Goddard v Franklin

Started by Money Shot, January 15, 2015, 09:03:28 AM

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SydneyRox

Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2015, 01:02:59 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 15, 2015, 01:02:12 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2015, 12:52:56 PM
Goddard Swan Martin im probably all picking but Buddy is probably the biggest lock in my team. He is under priced and has years of being a super premo, pretty confident he keaps up his second half of the season form all year.

not even thinking about it Buddy will be the second picked in my team after Goldy.
Buddy it is then ;)

I may be wrong.

LOL - with your record, I reckon i know where my money is! ;)

ben_020285

Goddard for me. I think they will average around the same but I think Goddard will be more consistent and Buddy is likely to miss at least 3 games through injury/suspension like he has the past 5 seasons.

Holz

Quote from: ben_020285 on January 15, 2015, 01:07:12 PM
Goddard for me. I think they will average around the same but I think Goddard will be more consistent and Buddy is likely to miss at least 3 games through injury/suspension like he has the past 5 seasons.

Goddard is certainly a good pick but you need to follow his role. when he was playing exclusively as a midfielder he went something like 112 minus the 1 injury game. However when they made him play as a lead up forward he didn't score as well. If they look to play him forward abit than he will still go well but i dont see him lifting from his 100 price but worth picking up at some stage. If he gets a pure midfield role than he could easily match Buddy and go 105-112.

If thats the case pick both, if its not just pick Buddy.


AaronKirk

Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2015, 01:13:50 PM
Quote from: ben_020285 on January 15, 2015, 01:07:12 PM
Goddard for me. I think they will average around the same but I think Goddard will be more consistent and Buddy is likely to miss at least 3 games through injury/suspension like he has the past 5 seasons.

Goddard is certainly a good pick but you need to follow his role. when he was playing exclusively as a midfielder he went something like 112 minus the 1 injury game. However when they made him play as a lead up forward he didn't score as well. If they look to play him forward abit than he will still go well but i dont see him lifting from his 100 price but worth picking up at some stage. If he gets a pure midfield role than he could easily match Buddy and go 105-112.

If thats the case pick both, if its not just pick Buddy.

I hope that Daniher plays FF and Carlisle CHF, we also have Bellchambers and Giles to rotate between the ruck and forward. If that is the case then Goddard will play probably 75-80% of the time in the mids with some time playing forward.

If Hird decides to play Carlisle in defence than Goddard will play a lot more forward as he will not be able to score too well with Daniher and a ruck as our key forward targets.

At this stage I think scenario one will occur and hence Goddard is my F3 at the moment. Currently do not have Buddy in my side but he is very close to being one of my starting forwards.

meow meow


Money Shot

Quote from: meow meow on January 15, 2015, 02:21:32 PM
Goddard easy.
You seem to know everything so why is Goddard the easy pick over Franklin?

meow meow

Quote from: Money Shot on January 15, 2015, 02:28:28 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 15, 2015, 02:21:32 PM
Goddard easy.
You seem to know everything so why is Goddard the easy pick over Franklin?

I don't "seem to". BJ's average is sub affected, Bud misses too many games. The weeks that you have to play a rookie who scores 60 makes Franklin's position worth 5 points less than his real average.

Mat0369

I still think both is the right option. Lids, Goddard and Buddy and then build around them from there. If I was to bounce one of those guys it would probably be Lids with a tough run of taggers early in the season

Holz

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Quote from: meow meow on January 15, 2015, 02:35:18 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 15, 2015, 02:28:28 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 15, 2015, 02:21:32 PM
Goddard easy.
You seem to know everything so why is Goddard the easy pick over Franklin?

I don't "seem to". BJ's average is sub affected, Bud misses too many games. The weeks that you have to play a rookie who scores 60 makes Franklin's position worth 5 points less than his real average.

its fair enough if you never plan to have Buddy in your sqaud, but if you want him the time to pick him up is round 1. The forwards are strong but im not sure they are strong enough to not have Buddy.

Even if he misses a few games I cant see 6 guys out scoring him.

Im picking both if goddard looks to not be parked up forward too much. I just see Buddy as under priced due to his start and Goddard is under priced if given his good role. Guys like lids im not sure are too under priced so will pick him up later.

meow meow

Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2015, 02:43:46 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 15, 2015, 02:35:18 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 15, 2015, 02:28:28 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 15, 2015, 02:21:32 PM
Goddard easy.
You seem to know everything so why is Goddard the easy pick over Franklin?

I don't "seem to". BJ's average is sub affected, Bud misses too many games. The weeks that you have to play a rookie who scores 60 makes Franklin's position worth 5 points less than his real average.

its fair enough if you never plan to have Buddy in your sqaud, but if you want him the time to pick him up is round 1. The forwards are strong but im not sure they are strong enough to not have Buddy.

Even if he misses a few games I cant see 6 guys out scoring him.

Goddard, Lids, Dusty, Boomer, Swan, Bartel, Gray makes 7 and then there's guys like Zorko, Bennel and even NRoo and Roughead.

Holz

Quote from: meow meow on January 15, 2015, 02:49:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2015, 02:43:46 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 15, 2015, 02:35:18 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 15, 2015, 02:28:28 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 15, 2015, 02:21:32 PM
Goddard easy.
You seem to know everything so why is Goddard the easy pick over Franklin?

I don't "seem to". BJ's average is sub affected, Bud misses too many games. The weeks that you have to play a rookie who scores 60 makes Franklin's position worth 5 points less than his real average.

its fair enough if you never plan to have Buddy in your sqaud, but if you want him the time to pick him up is round 1. The forwards are strong but im not sure they are strong enough to not have Buddy.

Even if he misses a few games I cant see 6 guys out scoring him.

Goddard, Lids, Dusty, Boomer, Swan, Bartel, Gray makes 7 and then there's guys like Zorko, Bennel and even NRoo and Roughead.

113 average from round 8 onward. Lets go conservative and give him a 110 average.

110 average for 19 games + 3 60s from back ups gets you an average of 103. Priced at 99 he is still undervalued.
110 average from 18 games + 3 60s from back ups is an average of 101. so still undervalued.

he plays more games and you win big. Any of those forwards miss games and you win and those guys arent exactly locks to play 22 games. The other thing is he typically is more likely to miss the end of the season when you have better cover.

justaverage

Goddard has never and will never have a steady role. He is such a great player and leader because he can play where required when required. With the recruitment of Cooney and a healthy Watson I can see Goddard swinging between half forward/back but not in the guts.

Keeper27

Buddy to continue his devastating 113.6 avg form after the bye.

meow meow

Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2015, 02:56:04 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 15, 2015, 02:49:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 15, 2015, 02:43:46 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 15, 2015, 02:35:18 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 15, 2015, 02:28:28 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 15, 2015, 02:21:32 PM
Goddard easy.
You seem to know everything so why is Goddard the easy pick over Franklin?

I don't "seem to". BJ's average is sub affected, Bud misses too many games. The weeks that you have to play a rookie who scores 60 makes Franklin's position worth 5 points less than his real average.

its fair enough if you never plan to have Buddy in your sqaud, but if you want him the time to pick him up is round 1. The forwards are strong but im not sure they are strong enough to not have Buddy.

Even if he misses a few games I cant see 6 guys out scoring him.

Goddard, Lids, Dusty, Boomer, Swan, Bartel, Gray makes 7 and then there's guys like Zorko, Bennel and even NRoo and Roughead.

113 average from round 8 onward. Lets go conservative and give him a 110 average.

110 average for 19 games + 3 60s from back ups gets you an average of 103. Priced at 99 he is still undervalued.
110 average from 18 games + 3 60s from back ups is an average of 101. so still undervalued.

he plays more games and you win big. Any of those forwards miss games and you win and those guys arent exactly locks to play 22 games. The other thing is he typically is more likely to miss the end of the season when you have better cover.

Why are you giving him a 110 average? Those poor scoring games happened and Lance has only ever put together one full season where his form was godly the whole way through. It's silly to assume that he won't have a form dip at some point. Goddard has a legit reason - injury. Without that game he averaged 107.1 and is every chance to do that again for 22 matches.

meow meow

Quote from: Keeper27 on January 15, 2015, 03:06:22 PM
Buddy to continue his devastating 113.6 avg form after the bye.

Going to pick Matt Boyd then? Averaged 117.5 before the bye. Any player can look awesome if you pick and choose which games to include/leave out.