Krooz, Leuey, Belly and the DPP Saga

Started by RaisyDaisy, February 03, 2015, 12:08:11 PM

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Nige

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 31, 2015, 06:48:59 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 31, 2015, 06:47:41 PM
Me:  ??? Mummy and Maric  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Everybody else: yayayayayaya Belly ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I hope that works for you man, and I might be too cautious here, but if Mummy or Maric miss a week or two then sucks to be you :P
They won't.  ;)


Bones Bombers

Quote from: Bully on March 31, 2015, 06:50:22 PM
Belly only has to last 2 rounds and then the price rises kick in. After that he can be switched back to the forward line and you can pick up the best ruck on offer.
HUh, how are you going to pick up a premo ruck after 2 rounds? You've lost me.

AlexIsOnFire

I'm going Maric and Nic Nat, I am tempted to try get Bellchambers in but I can't do it with a fwd line of Bartel, Bennell, Gunston, Swan, Salem and Clark

Huttabito

Quote from: AlexIsOnFire on March 31, 2015, 08:29:15 PM
I'm going Maric and Nic Nat, I am tempted to try get Bellchambers in but I can't do it with a fwd line of Bartel, Bennell, Gunston, Swan, Salem and Clark
Can't swing Swan/Bennell into your MID?

smashbox

Im playing Belly at R2, my reasoning that he is definately going to go up in price being the solo ruck can see him atleast averaging 80. Jacobs has not had a preseason so can see him having a few low scores, then when he bottoms out doing a trade with belly to get him in. Sorted

eaglesman

Quote from: Bully on March 31, 2015, 06:50:22 PM
Belly only has to last 2 rounds and then the price rises kick in. After that he can be switched back to the forward line and you can pick up the best ruck on offer.

Sir I would like to know if you have any empty league spots so I can monitor your side ....

I think I am practically always thinking along the same lines as you

_wato

Quote from: Bones Bombers on March 31, 2015, 08:06:23 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 31, 2015, 06:50:22 PM
Belly only has to last 2 rounds and then the price rises kick in. After that he can be switched back to the forward line and you can pick up the best ruck on offer.
HUh, how are you going to pick up a premo ruck after 2 rounds? You've lost me.

You've lost me also.. Do you have a $500k forward that you're upgrading or what is the deal there? Because what you said means you won't be trading TBC and you'll sub him forward, yet you all of a sudden have a ruck premo, who are in excess of $500k.. Do you have cash that nobody else has, or are you stating that price rises kick in and it's only a matter of time before you can jump upto a premium.. Because you won't be able to do that after 2 rounds, surely?

Bully

Quote from: Bones Bombers on March 31, 2015, 08:06:23 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 31, 2015, 06:50:22 PM
Belly only has to last 2 rounds and then the price rises kick in. After that he can be switched back to the forward line and you can pick up the best ruck on offer.
HUh, how are you going to pick up a premo ruck after 2 rounds? You've lost me.

May not be a premo, could be Kreuzer for example. Getting the cash shouldn't be difficult once some of these rookies have a couple of price rises. Cripps to Neal-Bullen for example would net 180k, add that to Salem's price and you probably get Lycett. If DPP's aren't your thing then ditch Belly and buy the best available, he should be 350k in round 4 so even buying into Ryder is achievable.

eaglesman

Quote from: _wato on March 31, 2015, 09:30:44 PM
Quote from: Bones Bombers on March 31, 2015, 08:06:23 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 31, 2015, 06:50:22 PM
Belly only has to last 2 rounds and then the price rises kick in. After that he can be switched back to the forward line and you can pick up the best ruck on offer.
HUh, how are you going to pick up a premo ruck after 2 rounds? You've lost me.

You've lost me also.. Do you have a $500k forward that you're upgrading or what is the deal there? Because what you said means you won't be trading TBC and you'll sub him forward, yet you all of a sudden have a ruck premo, who are in excess of $500k.. Do you have cash that nobody else has, or are you stating that price rises kick in and it's only a matter of time before you can jump upto a premium.. Because you won't be able to do that after 2 rounds, surely?

what he is more planning on is starting with belly ... And then switching him forward for ruck cover later ... Hoping that he can upgrade one of his forwards eventually to a premo ruck

I think it is a good strategy as when all these premo rucks leak cash which they will he will pick them up at a discounted rate from an appreciated rookie ...

Bully is just taking a risk that he and his other ruck do not cop early Injuries ... Big risk but calculated

H1bb3i2d

Quote from: barlowlove on March 31, 2015, 02:40:00 PM
Okay guys, been hatching this plan ASADA pending, going to put it into place now and wanted your thoughts.

I'm going to start Belly at R2, with a R/F basement priced R3. This is because I think Belly represents excellent value and isn't too injury prone compared to others around his price. Then, one of my first upgrades most likely around Rounds 6-8 will be a forward rookie who has mooed to a Ruck Premo who has fallen, swinging Belly forward to cover my rucks.

The main reasoning behind this plan is that I don't have enough confidence in any premo Ruck other than Goldy to pick them at their current prices. It means I also get an extra Fwd premo compared to those who start Belly at F4.

The main hole in it, is that I wont have cover until I swing Belly fwd, but
I'm willing to take that risk in the early part of the season.

Have had Belly at R2 for at least the last month just for this. Would rather start an extra premium forward and upgrade to a ruck than vice versa. You won't lose points by having a guy at $300k averaging 85, and you'll gain points when everyone else cops ruck donuts or uses trades on short-term injuries.

Don't know how people can write him off as a hack because of an injury-ruined year. Then again, I could never fathom how people wrote the whole team off as guilty because of certain journalists' evidence-less opinions.

eaglesman

Quote from: H1bb3i2d on March 31, 2015, 10:00:33 PM
Quote from: barlowlove on March 31, 2015, 02:40:00 PM
Okay guys, been hatching this plan ASADA pending, going to put it into place now and wanted your thoughts.

I'm going to start Belly at R2, with a R/F basement priced R3. This is because I think Belly represents excellent value and isn't too injury prone compared to others around his price. Then, one of my first upgrades most likely around Rounds 6-8 will be a forward rookie who has mooed to a Ruck Premo who has fallen, swinging Belly forward to cover my rucks.

The main reasoning behind this plan is that I don't have enough confidence in any premo Ruck other than Goldy to pick them at their current prices. It means I also get an extra Fwd premo compared to those who start Belly at F4.

The main hole in it, is that I wont have cover until I swing Belly fwd, but
I'm willing to take that risk in the early part of the season.

Have had Belly at R2 for at least the last month just for this. Would rather start an extra premium forward and upgrade to a ruck than vice versa. You won't lose points by having a guy at $300k averaging 85, and you'll gain points when everyone else cops ruck donuts or uses trades on short-term injuries.

Don't know how people can write him off as a hack because of an injury-ruined year. Then again, I could never fathom how people wrote the whole team off as guilty because of certain journalists' evidence-less opinions.

This my move

Bully

Quote from: eaglesman on March 31, 2015, 09:49:18 PM
Quote from: _wato on March 31, 2015, 09:30:44 PM
Quote from: Bones Bombers on March 31, 2015, 08:06:23 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 31, 2015, 06:50:22 PM
Belly only has to last 2 rounds and then the price rises kick in. After that he can be switched back to the forward line and you can pick up the best ruck on offer.
HUh, how are you going to pick up a premo ruck after 2 rounds? You've lost me.

You've lost me also.. Do you have a $500k forward that you're upgrading or what is the deal there? Because what you said means you won't be trading TBC and you'll sub him forward, yet you all of a sudden have a ruck premo, who are in excess of $500k.. Do you have cash that nobody else has, or are you stating that price rises kick in and it's only a matter of time before you can jump upto a premium.. Because you won't be able to do that after 2 rounds, surely?

what he is more planning on is starting with belly ... And then switching him forward for ruck cover later ... Hoping that he can upgrade one of his forwards eventually to a premo ruck

I think it is a good strategy as when all these premo rucks leak cash which they will he will pick them up at a discounted rate from an appreciated rookie ...

Bully is just taking a risk that he and his other ruck do not cop early Injuries ... Big risk but calculated

Culling the rookies early is definitely not ideal and if there's an injury in round 3 or nothing to trade down to then it could become problematic. But it's not the end of the world either. As a last resort one could trade into Krakouer and get a loophole player, again this is an absolute worst case scenario.

By round 4 Cripps, Newton etc should be viable enough if one needs cash, I'd be pretty confident that there will be one decent downgrade target. As the weeks pass the task will become increasingly more manageable and the options will start to open up. The collective money earning capacity of two rookies in two weeks of price rises is enough to get the job done if worst comes to worst. 

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: H1bb3i2d on March 31, 2015, 10:00:33 PM
Have had Belly at R2 for at least the last month just for this. Would rather start an extra premium forward and upgrade to a ruck than vice versa. You won't lose points by having a guy at $300k averaging 85, and you'll gain points when everyone else cops ruck donuts or uses trades on short-term injuries.

Don't know how people can write him off as a hack because of an injury-ruined year. Then again, I could never fathom how people wrote the whole team off as guilty because of certain journalists' evidence-less opinions.

Can you explain that part Hib? By having Belly at R2 you wont have any cover until rd6-8 when you upgrade a fwd rookie to a prem ruck, so wont you cop donuts and lose points which is the opposite of what you said there in bold? Or am I missing something (which I could be, because I'm pretty mentally drained right now!)

barlowlove

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 31, 2015, 10:13:05 PM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on March 31, 2015, 10:00:33 PM
Have had Belly at R2 for at least the last month just for this. Would rather start an extra premium forward and upgrade to a ruck than vice versa. You won't lose points by having a guy at $300k averaging 85, and you'll gain points when everyone else cops ruck donuts or uses trades on short-term injuries.

Don't know how people can write him off as a hack because of an injury-ruined year. Then again, I could never fathom how people wrote the whole team off as guilty because of certain journalists' evidence-less opinions.

Can you explain that part Hib? By having Belly at R2 you wont have any cover until rd6-8 when you upgrade a fwd rookie to a prem ruck, so wont you cop donuts and lose points which is the opposite of what you said there in bold? Or am I missing something (which I could be, because I'm pretty mentally drained right now!)

I think he's referring to after he swings Belly forward, compared to those who don't have Belly at all

eaglesman

Quote from: barlowlove on March 31, 2015, 10:20:38 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 31, 2015, 10:13:05 PM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on March 31, 2015, 10:00:33 PM
Have had Belly at R2 for at least the last month just for this. Would rather start an extra premium forward and upgrade to a ruck than vice versa. You won't lose points by having a guy at $300k averaging 85, and you'll gain points when everyone else cops ruck donuts or uses trades on short-term injuries.

Don't know how people can write him off as a hack because of an injury-ruined year. Then again, I could never fathom how people wrote the whole team off as guilty because of certain journalists' evidence-less opinions.

Can you explain that part Hib? By having Belly at R2 you wont have any cover until rd6-8 when you upgrade a fwd rookie to a prem ruck, so wont you cop donuts and lose points which is the opposite of what you said there in bold? Or am I missing something (which I could be, because I'm pretty mentally drained right now!)

I think he's referring to after he swings Belly forward, compared to those who don't have Belly at all