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Started by Holz, January 07, 2015, 11:06:55 AM

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Big Mac

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 07, 2015, 02:40:48 PM
Nah needs to be seeded otherwise no keepers allowed.

I think this is the way to go

Nige

Quote from: upthemaidens on January 07, 2015, 02:38:26 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on January 07, 2015, 02:33:21 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on January 07, 2015, 02:25:39 PM
Surely it will be the same as what we are doing now.  Keep 3 players from your 2014 squad, then the rest go back into the player pool.
  Next season we draft a new batch of 13 players from a different three AFL Clubs.


Agree, but do we seed the teams? So the people who get knocked out first have higher picks than the ones who make the finals?

The 2016 talent pool is dropping by the best 150 players in 2015(give or take), so giving the 'weaker' teams some help is probably better
No I think it should just be random, not seeded. Each Season Squads will be different(barring the 3 we keep).
    So there is no real need to Seed the teams every year.

Toga


Holz

Seed based off the 3 players you keep maybe

tbagrocks

Because Dahlhaus and McEvoy are better than Shiel and, which flogging Smith is this? Not that it matters

Cant do averages when players are better than you think they are

upthemaidens

It shouldn't make any difference where in the draft you come, that's the idea behind a snake draft i.e. 1st+16th=8th+9th

The groups were uneven(that's the luck of the draw) next season you should be drafting from different clubs, so that will even it out.
  If you had the NM/Port/STK group(bad luck), but you won't have them next year.

..You could have 3 gun players, they get early injuries(or you just get a bad run) and you lose straight away.
   Next season you get seeded higher, but still have the 3 guns.  That wont even out the Comp.

upthemaidens

Quote from: Holz on January 07, 2015, 02:48:23 PM
Seed based off the 3 players you keep maybe
That's an idea.  The three players you keep combined averages for the season is what the seeding is based on..
  That could work, i.e. You keep 3 players with a combined avg. of 310 pts. and another team has 3 with 290 pts, they go higher in the following draft order.

So no matter where you actually finished in 2015, it's based on how good your core 3 are..

AaronKirk

Quote from: upthemaidens on January 07, 2015, 02:58:24 PM
It shouldn't make any difference where in the draft you come, that's the idea behind a snake draft i.e. 1st+16th=8th+9th

The groups were uneven(that's the luck of the draw) next season you should be drafting from different clubs, so that will even it out.
  If you had the NM/Port/STK group(bad luck), but you won't have them next year.

..You could have 3 gun players, they get early injuries(or you just get a bad run) and you lose straight away.
   Next season you get seeded higher, but still have the 3 guns.  That wont even out the Comp.

Wasn't that bad a draft

IMO my top 5 can all average 90+ so hopefully can be competitive.

upthemaidens

Quote from: AaronKirk on January 07, 2015, 03:08:18 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on January 07, 2015, 02:58:24 PM
It shouldn't make any difference where in the draft you come, that's the idea behind a snake draft i.e. 1st+16th=8th+9th

The groups were uneven(that's the luck of the draw) next season you should be drafting from different clubs, so that will even it out.
  If you had the NM/Port/STK group(bad luck), but you won't have them next year.

..You could have 3 gun players, they get early injuries(or you just get a bad run) and you lose straight away.
   Next season you get seeded higher, but still have the 3 guns.  That wont even out the Comp.

Wasn't that bad a draft

IMO my top 5 can all average 90+ so hopefully can be competitive.
Haha fair enough, it was really just an example. Pointing out that you will get different clubs next season.

T Dog

Has the simple start all drafts again next season been looked at. Rather than a keeper league? Keep framework the same but let everyone go again? Would remove the seeding, who was in what team group etc issues.  :-\

Holz

Quote from: tbagrocks on January 07, 2015, 02:56:04 PM
Because Dahlhaus and McEvoy are better than Shiel and, which flogging Smith is this? Not that it matters

Cant do averages when players are better than you think they are

Devon Smith and Dylan Shiel are better than Dahlous and McEvoy both in average and being better players.

SydneyRox

Quote from: upthemaidens on January 07, 2015, 02:58:24 PM
It shouldn't make any difference where in the draft you come, that's the idea behind a snake draft i.e. 1st+16th=8th+9th

The groups were uneven(that's the luck of the draw) next season you should be drafting from different clubs, so that will even it out.
  If you had the NM/Port/STK group(bad luck), but you won't have them next year.

..You could have 3 gun players, they get early injuries(or you just get a bad run) and you lose straight away.
   Next season you get seeded higher, but still have the 3 guns.  That wont even out the Comp.

I agree with what you are saying, but in general the teams who have been in a weaker draft, and esp the teams who had lower picks are going to struggle to catch up if we dont try and even it out.

Some sort of moderate equalisation attempt is better than random. each conference only has 8 teams, so seeding them, even if it is only based on the first round robin part would be better IMO.


upthemaidens

Quote from: T Dog on January 07, 2015, 03:12:50 PM
Has the simple start all drafts again next season been looked at. Rather than a keeper league? Keep framework the same but let everyone go again? Would remove the seeding, who was in what team group etc issues.  :-\
But people drafted on the assumption they will be keeping 3 players.

Holz

maybe we just draft, enjoy this season see how it pans out than worry about this next year.

Pkbaldy