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Started by Money Shot, January 07, 2015, 09:47:36 AM

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Money Shot

TEAM NAME: MS 2015
DEF: A. Walker, H. Taylor, J. Newnes, B. Waters, B. Whitecross, Z. Jones (H. Goddard, E. Vickers-Willis)
MID: G. Ablett jnr, S. Pendlebury, N. Fyfe, J. Selwood, C. Ward, N. van Berlo, J. Laverde, N. Freeman (A. Neal-Bullen, J. Steele, K. Lambert)
RUC: M. Kreuzer, M. Leuenberger (T. Read)
FWD: B. Deledio, L. Franklin, D. Martin, D. Swan, T. Bellchambers, M. Clark (J. Hogan, N. Krakouer)
CASH LEFT: $8,000

Defence: This is the obvious place to go weak in my eyes as we don't really know who will be top 5 this year. I have picked 3 guys who could easily push there. Walker should be a lock if playing off half back. Taylor is a good unique and I believe with the work he is doing this off season could and should easily go 90+ with Newnes being the breakout candidate (Swallow) and reports have him flying. Waters is fir and at 267k he can easily go 80+ although I would be happy with a 75. Whitex is more of a place holder for a defensive player under 200k along with Jones but if fit they are the best selections in my opinion.

Midfield: I have finally found a midfield I like with the top 5 selections being in my opinion top 5 come seasons end. NVB has to be a lock if it as he will get games and average around 70 and who doesn't want that from a rookie priced player? Others again are place holders (I know they are cheap but believe there is a lot of value this year)

Rucks: Again another line with heaps of value and I don't see why there isn't as many people taking the same risk I am. Both have the potential to be locks although I would be happy with them to be some cash cows. They are pretty much locked for me.

Forwards: This line has not changed at all since I first started making my side. Lids, Franklin, Martin, Swan could all easily be top 5 forwards come seasons end and I see Martin out scoring Goddard as all Martin has to do is pick up his disposal efficiency. Belly is obviously needed for ruck cover and think he is good value for a 5th forward. Clark and Hogan are locks, with Krakouer being a lock for me if upgraded.

Bye structure is great with 8/11/11

Jones and Whitex in Roberton and Rainbow out think I have an extra 10 points there if Whitex is fit. (Can easily be changed if not)

The_Captain

New Thread MS? Where did ya other team go lol?

I like the team, not sold on harry Taylor being a keeper, and ROberton just is a no from me. Maybe one of your fwd premos needs ti be sacrficed to get roberton to a premo back? Not sure who but? Swanny maybe?

Money Shot

Quote from: The_Captain on January 07, 2015, 11:56:49 AM
New Thread MS? Where did ya other team go lol?

I like the team, not sold on harry Taylor being a keeper, and ROberton just is a no from me. Maybe one of your fwd premos needs ti be sacrficed to get roberton to a premo back? Not sure who but? Swanny maybe?
Yeah I didn't think it really matterd whether or not I deleted it but Grazz has informed me that coaches prefer it if one coach sticks to single thread so I guess this one it is :P

Taylor I really like but I don't know how he will be used next year but think he will be playing less of a lock down role which is good for super coach. Roberton I really like but do you think Roberton to a rookie or someone sub 200k and then upgrading my top 3 defenders would be better?

cheers for your thoughts.

AaronKirk

Roberton is an out an out spud.

Too much risk in the ruck. especially as Mick still wants Kreuzer to play more forward and I can see Leuey doing the same thing.

Defence is very week with Newnes at D3, needs to be D4

Mids very strong but this compromises your ruck and defence.

Money Shot

Quote from: AaronKirk on January 08, 2015, 01:04:08 PM
Roberton is an out an out spud.

Too much risk in the ruck. especially as Mick still wants Kreuzer to play more forward and I can see Leuey doing the same thing.

Defence is very week with Newnes at D3, needs to be D4

Mids very strong but this compromises your ruck and defence.
Yeah I'm watching the rucks very closely and believe that the place to go cheap this year is in the rucks.
But I don't think I will start Roberton although I really want to.
Maybe downgrade Roberton to a rookie and then get 3 "premium" defenders?

Money Shot

Have done a slight change down back.
Although Whitex isn't likely to play round 1 if he is I think he is a lock and even if hes doesn't he can easily be changed to rookie or even changed to someone like Nathan Brown.

The_Captain

Quote from: Money Shot on January 08, 2015, 02:10:06 PM
Have done a slight change down back.
Although Whitex isn't likely to play round 1 if he is I think he is a lock and even if hes doesn't he can easily be changed to rookie or even changed to someone like Nathan Brown.

Looks a lot better now mate. If you think Harry will hve a new role this year, then go for it! But getting rid of roberton was good move. Just gotta make sure all the back rooks play and it will be a good side. Back rooks will be hard to find this year, so we may need to stack our backlines come round 1 with premos/mid pricers..

Money Shot

Quote from: The_Captain on January 08, 2015, 02:27:53 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 08, 2015, 02:10:06 PM
Have done a slight change down back.
Although Whitex isn't likely to play round 1 if he is I think he is a lock and even if hes doesn't he can easily be changed to rookie or even changed to someone like Nathan Brown.

Looks a lot better now mate. If you think Harry will hve a new role this year, then go for it! But getting rid of roberton was good move. Just gotta make sure all the back rooks play and it will be a good side. Back rooks will be hard to find this year, so we may need to stack our backlines come round 1 with premos/mid pricers..
Yeah I have thought about that I will probably just downgrade a forward maybe Franklin or Lides to a rookie and put Hogan on the field and then I will have 400k to spend on either backs or rucks.

But for now I am happy stacking my midfield and forward line as that's where the points are.

I believe both rucks can go 90+ and if they are playing in there right positions could be keepers although I am happy to upgrade if needed.

And I believe all 3 of Walker, Taylor and Newnes can become locks with Waters (if fit) being a chance too.

I hope that during the nab cup a few defensive rookies do pop up :-\

Money Shot

TEAM NAME: MS 2015
DEF: A. Walker, H. Taylor, J. Newnes, B. Waters, M. Dick, H. Goddard (D. Viojo-Ranibow, E. Vickers-willis)
MID: G. Ablett jnr, S. Pendlebury, N. Fyfe, J. Selwood, C. Ward, N. van Berlo, J. Laverde, N. Freeman (A. Neal-Bullen, J. Steele, K. Lambert)
RUC: N. Natnui, M. Kreuzer (T. Read)
FWD: B. Deledio, L. Franklin, D. Martin, D. Swan, T. Bellchambers, M. Clark (J. Hogan, N. Krakouer)
CASH LEFT: $22,000

Slightly different team.
Pretty much Whitex and Jones to basement price rookies.
Leuenberger to Nic Nat

Do we think 4 basement price rookies will be available round 1?

eg6914

backlines a bit weak, depending on rookies come round 1 it might pay off to downgrade a premium mid and upgrade dick to a premium defender (also frees up cash for non-basement rookies)

Money Shot

Quote from: eg6914 on January 08, 2015, 06:27:11 PM
backlines a bit weak, depending on rookies come round 1 it might pay off to downgrade a premium mid and upgrade dick to a premium defender (also frees up cash for non-basement rookies)
Bit weak how? As in no "premiums" or no depth? Even though it's a bit of both.

bmac25

Walker is a massive risk imo, goes missing too often (not unlike his other blues team mates Simpson, Gibbs, Kreuzer, etc). Think defence is a bit weak, not sure how many games Goddard and Dick will be playing..

Not convinced you should start with pendles as I don't see his price getting much higher.  Other than that, I like your mids.

As I mentioned before Kreuzer is also a massive risk but could pay off.  Think you should upgrade (maybe by slightly downgrading Pendles to Hannebery or even Prestia for a POD.

Like forward line other than Franklin is a mixed bag and I think T Mitchell has more upside than Swan.

Overall, pretty solid.  Only needs minor tweaking.

js19

Nice team!

As mentioned here, Walker is a ?. Has shown he can go big, but seems to suffer under Mick. If we can get starting rooks back there I think a weaker D is the way to go this year.

Considering Newnes as the breakout myself. Solid mids, and strong forwards

Money Shot

Quote from: bmac25 on January 08, 2015, 10:04:04 PM
Walker is a massive risk imo, goes missing too often (not unlike his other blues team mates Simpson, Gibbs, Kreuzer, etc). Think defence is a bit weak, not sure how many games Goddard and Dick will be playing..

Not convinced you should start with pendles as I don't see his price getting much higher.  Other than that, I like your mids.

As I mentioned before Kreuzer is also a massive risk but could pay off.  Think you should upgrade (maybe by slightly downgrading Pendles to Hannebery or even Prestia for a POD.

Like forward line other than Franklin is a mixed bag and I think T Mitchell has more upside than Swan.

Overall, pretty solid.  Only needs minor tweaking.

I agree with your statement on my defence and I think I will upgrade it (mainly top) so I have 3 "proven premiums" Waters and rookies.

Pendles is 120 each week surely you can't complain there.

Yeah rucks are very risky but then again you've got to go cheap some where.

Franklin is a gun and the teams he is versing up until his bye he destroys so should get off to a flyer.
Swan has proven he can go 110+ easily and Mitchell can't even get in the best 22 I think Swan has more upside.

Money Shot

Quote from: js19 on January 08, 2015, 11:35:28 PM
Nice team!

As mentioned here, Walker is a ?. Has shown he can go big, but seems to suffer under Mick. If we can get starting rooks back there I think a weaker D is the way to go this year.

Considering Newnes as the breakout myself. Solid mids, and strong forwards
Cheers mate.

Think I am happy with my mids/forwards and they are locks at the moment.

Tinkering with my rucks and defence is the hard part.

Feel going with Leuy and Kreuzer is the way to go. Can both go close to 100 constantly and are 350k there is so much value.
Hugh risk even huger reward in my opinion.