent scoring floor in the event the taggers start to wreak havoc. The other point to consider is he's enormously athletic for a 192cm midfielder, stopping him will be no easy feat particularly if he drags the serial pests into the forward line and starts clunking big grabs. He's the closest thing to Nat Fyfe since Nat Fyfe and we all know how well he went in his second season, 108 average for those who have forgotten about his sophomore year. Bonts will hit 500k in the blink of an eye so the time is now, otherwise it will be a case of hoping for a form dip which may never come. In fact I can confidently say he will never be this cheap again.

Onto Cocky, now he has a 5 in the rolling average he may well lose cash, that makes him a priority and NVB is the man to take his place, this is a pretty straightforward trade. Miller is a worry but given GC play a lot of late Saturday games he can act as a loophole for Vandenberg who plays a lot of Saturday morning games. Hopefully he gets a reprieve and produces more than 30 down the track but for now he stays.

Now for the icing on the cake, presuming Brodie Smith gets a week off which I think will happen, he will remain on his starting price which seems to be cheap for what he is likely to produce this season. With the 295k I have in the kitty Smith will almost certainly come into the side next week and with any luck, Goodes gets dropped and remains on his 245k starting price. The worst case scenario here will be if Smith plays and scores 120+ and Goodes plays and scores less than 64, it's an unlikely scenario but it's something which may completely scuttle my plans.

If all goes to plan I will have all the above players in my side by round 4 and I will have a handy 40k in the bank to play with, possibly enough money to shift Miller out of the side and into a better cash cow. That will leave with 24 trades but a very strong squad which will hopefully be unchanged heading into round 7.   

RaisyDaisy

I'm hesitant on trading Gaz, but at the end of the day he isn't 100%, so I may just have to buckle to the pressure and let him go too

Funnily enough I was playing around with things and came up with the exact idea as you. Gaz to Bont, Cocky to NVB and Goodes to Smith, or even Fisher

I feel like I can get away with this because I started with a 5 prem midfield, but once the 3 trades are done I've essentially gone from a 3-5 def fwd to 4-4 setup with Bont at M5, which does sound pretty good actually

I'm toying with a few other options too

Ablett to JPK/Sloane and Cocky to NVB would be ideal, but the problem I have there is not having enough funds to upgrade Goodes to a good enough defender which is why Bont at 400k is so appealing

The other option I've toyed around with is dropping GAJ to NVB, then turning Belly into Goldy. I'd be stuck with Cocky, and Belly would be stiff to go, but I'd also have about 225k in the kitty after doing that meaning I could turn Goodes into a gun too

Looking forward to see Teams this Thursday, as perhaps they might influence my actual trades

Bully

I think moving to Sloane is appealing but it would leave the defence too vulnerable, this is at the heart of the decision. This is the last opportunity to sort things out before the price rises, better to be safe than sorry. As for Belly, he's the sole ruckman so should improve on his 61, he was also brought into my side with a view to keeping him for the entire season. When trades dry up Belly will be a godsend, the chances of Nic Nat & Goldy lasting all season are next to zero. As for Fisher, I think he looks the goods but Smith is a midfielder now so a 105 average is on the cards. At his price he's cheap and it's kind of fortuitous that he was knocked out because it gives us an extra week to make a move (no disrespect to Brodie who I hope makes a speedy recovery).


crowls

Quote from: Bully on April 13, 2015, 08:19:10 PM
I think moving to Sloane is appealing but it would leave the defence too vulnerable, this is at the heart of the decision. This is the last opportunity to sort things out before the price rises, better to be safe than sorry. As for Belly, he's the sole ruckman so should improve on his 61, he was also brought into my side with a view to keeping him for the entire season. When trades dry up Belly will be a godsend, the chances of Nic Nat & Goldy lasting all season are next to zero. As for Fisher, I think he looks the goods but Smith is a midfielder now so a 105 average is on the cards. At his price he's cheap and it's kind of fortuitous that he was knocked out because it gives us an extra week to make a move (no disrespect to Brodie who I hope makes a speedy recovery).
Is smith definitely out this week.      I really want to go KK or Goodes to Smith.    No downgrades necessary.   Just need the cash.   If didnt have bont would go your route.   Instead GAJ to JPK and Lambert to NVB.   Only 53K in Bank so cant upgrade to Smith next week.   

Bully

Quote from: crowls on April 15, 2015, 07:10:33 AM
Quote from: Bully on April 13, 2015, 08:19:10 PM
I think moving to Sloane is appealing but it would leave the defence too vulnerable, this is at the heart of the decision. This is the last opportunity to sort things out before the price rises, better to be safe than sorry. As for Belly, he's the sole ruckman so should improve on his 61, he was also brought into my side with a view to keeping him for the entire season. When trades dry up Belly will be a godsend, the chances of Nic Nat & Goldy lasting all season are next to zero. As for Fisher, I think he looks the goods but Smith is a midfielder now so a 105 average is on the cards. At his price he's cheap and it's kind of fortuitous that he was knocked out because it gives us an extra week to make a move (no disrespect to Brodie who I hope makes a speedy recovery).
Is smith definitely out this week.      I really want to go KK or Goodes to Smith.    No downgrades necessary.   Just need the cash.   If didnt have bont would go your route.   Instead GAJ to JPK and Lambert to NVB.   Only 53K in Bank so cant upgrade to Smith next week.   

It's not definite but I will still have some cash to sustain a first price rise, provided he doesn't score over 120. The worst case scenario is Goodes playing and being sub, this would be a disaster and may put Brodie out of reach. I may have to settle for a cheaper defender in that case, not something I want to do because I'm not convinced any of the others will be top 6. The main point here is the rookies are producing premium scores so i don't see the point in speculating about defensive keepers at this early stage.