Money in bank = flexability

Started by pgvan, March 15, 2011, 11:32:17 PM

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pgvan

We should all know the con of having too much money in the bank at the start of the season - it adds up to costing you points on the pitch.

But alas at the start of each season no one knows who will be the rookies who go up in value (especially the ones who go up over the first 7 weeks.)

Last year I was one of the many who fell for the Relton Roberts trap (surely Nason is too small to play regular games this year...doh!) - Choosing a cheap 90k player who gets named first week but fails to play an effective amount of games can really hurt! With little money in the bank you can get stuck with a player like this, unable to sideways trade to another rook who is going up in price. This year more than any I think this will really hurt.

At the moment I have an extra rookie in the midfield (maybe conca or polec who I otherwise would not of chosen), giving me 300k my idea is that:

Best result: all go up and after 7-9 weeks I can complete 2 trades and reach solid midfield options who have dropped in price.

Worst result: one turns out dud and I can trade up to a player around 440k (nearly anyone)

A major benefit I see from this is that I can wait 4 weeks to assess and not have to 'pull the trigger' on a player who is on the bubble and may end up not playing anymore than 4 games - another potential of wasting trades. Also it gives me the ability to reach quality player who have a slow start to the year - Especially a quality player who has a bad game early on.

The big question is if this strategy in the long run will cost too many points? But if it saves trades is it worth it? Obviously it is not the optimum strategy I bet that even the winner this year will waste a couple of trades.......

On a side point - to somewhat buffer against having too much money in the bank initially I have chosen no more than 1 quality player from each team so I don't lose too much 'on pitch money' when there is a bye. Eg Having Pendle, swan and didak in round 11 would mean 1 200k in money off the pitch....


What do you think?

Scratchy

I find it annoying no one responds to posts, which are more than 3 lines like yours .
If you are happy with your team with 300k in the bank then do it!

I managed to pick the right rooks last year (except for not having Gumbleton over jPod at the start). If you aren't sure on your rooks (perhaps you're picking some riskier prospects like I. Smith, Irons, Curnow) then this strategy has more merit. Especially with the Suns bye in round 1 it seems smart to have some insurance if you're picking 6 or 7 Suns (maybe you're nervous about Prestia, Iles, Lock, Tape).

Personally, I have 5k left in the bank and I am almost happy with my team (unhappy with my 3rd ruck as Keefe unless he's pretty damn likely to play round 5 and 6 (Sandi and Cox byes).
Do what feels right to you, and don't be swayed by what everyone does!

Holz

300k s ok if your going for league, but it will almost certainly leave you out of running for the car. your argument of being stuck with a roberts is feasible but than you only need 20k-40k to fix that problem. personally i had 13k and i switched my team around and now have under 15k and im much happier with my team

pgvan

Yeah i think there is a lot to worry about this year regarding rookies:

GC - will they just get smashed Dream team wise? if this does happen rookies outside of Swallow, harris and maybe matera maybe too risky to rely on.

Sub rule:

If a rookie starts then by Q3 if there are no injuries I think they will be most likely to be dragged.

If a rookie is a sub may only play 1/3 of the game max and I don't see a rookie's points per minute going up even if they are fresher than everyone else on the pitch.

At the moment I only have 1 starting rook in the forward line, none in the back and 4 of 7 to play from (Polec, Hibberd, irons, swallow, harris, caddy, conca). I just feel that this is a less risky option than starting rookies elsewhere.....

I'd agree i'm not in the car race but i'm in a fairly good league (top 100 or so) and hence I'm going Sandi nd mummy in the ruck (then I don't have to care about back up too much - funnily I haven't seen anyone talk about this option around the place...) (Freo and Syd have both byes in no league match rounds...)

CFC 1979

solid theory. money in the bank is exactly that.  ;)

no money in the bank is also exactly that  :'(

it's a game of risk and thats the beauty of it. Go with you strategy and see how it pans out.

It's a looooooooooooooooooooong season

glam77

As i see it...

money in bank + cash cow = 1 trade to upgrade
no money in bank + cash cow + cash cow = 2 trades to upgrade

so i see it as a slight advantage to leave a little bit in the bank.

Happy_dude

im not to sure about this theory now, but we now have 2 very solid rookies picks in Callinan and Mzunga for downgrades options when/if they make there way back into the team. If you have already chosen the right rookies then you should be able to net yourself around 100-200k which then correlates straight into other upgrades around the ground. Im going with starting with the strongest team i can.

Personal opinion this theory would be good if going for the league win probably not for the car, but in my experience if your going for the car then 9 time out of 10 you will go close to winning your league.

MissPiesFF

My theory, use as much cash as you can early, wait for your cows to play three games then watch the money roll in for trades when needed.

glam77

without realizing i actually ended up with $80kremaining in the bank.
still managed to score approx 2150 and in top 5000 ranks.

i'm sure this will come in very useful.

CronullaGymJunkies

Quote from: MissPiesFF on March 30, 2011, 03:56:43 AM
My theory, use as much cash as you can early, wait for your cows to play three games then watch the money roll in for trades when needed.

Yeah I agree. Put as much money onto the field to score maximum points in the first few rounds.
If you pick the right rooks from the start you shouldn't need any coin in the bank.
Just remember that for every $4000 or so you have in the bank, that's a DT point not earned.

MissPiesFF

Quote from: glam77 on March 30, 2011, 09:24:42 AM
without realizing i actually ended up with $80kremaining in the bank.
still managed to score approx 2150 and in top 5000 ranks.

i'm sure this will come in very useful.
That is definately worth gloating about. Well done Glam

Ace Manuva

An update on how it's going pgvan?

I think 300K is perfectly fine. For the reasons you listed (trades, easy upgrades) and your team will be better for it cos with 1 more cow it'll be worth more overall later.

I started off with 600K in the bank. After round 2 I thought screw it, Mitch Morton to Tapscott and Josh P Kennedy to Curnow.  $1.1M in bank, and my team is surely better for it. 2046 last round.

Andrew

Quote from: glam77 on March 23, 2011, 12:58:52 PM
As i see it...

money in bank + cash cow = 1 trade to upgrade
no money in bank + cash cow + cash cow = 2 trades to upgrade

so i see it as a slight advantage to leave a little bit in the bank.

100% agree. Furthermore, when you're not forced to downgrade to raise cash, you're far more likely in getting a cash cow you actually want. I've currently got $323k in the bank and 19 trades, after starting with 165k in the bank. With Chappy & Pendles still to get I still don't feel it's enough.