Krooz, Leuey, Belly and the DPP Saga

[H1bb3i2d]

there's as much risk at picking as there is Shane Mumford, almost certainly gonna get injured at some point, but at least Mummy has a lot more upside and scoring ability.

i understand the reasoning in getting these mid priced guys, i really do.
yes premos CAN get injured, does not mean you dont pick them because of that reason.

with that kinda thinking dont pick Gazza, he MIGHT re-injure his shoulder.
dont pick pendles he's missed 4 games in the last 3 years.
dont pick rocky he missed 3 games last year.

you pick em because they are premos and they score.

in the last 3 years Kreuz 18 x tons, Leue 12 x tons, Belly 10 x tons = 40
Jacobs 34 x tons, Goldy 37 x tons, NicNat 31 x tons.

you do what you must, i'll be going set & forget.
your mid pricers WILL get injured at some point and the upsides dont look that great either.

And your premium will still miss a game or 2, so what are you going to do if you have no cover?

[Mat0369]

And your premium will still miss a game or 2, so what are you going to do if you have no cover?

If I was picking Mummy I am also picking Lobb to cover him getting injured. I also know how big of an injury risk Mummy is which is why I am not picking him and potentially picking Lobb anyway to cover those 1 week ones that do pop up

[H1bb3i2d]

And your premium will still miss a game or 2, so what are you going to do if you have no cover?

If I was picking Mummy I am also picking Lobb to cover him getting injured. I also know how big of an injury risk Mummy is which is why I am not picking him and potentially picking Lobb anyway to cover those 1 week ones that do pop up

That's what we're all hoping for, a cheap guy to play.

[dmac07]

Anyone else looking at risking having no cover if a rookie ruck isn't around round 1? I took Bellchambers out of my side for a rookie fwd and used the cash to help upgrade my rucks.

Starting - Jacobs, Nic Nat (Cox) - No bell chambers forward. Jacobs is pretty durable played every game in previous 2 seasons, missed only 3 games in two seasons before that. Nic Nat is a risk, but sounds like he is in pretty good shape, played a minimum of 20 games in 3 of the last 4 years.

[frenzy]

instead of going Belly in the forwards as Ruck coverage, why not? go with another keeper/ premo and keep them all season there for coverage. Somebody like a Ryder or Hale or Zac clarke.

Because Ryder is more then likely going to be under a huge cloud with ASADA and suspensions to go along with trying to figure out how he works in a new structure at a new team. The other two won't average over 100 so they aren't keepers and are a waste of space in your team

And Bellchambers is immune to ASADA is this what i'm reading. So why pick him in the first place?

really sick of this essendon shieght.

[Mat0369]

And Bellchambers is immune to ASADA is this what i'm reading. So why pick him in the first place?

really sick of this essendon shieght.

Nope, but he is around 200k less so he has more appeal. Plus we 100% know that Ryder is one of the ones that took the substance in question while we aren't sure about Bellchambers

[RaisyDaisy]

Fantasy Freako @FantasyFreako 
Tom Bellchambers' hitout-to-advantage rate (29.7%) was better than Goldstein, Lobbe, Minson, Mumford and Nic Nat's in 2014. #SuperCoach

Fantasy Freako @FantasyFreako   
In 2012, Bellchambers avg. 101 #SuperCoach points when Ryder was out (6 games). In 2013, he avg. 90 (5 games missed by Ryder).

Seriously, as long as he is fit and playing round 1 he is locked for me

People are talking about spending similar money on guys like McMillian, but this guy has the stats, potential and very important ruck coverage

I've been pro Belly all pre-season, and only ASADA or an injury can change that

We need cover. If you have a mid, fwd or def that gets injured or is out, you have bench options, but if there is no ruck cheapo's then we need him, IMO of course

[Mat0369]

With the ruck changes I hadn't seen anything on his hit out to advantage numbers before today (without a doubt the most difficult stat to find online), if he is going at 29% he is locked somewhere between R2 and my forward line if there are no ruck rookies. I figured they were pretty crappy so his previous seasons would have been inflated due to high hit out totals. I have been his biggest doubter but at 29% he has to be considered.

[H1bb3i2d]

Fantasy Freako @FantasyFreako 
Tom Bellchambers' hitout-to-advantage rate (29.7%) was better than Goldstein, Lobbe, Minson, Mumford and Nic Nat's in 2014. #SuperCoach

Fantasy Freako @FantasyFreako   
In 2012, Bellchambers avg. 101 #SuperCoach points when Ryder was out (6 games). In 2013, he avg. 90 (5 games missed by Ryder).

Seriously, as long as he is fit and playing round 1 he is locked for me

People are talking about spending similar money on guys like McMillian, but this guy has the stats, potential and very important ruck coverage

I've been pro Belly all pre-season, and only ASADA or an injury can change that

We need cover. If you have a mid, fwd or def that gets injured or is out, you have bench options, but if there is no ruck cheapo's then we need him, IMO of course

Let all the stupid people calling him a spud leave him out of their teams, please, it's for the best hahaha.

[Nige]

And your premium will still miss a game or 2, so what are you going to do if you have no cover?

If I was picking Mummy I am also picking Lobb to cover him getting injured. I also know how big of an injury risk Mummy is which is why I am not picking him and potentially picking Lobb anyway to cover those 1 week ones that do pop up

I've flirted with the idea of having a GWS ruck (Lobb) on my bench as cover for Mummy, but until I know which one (Lobb, Downie, Phillips) is definitely in line to replace him, I'm keeping Nank as R3.

[BlackOrWhite]

Will Jonathan Giles see much ruck time?

[Mat0369]

Will Jonathan Giles see much ruck time?

I would still think so but if Belcho can average 25 hitouts at 29% that is 36.25 points and that is attainable. To put this in perspective, some other options might go 30/23 which would be in total of 34.5 points. So even with a lower hitout number dude to sharing ruck duties his hit outs to advantage percentage could make him a viable option

[Holz]

Go set and forget and spare the heartache

The heartache that worries me is if one of my set and forget rucks misses a week or two with a minor injury. Having to trade out a gun just for a week or two to avoid a donut will be extremely annoying, and history says its going to happen most likely because it's not often that a ruck plays all games throughout the year, which is why I want Belly as cover

Obviously a cheap ruck popping up would solve all our problems, but I just don't like the odds of that happening

again you're depending on a "MAYBE" situation on premos.
Premos Set & Forget is a "IF" they get injuredsituation.
you relying on mid priced guys is only a matter of "WHEN"

Goldstein
2014: 21 games
2013: 22
2012: 20



20/21 games might look good on the surface, but the fact is that premo rucks raaaarely play a full season and generally miss one/two games even in a good year. Thats why cover is so important early on. You can't cop a donut or waste trades on 1-2 week injuries.

Goldy was dropped for those two games in 2012 he wasnt injured. Feel pretty safe with him, only one game missed with injury in the last 3 years.

[dmac07]

Go set and forget and spare the heartache

The heartache that worries me is if one of my set and forget rucks misses a week or two with a minor injury. Having to trade out a gun just for a week or two to avoid a donut will be extremely annoying, and history says its going to happen most likely because it's not often that a ruck plays all games throughout the year, which is why I want Belly as cover

Obviously a cheap ruck popping up would solve all our problems, but I just don't like the odds of that happening

again you're depending on a "MAYBE" situation on premos.
Premos Set & Forget is a "IF" they get injuredsituation.
you relying on mid priced guys is only a matter of "WHEN"

Goldstein
2014: 21 games
2013: 22
2012: 20



20/21 games might look good on the surface, but the fact is that premo rucks raaaarely play a full season and generally miss one/two games even in a good year. Thats why cover is so important early on. You can't cop a donut or waste trades on 1-2 week injuries.

Goldy was dropped for those two games in 2012 he wasnt injured. Feel pretty safe with him, only one game missed with injury in the last 3 years.

So if you have the cash to go Goldy/Jacobs. They have player 87/88 games between them the last two years. I like those odds.

[honza]

MEANWHILE, AT THE TRIBUNAL...