i5s General Discussion

[upthemaidens]

It shouldn't make any difference where in the draft you come, that's the idea behind a snake draft i.e. 1st+16th=8th+9th

The groups were uneven(that's the luck of the draw) next season you should be drafting from different clubs, so that will even it out.
  If you had the NM/Port/STK group(bad luck), but you won't have them next year.

..You could have 3 gun players, they get early injuries(or you just get a bad run) and you lose straight away.
   Next season you get seeded higher, but still have the 3 guns.  That wont even out the Comp.

I agree with what you are saying, but in general the teams who have been in a weaker draft, and esp the teams who had lower picks are going to struggle to catch up if we dont try and even it out.

Some sort of moderate equalisation attempt is better than random. each conference only has 8 teams, so seeding them, even if it is only based on the first round robin part would be better IMO.

As been mentioned before,, Seeding for next year could be based on the 3 keeper players combined averages.
   That would help the teams with a weaker core.

[ossie85]

maybe we just draft, enjoy this season see how it pans out than worry about this next year.

^ this

Guys, not really a huge fan of trading for season 1.... Next year is a whole different ball game though.

Loving the passion btw.

Yes, luck of the draw is a thing... but there was always going to be luck involved :(

[Nige]

I like lamps.

But do you love them as much as Brick?

[R.Griffen]

It shouldn't make any difference where in the draft you come, that's the idea behind a snake draft i.e. 1st+16th=8th+9th

The groups were uneven(that's the luck of the draw) next season you should be drafting from different clubs, so that will even it out.
  If you had the NM/Port/STK group(bad luck), but you won't have them next year.

..You could have 3 gun players, they get early injuries(or you just get a bad run) and you lose straight away.
   Next season you get seeded higher, but still have the 3 guns.  That wont even out the Comp.

I agree with what you are saying, but in general the teams who have been in a weaker draft, and esp the teams who had lower picks are going to struggle to catch up if we dont try and even it out.

Some sort of moderate equalisation attempt is better than random. each conference only has 8 teams, so seeding them, even if it is only based on the first round robin part would be better IMO.

As been mentioned before,, Seeding for next year could be based on the 3 keeper players combined averages.
   That would help the teams with a weaker core.

What happens if Rocky gets injured round 1 and scores 2 before bring subbed and ML ends ups winning the comp? He keeps Rocky and also gets first pick plus a chance of going back to back

[Big Mac]

It shouldn't make any difference where in the draft you come, that's the idea behind a snake draft i.e. 1st+16th=8th+9th

The groups were uneven(that's the luck of the draw) next season you should be drafting from different clubs, so that will even it out.
  If you had the NM/Port/STK group(bad luck), but you won't have them next year.

..You could have 3 gun players, they get early injuries(or you just get a bad run) and you lose straight away.
   Next season you get seeded higher, but still have the 3 guns.  That wont even out the Comp.

I agree with what you are saying, but in general the teams who have been in a weaker draft, and esp the teams who had lower picks are going to struggle to catch up if we dont try and even it out.

Some sort of moderate equalisation attempt is better than random. each conference only has 8 teams, so seeding them, even if it is only based on the first round robin part would be better IMO.

As been mentioned before,, Seeding for next year could be based on the 3 keeper players combined averages.
   That would help the teams with a weaker core.

What happens if Rocky gets injured round 1 and scores 2 before bring subbed and ML ends ups winning the comp? He keeps Rocky and also gets first pick plus a chance of going back to back

Then Ossie just doesn't include injury affected scores in the average. And if the player only plays one game for the season, and gets injured in that game for a score of 2, then the player's previous year's average is used.

[upthemaidens]

It shouldn't make any difference where in the draft you come, that's the idea behind a snake draft i.e. 1st+16th=8th+9th

The groups were uneven(that's the luck of the draw) next season you should be drafting from different clubs, so that will even it out.
  If you had the NM/Port/STK group(bad luck), but you won't have them next year.

..You could have 3 gun players, they get early injuries(or you just get a bad run) and you lose straight away.
   Next season you get seeded higher, but still have the 3 guns.  That wont even out the Comp.

I agree with what you are saying, but in general the teams who have been in a weaker draft, and esp the teams who had lower picks are going to struggle to catch up if we dont try and even it out.

Some sort of moderate equalisation attempt is better than random. each conference only has 8 teams, so seeding them, even if it is only based on the first round robin part would be better IMO.

As been mentioned before,, Seeding for next year could be based on the 3 keeper players combined averages.
   That would help the teams with a weaker core.

What happens if Rocky gets injured round 1 and scores 2 before bring subbed and ML ends ups winning the comp? He keeps Rocky and also gets first pick plus a chance of going back to back

Yep that could happen also, though if Rocky gets injured and misses 3 games. It would be highly unlikely the team would get past the first stage.
  The reason why these things need to be discussed, is so we can work out the best solution.

And as mentioned above, Ossie could just not include injury affected games.   

[Ringo]

Just a thought on next year and remember some will not be keeping 3 players either.

This may require help for Ossie though and throwing out there for comment.

1. delist all players not required.
2. List players averages and then group players by averages into 6 groups. Use snake eg 1-6 the 7 into group 6 etc,  Players inluding new draftees who have not played a game are exhausted via alphabetical listing.
3. based on groups overall allocate groups eg Lowest scoring Group will get group one and so on and then within group lowest to highest with no snaking of subsequent drafts.  Feel this will help even competition.

If worked out early you could even trade draft picks.

[Nige]

If worked out early you could even trade draft picks.

Oh God, not this can of worms.

[SydneyRox]

If worked out early you could even trade draft picks.

Oh God, not this can of worms.

[Holz]

my suggestion would be each group has a captain (probably whoever comes first in the group)

than you seed based on that groups top 3 players.

you than have each group get a seed based on the average of the 3 players. Each captain picks a team according to see so they draft from those 3 teams. That way the weaker groups can get stronger 

[RaisyDaisy]

Seems like we need a spot to talk all things i5 instead of derailing the existing threads :)

The hot topic right now is trading - Let's continue that discussion and all other general i5 related matters here :)

My 2c, I think we don't do any trades now. Everyone drafts their 16 players from the 3 teams assigned, and then at the end of the first season we can start trading, and see how the first season goes to make better decisions about what trade rules and guidelines will benefit the competition

[Nige]

The last part of that needs to be emphasised.  :P

I think we don't do any trades now. Everyone drafts their 16 players from the 3 teams assigned, and then at the end of the first season we can start trading, and see how the first season goes to make better decisions about what trade rules and guidelines will benefit the competition

[Football Factory]

The last part of that needs to be emphasised.  :P

I think we don't do any trades now. Everyone drafts their 16 players from the 3 teams assigned, and then at the end of the first season we can start trading, and see how the first season goes to make better decisions about what trade rules and guidelines will benefit the competition

[AaronKirk]

Agree with RD.

Yes my team will probably be shower but lets see how it goes for the 1st season

[GM]

Yep RD
I said this earlier.
Let's see how this season pans out first.
I really don't think trading would be beneficial tbh.
We only get to keep 3 players from 2015 so who's going to trade any of their top 3 guns.
Plus we have no positional issues to recruit for.