The Trading Rule ~ Does this change your team structure?

Started by essendon2, January 11, 2013, 04:04:25 PM

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Nieso FC

Kinda struggling to get my head around the best way to go.

Keep my Uber Premium mids which is in draft 1. or bring in Underpriced mids and when the fluctuation in price comes from both and the gap is near here nor there get the Ubers back.

Draft 1. Prior to trade news

B - God, Gibbs, Duff, Broughts, Goodes, Pittard - Colqs, Terlich
M - Swan, GAJ, Boyd, Cotch, Pendles, Wines, K.Mitchel, B.Crouch - Omeara, Viney
R - McEvoy, Lue - Gawn, Witts
F - SJ, Rock, Dusty, Knights, Stringer, Menzel - Staker, Lee

Draft 2. Post trade info

B - God, Gibbs, Duff, Brouts, Pittard, Goodes - Colqs, Terlich
M - Pendles, Redden, Murph, NDS, Fyfe, Mundy, Wines, Crouch - Omeara, Viney
R - Sandi, Lue - Gawn, Witts
F - SJ, Rock, N.Roo, Dusty, Stringer, Menzel - Staker, Lee

Changes -
Swan - Redden
GAJ - Murph
Boyd - NDS
Cotch - Mundy
K.Mitchel - Fyfe
McEvoy - Sandi
Knights - N.Roo

Doing my head in as I see an argument for both!

Any help would be greatly appreciated

essendon2

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Quote from: Nieso FC on January 12, 2013, 02:28:44 PM
Kinda struggling to get my head around the best way to go.

Keep my Uber Premium mids which is in draft 1. or bring in Underpriced mids and when the fluctuation in price comes from both and the gap is near here nor there get the Ubers back.

Draft 1. Prior to trade news

B - God, Gibbs, Duff, Broughts, Goodes, Pittard - Colqs, Terlich
M - Swan, GAJ, Boyd, Cotch, Pendles, Wines, K.Mitchel, B.Crouch - Omeara, Viney
R - McEvoy, Lue - Gawn, Witts
F - SJ, Rock, Dusty, Knights, Stringer, Menzel - Staker, Lee

Draft 2. Post trade info

B - God, Gibbs, Duff, Brouts, Pittard, Goodes - Colqs, Terlich
M - Pendles, Redden, Murph, NDS, Fyfe, Mundy, Wines, Crouch - Omeara, Viney
R - Sandi, Lue - Gawn, Witts
F - SJ, Rock, N.Roo, Dusty, Stringer, Menzel - Staker, Lee

Changes -
Swan - Redden
GAJ - Murph
Boyd - NDS
Cotch - Mundy
K.Mitchel - Fyfe
McEvoy - Sandi
Knights - N.Roo

Doing my head in as I see an argument for both!

Any help would be greatly appreciated
Swan (130) - Redden (115)
GAJ (125) - Murph (112)
Boyd (115) - NDS (105) (first 3 rounds I assume)
Cotch (116) - Mundy (105)
K.Mitchel (70) - Fyfe (103)
McEvoy (93) - Sandi (95)
Knights (80) - N.Roo (100) (first 3 rounds also)

729 vs 735

Yeah, love the changes, the only thing I'd maybe do is after Round 2, downgrade an Uber premium with a High BE --> a low BE rook, then after round 3, upgrade NDS --> Cotchin (or a hot-streak premium), just so you have one more reliable premium!

Nieso FC

Quote from: essendon2 on January 12, 2013, 02:38:38 PM
Quote from: Nieso FC on January 12, 2013, 02:28:44 PM
Kinda struggling to get my head around the best way to go.

Keep my Uber Premium mids which is in draft 1. or bring in Underpriced mids and when the fluctuation in price comes from both and the gap is near here nor there get the Ubers back.

Draft 1. Prior to trade news

B - God, Gibbs, Duff, Broughts, Goodes, Pittard - Colqs, Terlich
M - Swan, GAJ, Boyd, Cotch, Pendles, Wines, K.Mitchel, B.Crouch - Omeara, Viney
R - McEvoy, Lue - Gawn, Witts
F - SJ, Rock, Dusty, Knights, Stringer, Menzel - Staker, Lee

Draft 2. Post trade info

B - God, Gibbs, Duff, Brouts, Pittard, Goodes - Colqs, Terlich
M - Pendles, Redden, Murph, NDS, Fyfe, Mundy, Wines, Crouch - Omeara, Viney
R - Sandi, Lue - Gawn, Witts
F - SJ, Rock, N.Roo, Dusty, Stringer, Menzel - Staker, Lee

Changes -
Swan - Redden
GAJ - Murph
Boyd - NDS
Cotch - Mundy
K.Mitchel - Fyfe
McEvoy - Sandi
Knights - N.Roo

Doing my head in as I see an argument for both!

Any help would be greatly appreciated
Swan (130) - Redden (115)
GAJ (125) - Murph (112)
Boyd (115) - NDS (105) (first 3 rounds I assume)
Cotch (116) - Mundy (105)
K.Mitchel (70) - Fyfe (103)
McEvoy (93) - Sandi (95)
Knights (80) - N.Roo (100) (first 3 rounds also)

729 vs 735

Yeah, love the changes, the only thing I'd maybe do is after Round 2, downgrade an Uber premium with a High BE --> a low BE rook, then after round 3, upgrade NDS --> Cotchin (or a hot-streak premium), just so you have one more reliable premium!

I did a similar comparison and came up with similar figures which got me wondering if it was actually worth it.

Yes NDS and N.Roo are for their early draw and I will be looking to trade a premium with a high BE for a rook on the bubble.

Thx for responding.

stew42

Been fiddling around... for me this makes it less risky to select those who would do a Ebert-like breakout.

Before my mids were:
GAJ Pendles Redden Murphy Embley than rooks

Now it looks like
GAJ Pendles Jack NDS Hannebury rooks

Intriguing...

Andrew

Quote from: stew42 on January 12, 2013, 05:37:35 PM
Been fiddling around... for me this makes it less risky to select those who would do a Ebert-like breakout.

Before my mids were:
GAJ Pendles Redden Murphy Embley than rooks

Now it looks like
GAJ Pendles Jack NDS Hannebury rooks

Intriguing...


Yeah I want a Swans mid, but I'm not sure which one. Not sure on Hannebury's ability to go big. Kieran Jack is probably the pick of the bunch to go big v GWS, but Hannebury better value overall.

stew42

Quote from: Andrew on January 12, 2013, 05:46:19 PM
Quote from: stew42 on January 12, 2013, 05:37:35 PM
Been fiddling around... for me this makes it less risky to select those who would do a Ebert-like breakout.

Before my mids were:
GAJ Pendles Redden Murphy Embley than rooks

Now it looks like
GAJ Pendles Jack NDS Hannebury rooks

Intriguing...


Yeah I want a Swans mid, but I'm not sure which one. Not sure on Hannebury's ability to go big. Kieran Jack is probably the pick of the bunch to go big v GWS, but Hannebury better value overall.
I'm thinking I should give O'Keefe a go, simply because of his finals series...

Mr.Craig

Anyone would think you're a Swans supporter Stew. :P

stew42

Damn, here I was trying to make you guys think I was a Pies supporter...  ::)

Andrew

Quote from: stew42 on January 12, 2013, 05:49:12 PM
Quote from: Andrew on January 12, 2013, 05:46:19 PM
Quote from: stew42 on January 12, 2013, 05:37:35 PM
Been fiddling around... for me this makes it less risky to select those who would do a Ebert-like breakout.

Before my mids were:
GAJ Pendles Redden Murphy Embley than rooks

Now it looks like
GAJ Pendles Jack NDS Hannebury rooks

Intriguing...


Yeah I want a Swans mid, but I'm not sure which one. Not sure on Hannebury's ability to go big. Kieran Jack is probably the pick of the bunch to go big v GWS, but Hannebury better value overall.
I'm thinking I should give O'Keefe a go, simply because of his finals series...


He usually starts the season slow though, being a veteran. Maybe Hannebury is worth a punt anyway. Even with 2 trades a week, you can't trade everyone and Hannebury could be a breakout this year.

timmyparso

Why does everyone assume that the premium players will underperforming at the start of the season? They are priced high because they are guns. Expecting a price drop and a price rise from the "bargain" buys is very risky. If swan only averages 100 after 3 weeks it doesn't mean he''ll be priced at 100 at the first price change, and like wise for the guy who averages 100 when priced at 85. it takes a few more weeks for the price to meet the average, example zorko who took 12 weeks for his price  get close to matching his average. These 3 week trade plans will only gain you $20k (if successful that is)and won't help you upgrade that quickly. 

Focus in first 5 rounds should be on rookies (not premiums)as that is where the big money gains are.

Nieso FC

Quote from: timmyparso on January 12, 2013, 06:50:12 PM
Why does everyone assume that the premium players will underperforming at the start of the season? They are priced high because they are guns. Expecting a price drop and a price rise from the "bargain" buys is very risky. If swan only averages 100 after 3 weeks it doesn't mean he''ll be priced at 100 at the first price change, and like wise for the guy who averages 100 when priced at 85. it takes a few more weeks for the price to meet the average, example zorko who took 12 weeks for his price  get close to matching his average. These 3 week trade plans will only gain you $20k (if successful that is)and won't help you upgrade that quickly. 

Focus in first 5 rounds should be on rookies (not premiums)as that is where the big money gains are.

Might be a case of underpriced premiums rising quickly, players such as Murphy, Mundy, Fyfe, Redden should rise quite quickly IMO.

However amy strategy has some risk...2012 showed that nothing or no player should be taken for granted.