Team Attempt 4003

Started by LordSneeze, February 05, 2015, 11:00:44 PM

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LordSneeze

Thoughts on my team would be appreciated. Post link to yours and will reciprocate.

Backs: Simpson - Shaw - Newnes - Thompson - Waters - Goodes (Goddard, Viojo-Rainbow)
Mids: J Kennedy - Ward - Watson - Boak - B Crouch - Acres - Van Berlo - Biggs (Heeney, Boekhorst, Freeman)
Ruck: Goldstein - Nic Nat (Cox)
Forwards: Gray - Deledio - Swan - Salam - Hogan - Knight (Steele, Daniel)

Defence: Im looking at one of Goodes, Whitecross or Brown as D6. If both Goodes and Whitecroos are playing im considering dropping Thompson for one.
Mids: This is my structure without Ablett, with Ablett I drop Crouch to Rich and can upgrade any premo to Ablett.
Rucks: Locked for me bar injury etc
FWD: Tossing up which premiums to take, for the rookies I see a lot of money making ability in the forward line and with the large amount of premiums it is the best spot for upgrades.

fasttrack13

Drop Goodes he won't play.
Need 2 of: Gaz, Rocky, Fyfe, Pendles atleast. Purpose is super premos= captain scores!
Ricks are guns.
Forwards need more power!

Crouch> Krakeour
Goodes> rookie (placeholder)
Knight > Premo.

LordSneeze

Made some pretty big changes that I think makes it a bit more solid across all lines

Backs: Birchall - Houli - Newnes - Adcock - Waters - Brown (Goddard, Viojo-Rainbow)
Mids: Ablett - Pendlebury - Ward - Barlow - Acres - Van Berlo - Biggs -Heeney (Dumont, Boekhorst, Freeman)
Ruck: Goldstein - Nic Nat (Cox)
Forwards: Goddard - Franklin - Swan - Martin - Hogan - Knight (Steele, Daniel)

Obviously rookies will be altered over the NAB cup. With defence im not really convinced that the higher price defenders are that much more safe than these ones, but it means you can get more definite locks in other lines.

LordSneeze

#3
Considering something a little different

Backs: Simpson - Shaw - Smith - Hibberd - Houli - Newnes (Goddard, Viojo-Rainbow)
Mids: Ablett - Pendles - Selwood - Acres - NVB - Biggs - Heeney - Boekhorst  (Vandenberg, Krackour, Freeman)
Ruck: Goldstein - Nic Nat (Cox)
Forwards: Gray - Goddard - Martin - Clark - Hogan - Saad (Steele, Daniel)

BYES - 10/10/11 Very nice balance IMO,

Basically im considering
A 6 man defence that I hope could potentially be a set and forget using the bench as cash generating positions and coverage if needed.
Only 3 Premium Mids, but only top of the pile players and at least 1 for every bye round. I see the most value in the rookies and low price players in the Midfield. M4-6 I have good confidence in JS and reasonable scoring, each should provide a good stepping stone for an upgrade.
Rucks - set and forget
Fwds - 3 premiums and 5 rookies. I am considering Goddard or Martin down to Swan and leaving a bit of extra cash in the kitty for the rookies and or an earlier upgrade and 1 less downgrade trade.

I know a lot of people wont like the 3 premium midfield, but unless I see more value showup in defence over the NAB cup a tradeoff needs to be made somewhere. With Kreuzer going down it makes Rucks more difficult to do and im not a big fan of the midprice strategy.

Mat0369

I tried something similar in defense and wasn't a fan of it when I looked back at it. I think you do need at least 4 premium mids so it might be worth doing some shuffling, even if it is a cheap premo. Gray at close to 600 k is the guy I would look at using to free up some cash, so maybe him, Hibbo and Houli downgraded to Buddy, Lumumba and Ricky Henderson which will allow you to turn Acres into Jack Steven.

Actually after typing that out I don't like that either. It might be better off going Houli to a max rookie priced play like WhiteX as a filler, Gray to Buddy and then Acres to the best premium you can afford. Worst case go for a cheaper premo ahead of Hibbo who has ASADA clouds over him to get in some more cash

LordSneeze

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 17, 2015, 12:06:18 AM
I tried something similar in defense and wasn't a fan of it when I looked back at it. I think you do need at least 4 premium mids so it might be worth doing some shuffling, even if it is a cheap premo. Gray at close to 600 k is the guy I would look at using to free up some cash, so maybe him, Hibbo and Houli downgraded to Buddy, Lumumba and Ricky Henderson which will allow you to turn Acres into Jack Steven.

Actually after typing that out I don't like that either. It might be better off going Houli to a max rookie priced play like WhiteX as a filler, Gray to Buddy and then Acres to the best premium you can afford. Worst case go for a cheaper premo ahead of Hibbo who has ASADA clouds over him to get in some more cash

Houli is one i have no intention of getting rid of. He is going to be 27 this year, Over the last 4 years he has only missed 2 games and had averages of 89, 83, 91, 83. Last year he only had 7/22 matches scoring under 80.  Is a massive POD being in only 1.5% of teams. At worst he is going to be a very solid D4/D5 in a fully upgraded team.

Lumumba im not sold on, everyone is getting worked up about how good he is going to be but he has only once in 8 years averaged over 80. There isn't any indication that this is a guarentee to change. Yes he could go off, but for me that is too much of a risk at his price.

Henderson will unlikely to have a rebounding role in defence. He is really injury prone. Again at his price he is too much of a risk for someone that has the potential to have an average under 70.

The whole idea behind this is to not have to many midpricers who may or may not become locks. Gray is one i would love to have in, but with the lack of rookies could be better off as a Swan and $130k. Hibberd im holding at the moment waiting for the ASADA announcement, changing him to a Birchall or another premium around that price willl free another $20k. If a 3rd rookie defender comes available it would allow an upgrade in the midfield.
This is more so a contigency plan option if there just isn't enough available.

LordSneeze

Backs
Shaw, Johnson, Houli, Newnes, Lumumba, Watson (Clurey, Brown)
Mids
Ablett, Selwood, Kennedy, Crouch, Cripps, Biggs, Lang, Boekhorst (Vandenberg, Freeman, Lambert)
Rucks
Goldy, Z. Smith (Cox)
Forwards
Gray, Martin, Swan, Clark, Karnezis, Hogan (Saad, H. Goddard)

Ideas: Have gone a little different defensively with 3 premium, 2 breakout and 1 mid price.
In the mids i went 3 uber premiums and Crouch who i see as being a potential breakout. At worst he will be a good M8 or stepping stone.
Im not convinced with Nic Nat's fitness yet and with the changes to the ruck rules i can see Smith having a breakout year.
Forwards are where i skimped a little. 3 premiums and 3 rookies. Hogan is a lock for a solid 70. Mlark and Karnezis im not convinced on yet, but they are good $ for filler rookies.

I have chosen to go Watson in Defence and Hugh Goddard in Forwards so i can swing the 2 depending on the availabilities of rookies. Provides quite a few more options. Same thing with Lambert in the mids, more swing options. I wouldn't be surprised if i move lambert to the forwards before the season starts.

The difficulty i see in the mids is who to leave on the bench. Especially if people like Anderson, Lang, Vandenberg, Cripps, Biggs, Freeman are all playing.

LordSneeze

Would love some feedback, happy to rate other teams if you post your link here too.

$52k in the kitty for rookie changes

Backs
Shaw, Houli, Newnes, Lumumba, Geary, Pearce (Goddard, Saad)
Mids
Ablett, Selwood, Beams, Griffin, Cripps, Biggs, Lang, Heeney (Vandenberg, Freeman, Amon)
Rucks
Jacobs, Lobbe (Cox)
Forwards
Gray, Martin, Swan, Belcho, Clark, Karnezis (Hogan, Lambert)

Backs
Am going a risky strategy here. Ill be happy if 2 of Newnes, Lumumba, Geary, Pearce can get 80-90 with the other 2 getting 70-80. This would be good steeping stones to the performing defenders. It would also mean only 3 trades are needed to upgrade to a full premium defence. The savings that are gained by taking on these players I can see better uses for in other lines.
Bye structure: 1/5/2

Midfield
3 super premos + griffin (Willing to look at other players around the 550-500k mark for this spot and potentially upgrade to a 600k if I have cash after rookies announced and changed). Going 2 of the 200k rookies, at this stage Cripps and Biggs seem the best options, but not discounting NVB or de Goey. Remaining spots for rookies. Should need between 10-12 trades to fully upgrde the line.
Bye structure: 3/3/5

Rucks
Jacobs is the best ruck available, but is pricey. I am going him as no one else has really stood up yet as a safe pick. I can see Lobbe as being a great POD and think he will improve this year partially natural progression and with Ryder coming in he will likely stay fresher throughout the year. No Trades needed.
Bye structure: 1/1/1

Forwards
Gray, Martin and Swan are locks. Have gone Bellchambers as I see him being at worst a good stepping stone while also providing cover to the rucks. Clark and Karnezis are still under observation and reckon I will drop 1 before the season starts.
5-6 trades needed.
Bye structure: 2/3/3

I should need 20 trades to finish the team, leaving 10 for injuries, fixits and other things.
Bye Structure 7/12/11
I like the bye structure as it means I should be able to have 20 players available on each week.

Overall I really like this team probably my favourite version so far, I feel that all the mid pricers I have should have a good chance to become premium for that position and rookies have enough room for moment to get the correct ones n come week 1. I cant really see anything I don't like about this team and would appreciate anyone picking it apart.


madskill55

Quote from: LordSneeze on March 08, 2015, 08:10:21 PM
Would love some feedback, happy to rate other teams if you post your link here too.

$52k in the kitty for rookie changes

Backs
Shaw, Houli, Newnes, Lumumba, Geary, Pearce (Goddard, Saad)
Mids
Ablett, Selwood, Beams, Griffin, Cripps, Biggs, Lang, Heeney (Vandenberg, Freeman, Amon)
Rucks
Jacobs, Lobbe (Cox)
Forwards
Gray, Martin, Swan, Belcho, Clark, Karnezis (Hogan, Lambert)

Backs
Am going a risky strategy here. Ill be happy if 2 of Newnes, Lumumba, Geary, Pearce can get 80-90 with the other 2 getting 70-80. This would be good steeping stones to the performing defenders. It would also mean only 3 trades are needed to upgrade to a full premium defence. The savings that are gained by taking on these players I can see better uses for in other lines.
Bye structure: 1/5/2

Midfield
3 super premos + griffin (Willing to look at other players around the 550-500k mark for this spot and potentially upgrade to a 600k if I have cash after rookies announced and changed). Going 2 of the 200k rookies, at this stage Cripps and Biggs seem the best options, but not discounting NVB or de Goey. Remaining spots for rookies. Should need between 10-12 trades to fully upgrde the line.
Bye structure: 3/3/5

Rucks
Jacobs is the best ruck available, but is pricey. I am going him as no one else has really stood up yet as a safe pick. I can see Lobbe as being a great POD and think he will improve this year partially natural progression and with Ryder coming in he will likely stay fresher throughout the year. No Trades needed.
Bye structure: 1/1/1

Forwards
Gray, Martin and Swan are locks. Have gone Bellchambers as I see him being at worst a good stepping stone while also providing cover to the rucks. Clark and Karnezis are still under observation and reckon I will drop 1 before the season starts.
5-6 trades needed.
Bye structure: 2/3/3

I should need 20 trades to finish the team, leaving 10 for injuries, fixits and other things.
Bye Structure 7/12/11
I like the bye structure as it means I should be able to have 20 players available on each week.

Overall I really like this team probably my favourite version so far, I feel that all the mid pricers I have should have a good chance to become premium for that position and rookies have enough room for moment to get the correct ones n come week 1. I cant really see anything I don't like about this team and would appreciate anyone picking it apart.



Hey mate, just going to give you a run down of my opinion:
Backs: myself i'm not sure what the best strategy to take on board at the backs but it will make or break your season. good mid priced picks. see how lamumba, geary and pearce all track prior to round 1.

Mids: good structure. i myself am a gaz-pendles, no questions asked locked in as top 2 mids in my team but each to their own. track how cripps goes but if i was going to get 2 x 200k rookies id go NVB and Newton. Both who should be in their respective teams come round 1. Biggs has an niggling injury worry and don't think cripps will score as high as NVB/Newton

Rucks: Going strong in the rucks, but with the new ruck rules i think this is the category to save money. ruckmens price should all go down on a general bell-curve distribution like in terms of SC scoring, so you could easily downgrade one of them and get nic-nat but then again you might not be a fan of him. i think he is underpriced and is value for $$$.

Forwards: can't fault it at all. like it.

overall your team is decent. id downgrade one of your ruck man, play around with a couple of mid rookies and put all the money into your backs. mid-priced may be the way to go this year down back but I see this team having around 10-12 keepers, if you can try and get 1 more premium defender down there would be a great team.

LordSneeze

Quote from: madskill55 on March 08, 2015, 08:33:17 PM
Quote from: LordSneeze on March 08, 2015, 08:10:21 PM
Would love some feedback, happy to rate other teams if you post your link here too.

$52k in the kitty for rookie changes

Backs
Shaw, Houli, Newnes, Lumumba, Geary, Pearce (Goddard, Saad)
Mids
Ablett, Selwood, Beams, Griffin, Cripps, Biggs, Lang, Heeney (Vandenberg, Freeman, Amon)
Rucks
Jacobs, Lobbe (Cox)
Forwards
Gray, Martin, Swan, Belcho, Clark, Karnezis (Hogan, Lambert)

Backs
Am going a risky strategy here. Ill be happy if 2 of Newnes, Lumumba, Geary, Pearce can get 80-90 with the other 2 getting 70-80. This would be good steeping stones to the performing defenders. It would also mean only 3 trades are needed to upgrade to a full premium defence. The savings that are gained by taking on these players I can see better uses for in other lines.
Bye structure: 1/5/2

Midfield
3 super premos + griffin (Willing to look at other players around the 550-500k mark for this spot and potentially upgrade to a 600k if I have cash after rookies announced and changed). Going 2 of the 200k rookies, at this stage Cripps and Biggs seem the best options, but not discounting NVB or de Goey. Remaining spots for rookies. Should need between 10-12 trades to fully upgrde the line.
Bye structure: 3/3/5

Rucks
Jacobs is the best ruck available, but is pricey. I am going him as no one else has really stood up yet as a safe pick. I can see Lobbe as being a great POD and think he will improve this year partially natural progression and with Ryder coming in he will likely stay fresher throughout the year. No Trades needed.
Bye structure: 1/1/1

Forwards
Gray, Martin and Swan are locks. Have gone Bellchambers as I see him being at worst a good stepping stone while also providing cover to the rucks. Clark and Karnezis are still under observation and reckon I will drop 1 before the season starts.
5-6 trades needed.
Bye structure: 2/3/3

I should need 20 trades to finish the team, leaving 10 for injuries, fixits and other things.
Bye Structure 7/12/11
I like the bye structure as it means I should be able to have 20 players available on each week.

Overall I really like this team probably my favourite version so far, I feel that all the mid pricers I have should have a good chance to become premium for that position and rookies have enough room for moment to get the correct ones n come week 1. I cant really see anything I don't like about this team and would appreciate anyone picking it apart.



Hey mate, just going to give you a run down of my opinion:
Backs: myself i'm not sure what the best strategy to take on board at the backs but it will make or break your season. good mid priced picks. see how lamumba, geary and pearce all track prior to round 1.

Mids: good structure. i myself am a gaz-pendles, no questions asked locked in as top 2 mids in my team but each to their own. track how cripps goes but if i was going to get 2 x 200k rookies id go NVB and Newton. Both who should be in their respective teams come round 1. Biggs has an niggling injury worry and don't think cripps will score as high as NVB/Newton

Rucks: Going strong in the rucks, but with the new ruck rules i think this is the category to save money. ruckmens price should all go down on a general bell-curve distribution like in terms of SC scoring, so you could easily downgrade one of them and get nic-nat but then again you might not be a fan of him. i think he is underpriced and is value for $$$.

Forwards: can't fault it at all. like it.

overall your team is decent. id downgrade one of your ruck man, play around with a couple of mid rookies and put all the money into your backs. mid-priced may be the way to go this year down back but I see this team having around 10-12 keepers, if you can try and get 1 more premium defender down there would be a great team.

Thanks

Defence: This is the issue, Im not convinced by anyone being a keeper including the more expensive options which is why im looking at the mid pricers through D4-6. Brown is looking a bit better with Frost taking the number 1 forward each week could equate to a few more points. May be a solid D8 with some small cash value
Mids: I agree Gaz and Pendles would be stronger, but I went Selwood to provide the captain option in R12 and save a little cash. Biggs is indeed injured, niggling hamstring so im considering dropping him for Newton. Cripps and NVB I think will average about the same, but will be watching them closely.
Rucks: Jacobs was the only ruck projected to not drop on last years average. He is expensive, but I reckon you will get what you pay for. Potenially I could swap Lobbe to Nic Nat, but im worried about his back. Once I get to see him play in preseason I might make a decision to swap it.
forwards: there are lots of rookie priced options here. Lamb, Lonie, Clark, Karneszis, Hogan, Lambert. The difficulty will be to get the right ones into the team.

LordSneeze

Backs
Shaw, Houli, Johnson, Newnes, Lumumba, Max 250k Def (Goddard, Saad)
Mids
Pendles, Selwood, Priddis, Griffin, Rich, Newton, Cripps, Ellis Yolman (Vandenberg, Heeney, Lang)
Rucks
Goldy, Maric (O'Brien)
Forwards
Bartel, Martin, Swan, Clark, Salam, Hogan (Lamb, Lambert)

Backs
Im hoping Goodes gets promoted as the first choice for D6, but also have the option of downgrading rich and turning into an extra premium.

Midfield
3 super premos + griffin + Rich. Going 2 of the 200k rookies, at this stage Cripps and Newton seem the best options.
Remaining spots for rookies.

Rucks
Not sold on Nic Nat, and think going safe here with Goldy and Maric is the best option especially without cover.

Forwards
Would have loved to keep Gray, but needed the extra $. If Bartel keeps the mid time that is expected he should at worst be able to match Gray over the first 6 rounds.

LordSneeze

Thoughts please. Happy to rate back.

Backs
Shaw, Houli, Johnson, Newnes, Lumumba, Goodes (Brown, Saad)
Mids
GAJ, Fyfe, Priddis, Griffin, Sheed, Cripps, Cockatoo, Ellis Yolman (Miller, Heeney, Lambert)
Rucks
Goldy, Maric (O'Brien)
Forwards
Bartel, Martin, Bontempelli, Belly, Clark, Salam (Lamb, Hogan)

Am happy with my defence and don't think I will make any changes to it for R1
Im a little worried about Selwood, not sure why but I just am. So I switched him to Priddis I see him as a good premium to have as a POD. Sheed and Cripps are there as placeholders (going 2 at the 200k range). The rest will be chosen as teams named, but feel confident with them all
Set and forget ruck, with Belly as DPP for Loophole and any injuries.
Not going Swan as I don think he will average more than 95. Bontempelli I expect to average 100 with Libba going down injured.

Hayden7

Great team. Not much else to do there. Lots of PODS could do well. Good luck!

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