Refurbished Team - Thoughts?

Started by Sven, January 26, 2015, 11:06:25 AM

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Sven

Hello all,

Woohoo! First post on FanFooty!! :D Yay!

Being the SC nut that I am (like most on here it seems!), I've been getting a head start on 2015.

At this stage, I'm fairly happy with the side. Of course, there will be heaps of tweaking, but I can see most of it staying the same.

Love to hear the thoughts of the FanFooty community on this side, here we go!




Swedish Meatballs 2015

DEF: N. Malceski, L. Hodge, M. Hibberd, J. Newnes, B. Waters, H. Goddard (D. McKenzie, H. Wigg)

Discussion: Malceski was an instant lock. Hodge and Hibberd were one of many combinations I looked at, but both very solid players, Newnes is my left-field choice here, hopefully he continues to improve. Waters is the risky mid-price option everyone has and the rookies, are well interchangeable dependent on pre-season form.

CTR: G. Ablett, S. Pendlebury, N. Fyfe, R. Griffen, D. Wells, N. Van Berlo, B. Boekhorst, N. Freeman (I. Heeney, T. Dumont, K. Lambert)

Discussion: I set myself the goal of having Ablett, Pendlebury and Fyfe all in and I got it. This being said, with them all having a Rd 12 bye, it does through a spanner in the works. Not all locked in yet. Griffen at GWS will see a return to 110+ I hope. Wells is my left-field mid-price option here. If he's fit and firing, he'll average 90+ easy. Van Berlo is another must have this year too (little bit of a sheep...). As for the rookies....again, they will change, but I'm happy at the moment. Can see all but Lambert getting early games.

RUC: T. Goldstein, N. Naitanui (M. Cox)

Dicussion: Plenty of #1 options here, but I settled on Goldstein for two reasons. a) North supporter b) Cheaper than Jacobs so money could be spend elsewhere. Nic Nat was a no-brainer after Cox retiring too but I will keep an eye on injuries. As for the rookie spot, having only one makes it tough, but Mason Cox seemed to be the best of a bad bunch.

FWD: R. Gray, J. Bartel, D. Swan, T. Bellchambers, M. Clark, J. Hogan (C. Daniel, N. Krakouer)

Discussion: Reckon this will be the stock standard 2015 forward line. Well at least Gray, Swan, Clark, Hogan, Daniel and Krakouer. Membrey, Bellchambers, Bartel, Franklin, Deledio, Goddard will fill out the other spots lol. I did have T. Mitchell in there for a long time as my left-field choice instead of Bellchambers, and he may return......wait and see closer to Rnd 1 to see JS.




So, yeah, thats the team so far.

Possible immediate tweakings might include:

Bellchambers and Wells <-------> T. Mitchell and C. Petracca / A. Brayshaw

But thats really it for now....

Well hope you like it and happy Supercoaching to all! :D

ben_020285

Hey mate. Welcome!

DEF: Personally I think Malceski is a bit of an unknown at GC and I think we should be able to pick him up at a cheaper price but I can understand the selection. Hodge is getting on a bit too and it's almost a certainty that he won't play all 22 games due to being injured/rested.

MID: I'm not sure how Griffen will go at GWS this year so would prefer it if a bit extra was spent on a different kid who is more likely to be a keeper. I don't like the Wells pick. The midfield is not the place to pick a midpricer. Guns and rookies only.

RUC: Goldstein and Nic Nat are the perfect combo imo. Think about swapping Cox for Read for loophole purposes.

FWD: Gray is very expensive and I think we will be able to pick him up for a much cheaper price at some stage. Not sure about the Bartel pick either as he is getting old and his role is an unknown this year. Would prefer to see two of Deledio/Goddard/Franklin/Martin picked as F1/F2. Swan is great value and I like the Belly pick as he is capable of averaging 90+ and becoming a great F7 plus he provides coverage with that RUC/FWD link.

Sven

Quote from: ben_020285 on January 26, 2015, 09:53:41 PM
Hey mate. Welcome!

DEF: Personally I think Malceski is a bit of an unknown at GC and I think we should be able to pick him up at a cheaper price but I can understand the selection. Hodge is getting on a bit too and it's almost a certainty that he won't play all 22 games due to being injured/rested.

MID: I'm not sure how Griffen will go at GWS this year so would prefer it if a bit extra was spent on a different kid who is more likely to be a keeper. I don't like the Wells pick. The midfield is not the place to pick a midpricer. Guns and rookies only.

RUC: Goldstein and Nic Nat are the perfect combo imo. Think about swapping Cox for Read for loophole purposes.

FWD: Gray is very expensive and I think we will be able to pick him up for a much cheaper price at some stage. Not sure about the Bartel pick either as he is getting old and his role is an unknown this year. Would prefer to see two of Deledio/Goddard/Franklin/Martin picked as F1/F2. Swan is great value and I like the Belly pick as he is capable of averaging 90+ and becoming a great F7 plus he provides coverage with that RUC/FWD link.

Appreciate the comments!

I'm going to back in Bartel and Hodge, just look at Brent Harvey. Still going strong at 36, and averaging over 100. But if push comes to shove, I'll probably look at H. Shaw, G. Birchall and one of B. Goddard or B. Deledio.

As for the likes of Gray and Malceski being too expensive.....it's like when people say Ablett is too expensive, and then he smashes it at the start. I'm not willing to waste any trades this year saving a few thousand dollars to bring in the best. This is how you burn through trades. But do see your point of view.

Thanks again. :)

nrich102

I don't think the problem with Malceski is his price, it's about how he will be used at Gold Coast.

Nice team mate, can't really fault it.

Sven

Possible tweaking...

IN: B. Goddard, H. Shaw, S. Mitchell, J. Selwood
OUT: R. Gray, N. Malceski, D. Wells, N. Fyfe

Better or worse?

quinny88

Starting Goddard and Shaw is smarter than Gray and Malceski.
Selwood and Fyfe are on Par so nothing lost there.
Sam Mitchell is as bad of a pick as Wells though. Its fine if your happy with 100-105 avg but I would be looking elsewhere

Sven

Quote from: quinny88 on January 28, 2015, 01:51:54 AM
Starting Goddard and Shaw is smarter than Gray and Malceski.
Selwood and Fyfe are on Par so nothing lost there.
Sam Mitchell is as bad of a pick as Wells though. Its fine if your happy with 100-105 avg but I would be looking elsewhere

Surely someone at Hawthorn will average over 110. If anyone will do it, surely it'd be Sam Mitchell. Just thought at his price, it was too hard to pass up.... :/

Nige

Quote from: Sven on January 28, 2015, 09:57:48 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 28, 2015, 01:51:54 AM
Starting Goddard and Shaw is smarter than Gray and Malceski.
Selwood and Fyfe are on Par so nothing lost there.
Sam Mitchell is as bad of a pick as Wells though. Its fine if your happy with 100-105 avg but I would be looking elsewhere

Surely someone at Hawthorn will average over 110. If anyone will do it, surely it'd be Sam Mitchell. Just thought at his price, it was too hard to pass up.... :/
Smitchell is going downhill, he's a risk vs reward pick, but the risk is huge and reward is minimal when there are better options around.

Sven

Quote from: Nige on January 28, 2015, 10:10:56 AM
Quote from: Sven on January 28, 2015, 09:57:48 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 28, 2015, 01:51:54 AM
Starting Goddard and Shaw is smarter than Gray and Malceski.
Selwood and Fyfe are on Par so nothing lost there.
Sam Mitchell is as bad of a pick as Wells though. Its fine if your happy with 100-105 avg but I would be looking elsewhere

Surely someone at Hawthorn will average over 110. If anyone will do it, surely it'd be Sam Mitchell. Just thought at his price, it was too hard to pass up.... :/
Smitchell is going downhill, he's a risk vs reward pick, but the risk is huge and reward is minimal when there are better options around.

Care to make an suggestions for a ~$450k midfielder then? Bout all the cash I have left....

Nige

Quote from: Sven on January 28, 2015, 10:17:53 AM
Quote from: Nige on January 28, 2015, 10:10:56 AM
Quote from: Sven on January 28, 2015, 09:57:48 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 28, 2015, 01:51:54 AM
Starting Goddard and Shaw is smarter than Gray and Malceski.
Selwood and Fyfe are on Par so nothing lost there.
Sam Mitchell is as bad of a pick as Wells though. Its fine if your happy with 100-105 avg but I would be looking elsewhere

Surely someone at Hawthorn will average over 110. If anyone will do it, surely it'd be Sam Mitchell. Just thought at his price, it was too hard to pass up.... :/
Smitchell is going downhill, he's a risk vs reward pick, but the risk is huge and reward is minimal when there are better options around.

Care to make an suggestions for a ~$450k midfielder then? Bout all the cash I have left....
It depends what your midfield structure is like. If possible, you're probably better finding some cash and getting a proper premo mid.

Sven

Quote from: Nige on January 28, 2015, 10:37:22 AM
Quote from: Sven on January 28, 2015, 10:17:53 AM
Quote from: Nige on January 28, 2015, 10:10:56 AM
Quote from: Sven on January 28, 2015, 09:57:48 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 28, 2015, 01:51:54 AM
Starting Goddard and Shaw is smarter than Gray and Malceski.
Selwood and Fyfe are on Par so nothing lost there.
Sam Mitchell is as bad of a pick as Wells though. Its fine if your happy with 100-105 avg but I would be looking elsewhere

Surely someone at Hawthorn will average over 110. If anyone will do it, surely it'd be Sam Mitchell. Just thought at his price, it was too hard to pass up.... :/
Smitchell is going downhill, he's a risk vs reward pick, but the risk is huge and reward is minimal when there are better options around.

Care to make an suggestions for a ~$450k midfielder then? Bout all the cash I have left....
It depends what your midfield structure is like. If possible, you're probably better finding some cash and getting a proper premo mid.

Umm...my team is listed above.

MID: Ablett, Pendles, Fyfe, Griffen, Wells, Van Berlo, Boekhorst, Freeman (Heeney, Dumont, Lambert)

Wells is the one that has to go, but the only way to get more cash is to sacrifice my premiums in Gray and Malceski. Leaving me with a figure around $450k.

Yeah, I could possibly look at Petrecca or Brayshaw, but I'm a little skeptical about Melb rookies.....

Sven

Alright. Found the cash I needed, and in the process I have balanced the bye issues too.

Swedish Meatballs v2 2015

Heath Shaw, Michael Hibberd, Grant Birchall, Jack Newnes, Beau Waters, Hugh Goddard
Daniel McKenzie, Harrison Wigg

Gary Ablett jnr, Scott Pendlebury, Tom Liberatore, Joel Selwood, Ryan Griffen, Nathan van Berlo, Blaine Boekhorst, Nathan Freeman
Trent Dumont, Kane Lambert, Isaac Heeney

Nic Naitanui, Matthew Kreuzer
Mason Cox

Brett Deledio, Jimmy Bartel, Dane Swan, Tom Bellchambers, Mitch Clark, Jesse Hogan
Caleb Daniel, Nathan Krakouer

Cash left: $118,600

Nige

That looks better to me mate.

I had Malceski too and really wanted to keep him, but found it probably best for my team if I sacrificed him for a mid premo.

quinny88

Quote from: Sven on January 28, 2015, 09:57:48 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 28, 2015, 01:51:54 AM
Starting Goddard and Shaw is smarter than Gray and Malceski.
Selwood and Fyfe are on Par so nothing lost there.
Sam Mitchell is as bad of a pick as Wells though. Its fine if your happy with 100-105 avg but I would be looking elsewhere

Surely someone at Hawthorn will average over 110. If anyone will do it, surely it'd be Sam Mitchell. Just thought at his price, it was too hard to pass up.... :/

Jordan Lewis pushed 110 last year. Mitchell is on the decline at 32, spending more time out of the midfield and he could push 110 but its unlikely.

Your new team looks the goods

Nige

Quote from: quinny88 on January 28, 2015, 02:45:44 PM
Jordan Lewis pushed 110 last year.
Personally can't see him maintaining his average from last year.