Goddard v Franklin

Started by Money Shot, January 15, 2015, 09:03:28 AM

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Holz

Quote from: meow meow on January 15, 2015, 03:14:24 PM
Quote from: Keeper27 on January 15, 2015, 03:06:22 PM
Buddy to continue his devastating 113.6 avg form after the bye.

Going to pick Matt Boyd then? Averaged 117.5 before the bye. Any player can look awesome if you pick and choose which games to include/leave out.

depends what the reason is, adjusting to a new side while they adjust their structure seems a good reason to me. Its why i didn't start him last year even though he was cheap and why I picked him up a few rounds after the bye.

meow meow

Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2015, 03:17:27 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 15, 2015, 03:14:24 PM
Quote from: Keeper27 on January 15, 2015, 03:06:22 PM
Buddy to continue his devastating 113.6 avg form after the bye.

Going to pick Matt Boyd then? Averaged 117.5 before the bye. Any player can look awesome if you pick and choose which games to include/leave out.

depends what the reason is, adjusting to a new side while they adjust their structure seems a good reason to me. Its why i didn't start him last year even though he was cheap and why I picked him up a few rounds after the bye.

Who says they're not going to adjust their structure again? The Hawks slayed them and proved that relying on one player is a foolish gameplan, even if that one player plays well.

SydneyRox

Quote from: meow meow on January 15, 2015, 03:28:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2015, 03:17:27 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 15, 2015, 03:14:24 PM
Quote from: Keeper27 on January 15, 2015, 03:06:22 PM
Buddy to continue his devastating 113.6 avg form after the bye.

Going to pick Matt Boyd then? Averaged 117.5 before the bye. Any player can look awesome if you pick and choose which games to include/leave out.

depends what the reason is, adjusting to a new side while they adjust their structure seems a good reason to me. Its why i didn't start him last year even though he was cheap and why I picked him up a few rounds after the bye.

Who says they're not going to adjust their structure again? The Hawks slayed them and proved that relying on one player is a foolish gameplan, even if that one player plays well.

There have been numerous articles from Horse and others saying there will be no major changes this year. They finished on top of the ladder and had their worst game of the year in the GF where they were out worked by the Hawks.

This is another reason why I think getting on buddy from rnd 1 is a must. IMO the whole team will be fired up from the start with a point to prove, so rather than the slowly working into a season the swans normally produce, they will be running from round 1

Holz

Quote from: meow meow on January 15, 2015, 03:28:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2015, 03:17:27 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 15, 2015, 03:14:24 PM
Quote from: Keeper27 on January 15, 2015, 03:06:22 PM
Buddy to continue his devastating 113.6 avg form after the bye.

Going to pick Matt Boyd then? Averaged 117.5 before the bye. Any player can look awesome if you pick and choose which games to include/leave out.

depends what the reason is, adjusting to a new side while they adjust their structure seems a good reason to me. Its why i didn't start him last year even though he was cheap and why I picked him up a few rounds after the bye.

Who says they're not going to adjust their structure again? The Hawks slayed them and proved that relying on one player is a foolish gameplan, even if that one player plays well.

im more confident about buddy keeping his high scoring role than I am Essendon not making goddard be a role player and playing him exclusively in the midfield

Vulpes

My initial thought is that Franklin will improve with more time fitting in with Tippett and loves the less accountable role Tippett gives him. I had thought that Goddard was only getting mid time because of the Watson injury, and would go back to being a utility. From his stats it looks like Goddard was a lot better with Watson in the team.

Is there a pattern that the strong midfielders get knocked around too much when they play solo and get the niggling injuries? I noticed JPK finished this season a bit better with Parker sharing grunt work and Goodes floating through occasionally and looked a lot less battered than 2013, but I could be making something out of limited anecdotal evidence.

quinny88

Both locked in for me. Expect 105ish from both.
Buddy is a roller coaster but that's half the fun

Money Shot

Quote from: quinny88 on January 15, 2015, 05:51:05 PM
Both locked in for me. Expect 105ish from both.
Buddy is a roller coaster but that's half the fun
Watch Swan and Martin get 110+ 8)

quinny88

Quote from: Money Shot on January 15, 2015, 06:00:26 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 15, 2015, 05:51:05 PM
Both locked in for me. Expect 105ish from both.
Buddy is a roller coaster but that's half the fun
Watch Swan and Martin get 110+ 8)

Unlikely but it wouldn't surprise me.

eaglesman

franklin absolute lock for my team
If I can squeeze Goddard in to fit with bye structure then that will
Be a luxury

fasttrack13

Whole fwd line premo is so hard to pick. So many options at premo and mid price.

Martin is so interesting. If he plays midfield 110+ is a certainty... That is an if though. Anyone got any inside news?

Woppa15

It has to be Buddy for me. I think his role is what it is and what it has been for years and will remain that way, leading me to believe he can genuinely go anywhere from 105-115.

But for Goddard, as good as he is his SC avg has been on a steady decline of about 3-5 points a year since is St Kilda days. I think his midfield time is only going to decrease with Watson back and the emergence of younger guys which will need more and more midfield exposure in an attempt to build genuine midfield depth. I think he may even dip into the 90's this year, say 95-100.

ben_020285

Quote from: Woppa15 on January 16, 2015, 02:14:42 PM
It has to be Buddy for me. I think his role is what it is and what it has been for years and will remain that way, leading me to believe he can genuinely go anywhere from 105-115.

But for Goddard, as good as he is his SC avg has been on a steady decline of about 3-5 points a year since is St Kilda days. I think his midfield time is only going to decrease with Watson back and the emergence of younger guys which will need more and more midfield exposure in an attempt to build genuine midfield depth. I think he may even dip into the 90's this year, say 95-100.

Take out the game from last year where Goddard was injured in the first quarter and he actually averaged more than he did in 2013.

Pkbaldy


tbagrocks

Bit of a crazy question imo, both probably under priced so Buddy isn't his normal overly priced price! His second season at Sydney will be better than his first especially with Tippett and then Reid getting better still. Buddy will be better but so will BJ

Goddard will be better no doubt imo, he knows his new team mates now and will have a defined role to play, he will score higher than last year now imo. Cant make an argument as to why to leave out either men! As I don't think either will drop much at all in price to get cheaper, you'll miss out on those 120+ scores

honza

Why the hell would you start Franklin when you can just scoop him up for 400k during the season, just like every other year.