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Started by Money Shot, January 07, 2015, 09:47:36 AM

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Money Shot

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TEAM NAME: MS 2015
DEF: B. Smith, H. Shaw, M. Hibberd B. Waters, M. Dick, H. Goddard (D, Viojo-Rainobw, E. Vickers-Willis)
MID: G. Ablett jnr, S. Pendlebury, N. Fyfe, J. Selwood, C. Ward, N. van Berlo, J. Laverde, N. Freeman (A. Neal-Bullen, J. Steele, K. Lambert)
RUC: M. Kreuzer, M. Leuenberger (T. Read)
FWD: B. Deledio, L. Franklin, D. Martin, D. Swan, T. Bellchambers, M. Clark (J. Hogan, N. Krakouer)
CASH LEFT: $20,000

bye structure 9/10/11
Which is perfect 8)
I count 12 keepers with Waters, Kreuzer, Leuy and Belly all good chances as well.
Rucks are risks but I really think they are too good to pass up although I know the majority of coaches are against me.

Have found some money to turn Walker, Taylor, Newnes into Smith, Shaw and Hibberd which I think is about 20-30 points a week with a lot more consistency.

If I need money I will probably go Hibberd to Newnes as for all we know Newnes could out score Hibberd although I doubt it.

for now its come down to who would you rather:
Nic Nat, Walker, Taylor, Newnes
or
Leuy, Smith, Shaw, Hibberd

I really cant split the two groups point scoring wise but think option 2 is better as it iis more proven where as option one could be amazing but is almost too big a risk.

Keeper27

i really dont see the love for Smith TBH.
yes i know he's training with the midfield group, he did that last year too.
has a HUGE ceiling (which is GREAT  ;D)  but can go missing and that'll really sh!t you.
went under 80 (which should be the minimum for a $500K DEF) 8 times.
It's up to you, Personally i like the Shaw/Hibberd/Newnes combo. you have 2 consistent scorers and a real good chance at a breakout contender. You'd save 70k for other things

Money Shot

Quote from: Keeper27 on January 09, 2015, 09:11:54 AM
i really dont see the love for Smith TBH.
yes i know he's training with the midfield group, he did that last year too.
has a HUGE ceiling (which is GREAT  ;D)  but can go missing and that'll really sh!t you.
went under 80 (which should be the minimum for a $500K DEF) 8 times.
It's up to you, Personally i like the Shaw/Hibberd/Newnes combo. you have 2 consistent scorers and a real good chance at a breakout contender. You'd save 70k for other things
The defence is the only line I don't really like.
I think 3 'premium' players (players I believe can go 90+ with Waters and four rookies are the way to go (assuming there are 4 rookies available round one)
But picking the premiums are so hard.

If I was to downgrade Smith it would probably be to Walker purely for byes sake.

tor01doc

Hello MS,

I haven't been keeping up with this site as I am still spending the money I won last year - bought a sculpture!

One bit of advice is to acknowledge other people's advice but not necessarily change or post your team too often at this early stage.

My reasoning is that you'll do your (and others') head(s) in and things can change really quickly, especially with rookies.

The other thing to watch out for is the dreaded cookie cutter team.

Good luck.

Money Shot

Quote from: tor01doc on January 09, 2015, 09:53:04 AM
Hello MS,

I haven't been keeping up with this site as I am still spending the money I won last year - bought a sculpture!

One bit of advice is to acknowledge other people's advice but not necessarily change or post your team too often at this early stage.

My reasoning is that you'll do your (and others') head(s) in and things can change really quickly, especially with rookies.

The other thing to watch out for is the dreaded cookie cutter team.

Good luck.
Yeah I get what ya mean mate im just trying to find the best defence structure to sit on and im playing around with heaps of different strategies. I will take your advice though.

Im assuming by 'cookie cutter team' you mean a team that is the same as everyone elses?

tor01doc

Quote from: Money Shot on January 09, 2015, 10:10:28 AM
Quote from: tor01doc on January 09, 2015, 09:53:04 AM
Hello MS,

I haven't been keeping up with this site as I am still spending the money I won last year - bought a sculpture!

One bit of advice is to acknowledge other people's advice but not necessarily change or post your team too often at this early stage.

My reasoning is that you'll do your (and others') head(s) in and things can change really quickly, especially with rookies.

The other thing to watch out for is the dreaded cookie cutter team.

Good luck.
Yeah I get what ya mean mate im just trying to find the best defence structure to sit on and im playing around with heaps of different strategies. I will take your advice though.

Im assuming by 'cookie cutter team' you mean a team that is the same as everyone elses?

Yes regards cookie cutter.

Your ranking suggests you managed to select a few gems last year.

Let me know who your gems of '15 will be (by PM of course  ;))

I agree the defence this year looks really tricky.

What do you think about grabbing just a couple of keepers and then using more selections than usual as stepping stones to grab the guys who look the goods for '15 after a few rookies start to moo?

Monies saved can be used more wisely elsewhere?

Money Shot

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Quote from: tor01doc on January 09, 2015, 10:32:07 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 09, 2015, 10:10:28 AM
Quote from: tor01doc on January 09, 2015, 09:53:04 AM
Hello MS,

I haven't been keeping up with this site as I am still spending the money I won last year - bought a sculpture!

One bit of advice is to acknowledge other people's advice but not necessarily change or post your team too often at this early stage.

My reasoning is that you'll do your (and others') head(s) in and things can change really quickly, especially with rookies.

The other thing to watch out for is the dreaded cookie cutter team.

Good luck.
Yeah I get what ya mean mate im just trying to find the best defence structure to sit on and im playing around with heaps of different strategies. I will take your advice though.

Im assuming by 'cookie cutter team' you mean a team that is the same as everyone elses?

Yes regards cookie cutter.

Your ranking suggests you managed to select a few gems last year.

Let me know who your gems of '15 will be (by PM of course  ;))

I agree the defence this year looks really tricky.

What do you think about grabbing just a couple of keepers and then using more selections than usual as stepping stones to grab the guys who look the goods for '15 after a few rookies start to moo?

Monies saved can be used more wisely elsewhere?

haha only if you exchange your picks for the year ???

And yeah I have tried that and its allowed me to get Nic Nat in the rucks over Leuy which I think is great.
But if I was to go cheaper it would look something like

Walker, Taylor, Newnes, Waters the rookies and then Leuy to Nic Nat but im not sure if that will pay off.

what would you prefer?

Walker, Taylor (think he can go 90+), Newnes and Nic Nat
or
Smith, Shaw, Hibberd and Leunberger.

I cant really split the two as I see them averaging the same and think I will probably get 3 keepers from each.

tor01doc

I think the days of Goddard, Enright, McVeigh etc killing it down back are over for a while at least.

Your aim is to get at least 4 of the top 8 backs by year's end I reckon. Guys like Walker (Simpson?) and Taylor could be top 6 and therefore are probably safe sensible low risk selections. neither very sexy though.

Risking NicNat?

Rucks of Jacobs and Goldy look pretty damn nice.

Money Shot

Quote from: tor01doc on January 09, 2015, 10:44:24 AM
I think the days of Goddard, Enright, McVeigh etc killing it down back are over for a while at least.

Your aim is to get at least 4 of the top 8 backs by year's end I reckon. Guys like Walker (Simpson?) and Taylor could be top 6 and therefore are probably safe sensible low risk selections. neither very sexy though.

Risking NicNat?

Rucks of Jacobs and Goldy look pretty damn nice.

Well for now my mids and forwards are locked and unless I only have 2 premiums 2 mid pricers and 4 rookies I cant get strong enough cash for the likes of Goldy and Jacobs although they do look mighty fine.

but really see Nic Nat scoring just as well as them anyways.

GM

Hey MS ,
TD has some good points.
I feel coaches starting backlines will be different this year , more than most years.
Good pod potential there.
Ward will be a pod and maybe Fyfe to some extent initially.

Money Shot

Quote from: GM on January 09, 2015, 10:56:47 AM
Hey MS ,
TD has some good points.
I feel coaches starting backlines will be different this year , more than most years.
Good pod potential there.
Ward will be a pod and maybe Fyfe to some extent initially.
Yeah I don't see anyone agreeing on 'the perfect' picks or even structure down back all I know is that I am going weak.

Think im happy with the rest of my team so yeah its just going to be playing around with the backs.

Think im happy with the structure for now as I can always downgrade Smith, Shaw and Hibberd where as it would be a lot harder to downgrade Walker, Taylor and Newnes etc.

johnnytheboy1

Your only weakness is the ruck as you don't have a premium here to strengthen that area you would  need to downgrade a premium in the mids.
That is the only fault i find give it an 8/10

Money Shot

Quote from: johnnytheboy1 on January 09, 2015, 09:15:41 PM
Your only weakness is the ruck as you don't have a premium here to strengthen that area you would  need to downgrade a premium in the mids.
That is the only fault i find give it an 8/10
In my opinion both Leuy and Kreuzer are capable of being premiums.

tor01doc

Quote from: Money Shot on January 09, 2015, 10:07:15 PM
Quote from: johnnytheboy1 on January 09, 2015, 09:15:41 PM
Your only weakness is the ruck as you don't have a premium here to strengthen that area you would  need to downgrade a premium in the mids.
That is the only fault i find give it an 8/10
In my opinion both Leuy and Kreuzer are capable of being premiums.

IMHO if one becomes premium you're doing well. If both become premium, you're dreaming.

Money Shot

Quote from: tor01doc on January 09, 2015, 11:35:07 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 09, 2015, 10:07:15 PM
Quote from: johnnytheboy1 on January 09, 2015, 09:15:41 PM
Your only weakness is the ruck as you don't have a premium here to strengthen that area you would  need to downgrade a premium in the mids.
That is the only fault i find give it an 8/10
In my opinion both Leuy and Kreuzer are capable of being premiums.

IMHO if one becomes premium you're doing well. If both become premium, you're dreaming.

Yeah I'm happy with 85 points per week at 350k.
Obviously I doubt they will be premiums but are certainly capable of it