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Started by Cicjose, December 15, 2011, 03:43:54 PM

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ossie85

Quote from: Ziplock on December 22, 2011, 03:26:37 PM
35 000 in 1980 is the equivalent of nearly 100k according to this online calculator I just used os :P

I am talking about right now Zip.

ossie85

Rightio. $35,000

Let's say you lose a quarter in Tax. You will actually lose less than that.

Leaves you with: $26,250

Let's say you pay $200 a week in rent (which you should be able to do if you share with someone)

That leaves you with: $15,850

Which leaves you with a bit over $300 a week to spend on food, transport, bills, clothing, etc.

Easy? No. But comfortable enough.

Bluke

I would hardly call it comfortable.


ossie85

Quote from: Bluke on December 22, 2011, 04:10:46 PM
I would hardly call it comfortable.

Yeah, but why should it be?

Ziplock

why shouldn't it be? even rookie afl players are still in the top % of their field. In most areas, if you're in the top 1% of your specialisation area, you're going to be earning over 35k a year...

pyronerd

Quote from: Ziplock on December 22, 2011, 05:09:37 PM
why shouldn't it be? even rookie afl players are still in the top % of their field. In most areas, if you're in the top 1% of your specialisation area, you're going to be earning over 35k a year...
they aren't really, they are in the bottom % of professional football players

Ziplock

they're in the top % of football players though....

pyronerd

Quote from: Ziplock on December 22, 2011, 05:28:58 PM
they're in the top % of football players though....
so? the players that they are better than don't get paid to do it so it's irrelevant

Ziplock

yeah, they don't get paid to do it because they're not in the top %...?

pyronerd

Quote from: Ziplock on December 22, 2011, 05:32:16 PM
yeah, they don't get paid to do it because they're not in the top %...?
yes, meaning that the rookies are already getting paid for being in the top %

Ziplock

and I was saying 35k does seem too low for the top %


clearly the afl thought so as well, and so raised the wage :P

pyronerd

Quote from: Ziplock on December 22, 2011, 05:36:28 PM
and I was saying 35k does seem too low for the top %


clearly the afl thought so as well, and so raised the wage :P
being in the top % in sports just gets you paid at all, you have to be higher than the bottom % of the paid ones to get paid higher :-X


yes they weren't earning a lot, and I'm not saying they shouldn't get more, I was just saying that a players wage should be based on how good they are compared to other professionals, not how good they are compared to non-professionals

Ziplock

yeah, and earning like 5% of what the top afl players get doesn't really seem that fair :P

ossie85

Quote from: Ziplock on December 22, 2011, 06:02:56 PM
yeah, and earning like 5% of what the top afl players get doesn't really seem that fair :P

I earn about 1% of what Allan Joyce earns. So I think that point is irrelevant...


Not saying they shouldn't get more, but $35k was the minimum if they DIDN'T play any AFL games. So they are basically getting paid for VFL standard.

A lot of these guys 18-20. Other people have to do uni, tafe or apprenticeships before they get wages that high. That is fair enough if the market decides they are worth that much, but they shouldn't complain....

Footballers should be paid well. And they are. Highest paid sport in Australia... What will happen is that wage hikes could cause clubs to go under. If 1 club goes under, that's 40-50 players losing wages. So that's likely 40-50 players going from $50k to nothing, and a whole bunch of others getting pay decreases.

Has to be sensible.

Cicjose

Quote from: Bluke on December 21, 2011, 04:47:55 PM
Are you the most unpopular person on here Cicjose?

Also 35k is underpaid, especially with the astronomical costs of living in Australia.

unpopular would be an understatement Bluke