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[Colliwobblers]

thanks mate, and i know its different on different pitches but lets just say differentiate between bowling friendly and batting friendly pitches.

if you bat first do you attack with your bowling or defend? and attack or defend with batting? "generally"

and if you bowl first?

[PowerBug]

thanks mate, and i know its different on different pitches but lets just say differentiate between bowling friendly and batting friendly pitches.

if you bat first do you attack with your bowling or defend? and attack or defend with batting? "generally"

and if you bowl first?

I think the general rule I hear is Bat first on the bowling pitches, bowl first on the batting pitches.

I'm a very conservative manager, so I will use more defensive orders than attacking orders in almost every game. If I want to bowl first then I'll attack with the bowling a little more. Batting is generally a few guys on 'D', spread out (E.g. 3, 6, 9) and the rest on normal. If you have a long tail (AR at 8 ), then definitely have someone attacking with the bat, if not two.

[DazBurg]

thanks mate, and i know its different on different pitches but lets just say differentiate between bowling friendly and batting friendly pitches.

if you bat first do you attack with your bowling or defend? and attack or defend with batting? "generally"

and if you bowl first?

I think the general rule I hear is Bat first on the bowling pitches, bowl first on the batting pitches.

I'm a very conservative manager, so I will use more defensive orders than attacking orders in almost every game. If I want to bowl first then I'll attack with the bowling a little more. Batting is generally a few guys on 'D', spread out (E.g. 3, 6, 9) and the rest on normal. If you have a long tail (AR at 8 ), then definitely have someone attacking with the bat, if not two.

yah i'm the same i have no one on A in battig but usually have 1 openr on D and 4,5 on D who are both boundary hitters

[CrowsFan]

How do I set tactics? For the last few seasons I have just relied on having a far superior rating side... :P

[R.Griffen]

Press on the orders before the game starts and change them to suit your players and he pitch. If you haven't changed the pitch settings go into the'ground' page and change them to what you want to play on

[CrowsFan]

Sorry I should have said "winning tactics", I do know how to enter the orders page. It was a joke anyway...

[PowerBug]

On a Dry i usually just go with my seamers for 5 each, one on N one on A.

That seems to be a common mistake.

I always approach the first 10 overs defensively with seamers on a Dry. No aggression at all, always pick up 2 wickets during the first ten.

So I had success for the first time on a Dry wicket in the first ten overs...
My Main kept my affiliate to 24/1 after 10. Then my affiliate kept my main to 29/1 after 10 overs. ::)

[Colliwobblers]

not wanting to coninue asking questions in the wrong thread i'll ask here.

what age do you start training a batsmen / fast bowlers power at? 22,3,4,?

And what do you train it to in relation to the primaries?

and if you have a bowler only spin bowler at say spec/spec at 25 or 26 do you train them any power at all?

[AFEV]

not wanting to coninue asking questions in the wrong thread i'll ask here.

what age do you start training a batsmen / fast bowlers power at? 22,3,4,?

And what do you train it to in relation to the primaries?

and if you have a bowler only spin bowler at say spec/spec at 25 or 26 do you train them any power at all?

It depends entirely on your squad balance. If you've got a young batsman (22-23) who is playing in your first XI and is an important part of your batting line-up (not protected by more experienced players/deep batting) then I would put some power on them first. Perhaps up to capable or reliable and then back to primaries before reassessing at 25. I have always felt I leave power training quite late though, as I'm a little obsessive about getting players to the highest possible skills, which often can result in some impotence early on.
Fast bowlers it would be more important to get that power in early to make them useful as they will eventually need a heavy excess of it anyway, you'd want reliable or accomplished during their 24th year at least, otherwise they probably won't perform to potential until much later in their twenties.

Personally regarding primaries, it is custom for me to train players to have the best primaries possible without sacrificing secondaries whatsoever. Finding this balance I'm sure differs from manager to manager depending on their secondary standards, but the majority of long term managers I think you'd find would be very finicky about each player meeting whatever their own secondary standards are. For me, if that means a player only reaches spec/spec (or less, depends on circumstances) it is far more important that their secondaries are up to scratch. So basically pick whatever your power standard will be (on a batsman I'd want spectacular+ at the end point) would take priority, and you adjust primary training based on how each individual player is tracking.

Would not ever train power outright on a finger spinner unless they were an all-rounder. A spec/spec 25 year old finger spinner, assuming they have good fielding and endurance, can still make it to excep/excep if you can tolerate the wages. FS benefit the least from the power so I would not find it to be an efficient use of those years of training, especially when they're 25-26 you're basically condemning them to 5+ seasons of secondary training that (if they've been properly trained) they shouldn't really need at that point. If you don't want to pay the high primary wages for a finger spin bowler, load up on fielding and endurance. I have usually found that my finger spinners have ended up with an extra 1-2 fielding levels over whatever is the standard for my squad, because they have less useful skills to train.

You will find a bit of division over whether to train power on a WS though, it's definitely beneficial to have (more so than a FS) that extra power, however they won't require as much as your fast or fast medium bowlers. I would say use your own experience to try and discover the power levels you like on a WS bowler, because this one definitely varies a bit from manager to manager and you won't really find a consensus.

[Colliwobblers]

thanks AFEV awesome answer. even if there isn't a consensus :)

[AFEV]

Yep, closest you'll get to a consensus is that you do need **some**, but just how much will depend on who you're asking. :)

[Colliwobblers]

got my deluxe youth academy :)

[Hellopplz]

Awesome Colli! What's your SA at, as I've found it hard to manage both academies at the same time in lower divisions unless you make some money from selling players/maintaining wages well.

[Colliwobblers]

Awesome Colli! What's your SA at, as I've found it hard to manage both academies at the same time in lower divisions unless you make some money from selling players/maintaining wages well.

excellent senior, and yeah im struggling, next seasons senior pay increases could be too much.

easy to make money buying and selling players but have to do it (buy) enough in advance so they are ready to sell when and as I need to.

still if i get stuck i do have a few very very good youths i could sell and a few seniors left i'll get between 100 and 250k for.

be nice to actually make money each week tho :)

[Hellopplz]

I've forgotten what it is like to make a profit in a week, lucky to do it once a season (If I sell players in the off season) :'(. Otherwise it's been a good 5+ seasons probably since it occurred otherwise.

Good plan to sell some players to make a profit. Easy indeed if you buy some cheap guys and grow them a bit then sell at the right time early in the season. Why when buying handy to look at spare ratings + wages + secondaries possibly, if just going to sell in a bit. Otherwise the back up is to sell players. I've done that before and brought in some money to stay afloat.

I had my academies at Lux SA and Lavish YA for several seasons as to not pressure my bank balance. Now I've upped them to Deluxe and Lux now that I keep comfortably over the 1 Mil mark (as I don't buy players). Being home grown, pretty much means I just sell players when they turn 20 if they don't fit my senior side, or I sell some primed players if I have better prospects promoting. Really helped my Transfer differential as I don't buy besides the occasional 16 year old if needed!


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