Minson

[eaglesman]

In the years of playing supercoach most good coaches ie people that regularly fit in the top 50 would tell you that 1 trade is equivalent to around 50k ... But believe what you like

[GCSkiwi]

I'm not saying that it's the way to go but that's the reason I'm doing it.
Ablett, Leuy, Kreuzer is Alot more appealing then Rich, Nic Nat, Goldstein.
I just think that rucks that we know and trust could be 10 points off there game where as Kreunberger will still make money even if it is 50-75k each that's still 100-150k which is a decent price rise for 2 mid price rucks.

I think we'll only know the "right" answer once we're a few weeks into the season and see how rucks scores are actually affected by the new rules. Just a lot of these arguments seem to forget the context of the team as a whole, Of course Goldy and NicNat will outscore Kreuzer and Leuey, and are more likely to become keepers. But they also mean you're 330k worse off across the rest of the field, so you've made a cut somewhere else. That's the part that seems to be ignored.

Jeez a playing rookie ruck would be great this year haha

In the years of playing supercoach most good coaches ie people that regularly fit in the top 50 would tell you that 1 trade is equivalent to around 50k ... But believe what you like

Can't say I've regularly slotted into the top 50, but I think putting a dollar value on trades is pretty meaningless. If you're culling a cash cow, you should get more than 50k - if not, you're doing it wrong. If you're upgrading a player, there's not a lot of point in considering the money, because that's not what you're making the trade for.

[Money Shot]

I just think if Kreuzer and Leuy stay fit I think they can average 75-85 no matter where they play and that will give them I think around 75k each and then you can assess which rucks look like the way to go and all that time you can be making up for the lost 20 or so points with Ward instead of someone like Rich.

That is just my opinion and I know a lot of people disagree with me on here but I guess there's no right or wrong way to do things. (at this stage anyways) :P

Yeah I really hope someone like Nankervis gets a call up he destroyed what ever minor league he was in last year If I recall.

[Speculator]

Kruezer won't average anywhere near 85 if he plays forward

[Speculator]

I can't believe the popularity of the Kruzeberger combo. You have 2 extremely injury prone ruckmen there and a double whammy injury blow could derail your season.

[Money Shot]

I can't believe the popularity of the Kruzeberger combo. You have 2 extremely injury prone ruckmen there and a double whammy injury blow could derail your season.

Risk/Reward and Alot of people think it's to risky but I think the reward is better that's just my opinion.

[Speculator]

I can't believe the popularity of the Kruzeberger combo. You have 2 extremely injury prone ruckmen there and a double whammy injury blow could derail your season.

Risk/Reward and Alot of people think it's to risky but I think the reward is better that's just my opinion.

Fair enough, its going to be one of the interesting areas to watch unfold

[krk004]

Minson scored 93 ave last year, which has been indicated to be an 82 under new Ruck scoring.

Has a 3 yr ave of ~101, which would probably equate to ~90ish.

Probably priced at fair value.

[MC]

SC top players are set apart from the rest by their trading and rookie choices. They trade hard early to secure the best players and ride out the wave, praying for no injuries/suspensions.

In saying that, choosing Berger and Kreuzer could very well backfire heavily, particularly when they may be scoring the equivalent or lower than a rookie priced player. I could realistically see a safe 70 from each, which is still value, but not enough for me to be starting with them, knowing full well that I will be trading them out for a Jacobs/Mumford/Goldy etc before the year is out.

This year I will be taking a risk or two in defense, and will try to pick 1 or 2 breakout-type players in the mids. I won't be mucking around with questionable rucks. Stef Martin is the big question above Berger's head... Martin is a pure ruck who DOMINATED last season. Why would they change that? Thery would be salivating at the prospect of Martin putting the pill down the throat of Beams/Rocky/Hanley/Redden etc. Berger could very well suit up at CHF which cuts his scores to 70 as opposed to a 'possibe' 90 average.
Kreuzer on the other hand has little competition for a ruck spot, however his body hasn't held up to the position and may be cotton coated in the forwards, meaning his output will be reduced as well.

My 2c anyway, cheers.

[MC]

Another point to consider is that Minson went at 25% HO to advantage last year, which may well decrease given the departure of Griffen/Higgins etc. 

[meow meow]

Minson led the league in hitouts to advantage in 2013.

[MC]

Minson led the league in hitouts to advantage in 2013.

With a much more experienced midfield. Cross, Boyd, Griffen, Cooney, Libba, even Bob Murphy was jettingg around. I would have to say that next year's mids look a fair bit less experienced, potentially getting outclassed by many other teams in the process.
Obviously there are some young blokes who will step up and keep improving, but I don't think you can replace the talent and experience overnight.

[The_Captain]

Cameron Mooney.... pls.

[Holz]

In the years of playing supercoach most good coaches ie people that regularly fit in the top 50 would tell you that 1 trade is equivalent to around 50k ... But believe what you like

Not sure I agree, I put them more in the range of 100-150 it's why I'm saving the trades in this line and going goldy Nic Nat.

[The_Captain]

In the years of playing supercoach most good coaches ie people that regularly fit in the top 50 would tell you that 1 trade is equivalent to around 50k ... But believe what you like

Not sure I agree, I put them more in the range of 100-150 it's why I'm saving the trades in this line and going goldy Nic Nat.

WIll that hurt your main line but Holz. aka the mids? How many premos you gonna get in there now 4? 5? 4 and a mid pricer?

Its a toughie. Im thnking of going one of luey and kruez who ever looks fittest (less injured more like it) I still think they can average well enough to even become a keeper if you get your mids looking mint enough by years end !